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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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RandySF

(61,332 posts)
1. No thank you
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:10 PM
Mar 2019

She is one of the three I have ruled out voting for in these primaries.

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at140

(6,110 posts)
2. I watched it
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:17 PM
Mar 2019

Tulsi came across as right center to me. She needs to make a hard left turn to have a chance. I will admit she is a good looking woman.

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Autumn

(45,145 posts)
7. Very much center right. I respect her military service and her anti war stand.
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:30 PM
Mar 2019
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at140

(6,110 posts)
10. I respect her anti-war stand as well
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 01:07 AM
Mar 2019

LBJ started Vietnam war (actually he expanded the war started by JFK)
Bush-41 started Kuwait war
Bush-43 started Afghan and Iraq wars
Obama started Libya war
Trump will start Iran war

So in that respect Tulsi's do-not-start-foreign-wars is to be commended.
But is she progressive enough on social issues? I do not know!

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brush

(54,479 posts)
3. She goes on FOX, which never saw a repug-started war it doesn't like...
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:18 PM
Mar 2019

and delcares that both sides in DC favor regime-changing wars. Obama started no war yet she's been on FOX may times bashing him.

If she's a Democrat why isn't she criticizing the orange imposter in the WH?

Is she a mole?

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JustAnotherGen

(32,292 posts)
4. That's what doesn't sit right with me
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:28 PM
Mar 2019

She and Starbucks guys have a lot of nasty things to say about my party - but struggle to even turn their nose up at the GOP.

It's not just 45 - It's all of those of a certain ilk that voted for that thing.

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pnwmom

(109,056 posts)
12. She went to the Trump Tower to chat with Trump within days of his election.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 01:22 AM
Mar 2019

And the R's seem to love her.

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Yosemito

(648 posts)
8. Tucker supported the Iraq war
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 10:03 PM
Mar 2019

Now he pretends to be a pacifist.

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Cha

(299,118 posts)
5. Gabbard on President Obama and putin..
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 09:28 PM
Mar 2019
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Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
9. Thanks for the link Yosemito!
Sat Mar 2, 2019, 11:00 PM
Mar 2019

I wish youtube had a feature to autoblock Carlson's voice and smug face but it is what it is. Rep. Gabbard's blunt and unapologetic anti-interventionist message is one I support.

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pnwmom

(109,056 posts)
11. She's an anti-interventionist who has no problem with dictators and murderers like Assad.
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 01:20 AM
Mar 2019

She finally decided to support LGBT issues in 2014 but in 2015 said she hadn't changed her personal position on marriage equality.

There's a reason Rethugs like Steven Bannon and Carlson are promoting her. No thanks..

https://www.thenation.com/article/tulsi-gabbard-president-foreign-islam/

Tulsi Gabbard’s Deceptive Foreign Policy
The Hawaii congresswoman’s anti-interventionism masks an affinity for authoritarians, nationalists, and Islamophobes.

On January 11, Tulsi Gabbard, a four-term Democratic representative from Hawaii, announced she was running for president in 2020. Gabbard’s candidacy is already tainted by her youthful history of homophobia, but her decision to focus on “the issue of war and peace” at a time when the party’s biggest guns are aimed at domestic problems sets her apart in a crowded field.

Gabbard’s heterodox views and military service could yet animate a significant number of voters and shift the debate, but not for the better: Taken together, Gabbard’s positions represent almost everything a left foreign policy should avoid.

In the long shadow of the Iraq War, Gabbard’s vocal opposition to US-led regime change in the Middle East has made her appealing to skeptics of the foreign-policy establishment’s “unquestioning fidelity” to military intervention. In their view, Gabbard is a lonely voice, one of the only politicians to learn the lessons of Iraq, Libya, and Syria: that removing dictators costs American lives and taxpayer dollars, devastates the people of those countries, and spawns humanitarian crises. Writing in The Nation in 2016, Gabbard said that she wanted “to give voice to the millions of Americans, including my fellow veterans, who desperately want to end our country’s illegal, counterproductive war to overthrow the Syrian government,” which risked allowing “ISIS, Al Qaeda, and other terrorist groups…to take over all of Syria.”


Yet it would be a mistake to place Gabbard in the lineage of internationalist, anti-war American leftism that seeks, among other things, to help emancipate and defend the oppressed. In fact, Gabbard’s public record points in a much different direction, toward an “America first” Trumpism of the left that would restore the Middle East’s dictators club as long as it benefits the United States. On closer analysis, hers is a foreign policy that favors authoritarianism cloaked as counter-terrorism, nationalism cloaked as anti-interventionism, and Islamophobia barely cloaked at all.

SNIP

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Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
13. Plenty of examples exist of historical and current bi-partisan support for dictator and murderers...
Sun Mar 3, 2019, 01:54 AM
Mar 2019

... by US politicians and government agencies. Singling out Rep. Gabbard for the Assad meeting is disingenuous and engaging in selective outrage in my opinion. This will probably be one of those agree to disagree moments and I appreciate the response pwnmom.

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