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RandySF

(57,166 posts)
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:31 PM May 2019

Justice Democrats take Biden quote out of context in attempted hit





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This clip is from a November 2007 town hall in Iowa. The question was whether "the pervasiveness of special interest groups" bother Biden; he says they do, hence this irony-drenched answer. 1/2
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Justice Democrats take Biden quote out of context in attempted hit (Original Post) RandySF May 2019 OP
Further marginalizing themselves with ham handed attacks. BannonsLiver May 2019 #1
How is that out of context? Merlot May 2019 #2
To make it sound like Biden was soliciting donations. RandySF May 2019 #3
I posted the link to the entire meeting, almost two hours, from where those 30 seconds were lifted.. George II May 2019 #8
Right! Nuggets May 2019 #29
For one thing, it's from 2007, twelve years ago, and it's only 30 seconds of a long talk. George II May 2019 #4
But, just imagine if Bernie had said this... we'd never hear the end of it!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #27
Wouldn't it be nice if they presented everything he said before and after those 30 seconds, or.... George II May 2019 #5
Here's the ENTIRE town hall, the entire hour and 51 minute event. This takes place at about.... George II May 2019 #6
Does he support overturning citizens united? TheFarseer May 2019 #9
That video has nothing to do with Citizens United, in fact it's from 3 years before the CU decision. George II May 2019 #11
Lol TheFarseer May 2019 #16
Lol George II May 2019 #18
Wow TheFarseer May 2019 #19
I wouldn't say that makes me better than you, but I did watch the video before I commented on it.... George II May 2019 #20
Ok now i watched it TheFarseer May 2019 #26
How would he do that, three years before the CU decision? MineralMan May 2019 #12
I'm sorry I'm not where I can watch the video TheFarseer May 2019 #15
Yes. He has advocated public financing for campaigns. MineralMan May 2019 #17
I do not remember him talking about that TheFarseer May 2019 #25
Yes. Biden has supported public financing of elections since he became a senator. Drunken Irishman May 2019 #14
Biden specifically calls for public financing in the full video, just after the JD's misleading clip W_HAMILTON May 2019 #22
Their desperation is showing LibFarmer May 2019 #7
I have the greatest level of contempt for ANYONE associated with "Justice Democrats" NurseJackie May 2019 #10
Well Nuggets May 2019 #31
To Justice Democrats: How's Trump Working out For You? MineralMan May 2019 #13
Their supporters should be more offended by it Hav May 2019 #21
Of course.. hoodwinking Cha May 2019 #23
Ugh, I imagine them combing through hundreds of hours of Biden material searching for betsuni May 2019 #24
They are not helping their candidate by tactics of this sort still_one May 2019 #28
No "justice" dems are NOT.. Cha May 2019 #33
no dbout about it still_one May 2019 #34
The shennigans begin. Oh well, Joe has seen it all before, he can handle it Baclava May 2019 #30
From the James O'Keefe School of Yellow Journalism NBachers May 2019 #32
... Scurrilous May 2019 #35
There is Biden 2008 sign. Eric J in MN May 2019 #36
He was answering a question about campaign finance reform RandySF May 2019 #37
In a technical sense, ActBlue is a "bundler". George II May 2019 #38
 

BannonsLiver

(16,133 posts)
1. Further marginalizing themselves with ham handed attacks.
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:33 PM
May 2019

As poorly thought out as some of their policy ideas.

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Merlot

(9,693 posts)
2. How is that out of context?
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:41 PM
May 2019

Sounds like Biden speaking the truth.

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RandySF

(57,166 posts)
3. To make it sound like Biden was soliciting donations.
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:42 PM
May 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
8. I posted the link to the entire meeting, almost two hours, from where those 30 seconds were lifted..
Sat May 11, 2019, 03:05 PM
May 2019

Last edited Sat May 11, 2019, 03:58 PM - Edit history (1)

...this is as disgusting as snipping a short segment out of that video of Chelsea Clinton a month or two ago.

Do they think that garbage like this is going to win them allies?

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Nuggets

(525 posts)
29. Right!
Sat May 11, 2019, 09:34 PM
May 2019

This is no different than Karl Rove’s tactics, Breitbart, or OANN etc.


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George II

(67,782 posts)
4. For one thing, it's from 2007, twelve years ago, and it's only 30 seconds of a long talk.
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:47 PM
May 2019
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,103 posts)
27. But, just imagine if Bernie had said this... we'd never hear the end of it!!
Sat May 11, 2019, 09:06 PM
May 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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George II

(67,782 posts)
5. Wouldn't it be nice if they presented everything he said before and after those 30 seconds, or....
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:50 PM
May 2019

...better yet what he's saying NOW, 12 years after that short 30-second clip.

But that's not JD's MO.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Here's the ENTIRE town hall, the entire hour and 51 minute event. This takes place at about....
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:53 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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TheFarseer

(9,308 posts)
9. Does he support overturning citizens united?
Sat May 11, 2019, 03:08 PM
May 2019

Does he support public financing of elections? That’s what JD support.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. That video has nothing to do with Citizens United, in fact it's from 3 years before the CU decision.
Sat May 11, 2019, 03:15 PM
May 2019
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TheFarseer

(9,308 posts)
16. Lol
Sat May 11, 2019, 03:31 PM
May 2019

You’re the one that said 12 years ago doesn’t matter! I want to know his stance now. Isn’t that a fair question?

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TheFarseer

(9,308 posts)
19. Wow
Sat May 11, 2019, 04:25 PM
May 2019

You used a gif too so I guess that makes you better than me

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George II

(67,782 posts)
20. I wouldn't say that makes me better than you, but I did watch the video before I commented on it....
Sat May 11, 2019, 04:40 PM
May 2019

....which you admitted you didn't.

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TheFarseer

(9,308 posts)
26. Ok now i watched it
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:56 PM
May 2019

It says exactly what was in the text below. So its not that different watching and not watching. Anyway, we have the exact same position on this issue so maybe there's no need to fight about it..

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MineralMan

(146,116 posts)
12. How would he do that, three years before the CU decision?
Sat May 11, 2019, 03:21 PM
May 2019

History. It happened. Learn about it.

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TheFarseer

(9,308 posts)
15. I'm sorry I'm not where I can watch the video
Sat May 11, 2019, 03:27 PM
May 2019

I’m just responding to the question of money in politics in general. Does he support getting money out or not? I’m not super familiar with his stance.

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MineralMan

(146,116 posts)
17. Yes. He has advocated public financing for campaigns.
Sat May 11, 2019, 03:31 PM
May 2019

You've been on DU for 15 years. Surely you've seen some stuff about Joe Biden posted here. He's not some mysterious character who just crawled out of the woodwork. Remember? He was Obama's VP for eight of those 15 years. You must have learned something about him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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TheFarseer

(9,308 posts)
25. I do not remember him talking about that
Sat May 11, 2019, 08:51 PM
May 2019

But i googled it and he HAS been an advocate for public financing so I've got to give him props for that!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
14. Yes. Biden has supported public financing of elections since he became a senator.
Sat May 11, 2019, 03:27 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

W_HAMILTON

(7,778 posts)
22. Biden specifically calls for public financing in the full video, just after the JD's misleading clip
Sat May 11, 2019, 05:03 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LibFarmer

(772 posts)
7. Their desperation is showing
Sat May 11, 2019, 02:58 PM
May 2019

it worked in 2016 and painted Hillary as corrupt even though no one ever answered her challenge of "show me one piece of legislation or one policy proposal that is tied to a donation."

They are doing so again and we know who they are trying to benefit. That candidate will never have my vote and he will never win the primaries.

I just hope these stupid tactics don't give ammo to the republicans during GE.

Trump used Sanders' attacks on Hillary to win Ohio, PA, WI and MI -- perhaps THAT is the goal of Justice Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
10. I have the greatest level of contempt for ANYONE associated with "Justice Democrats"
Sat May 11, 2019, 03:10 PM
May 2019

I have the greatest level of contempt for ANYONE associated with "Justice Democrats". They're as dishonest and deceptive as the day is long. Their agenda is to destroy the Democratic party so that they can "rebuild" it... it's all very Uyguresque and Sarandonesque in its approach to what they want to accomplish.

If they REALLY want to make a difference, why don't they spend their time trying to destroy the GOP? Instead, they seem to be obsessed with denigrating and dividing Democrats, they want to create distrust and resentment... and sadly, all those things only serve to weaken the Democratic party. And, a weakened and divided Democratic party only benefits Trump, and the GOP, and Russia.

It's that kind of negativity that generates apathy. Apathy discourages voter turnout. Low voter turnout gives Republicans a chance to steal the elections.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nuggets

(525 posts)
31. Well
Sat May 11, 2019, 09:44 PM
May 2019
If they REALLY want to make a difference, why don't they spend their time trying to destroy the GOP? Instead, they seem to be obsessed with denigrating and dividing Democrats, they want to create distrust and resentment... and sadly, all those things only serve to weaken the Democratic party. And, a weakened and divided Democratic party only benefits Trump, and the GOP, and Russia.



It might make people question their intentions.

Dirty politics come from shady people.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,116 posts)
13. To Justice Democrats: How's Trump Working out For You?
Sat May 11, 2019, 03:22 PM
May 2019

Think about it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Hav

(5,969 posts)
21. Their supporters should be more offended by it
Sat May 11, 2019, 04:40 PM
May 2019

They are willfully presenting out of context attacks because they believe they can manipulate their followers. Their fans should be offended for being seen as gullible and naive. But it seems to be working. People are lazy and love to see reinforcements for their biases. But to believe that a politician would say he's for sale is so laughable, I can only feel sorry for those who cannot see that are played like fools by a ratfucking propaganda outfit.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(295,524 posts)
23. Of course.. hoodwinking
Sat May 11, 2019, 07:12 PM
May 2019

and divisive bullshit is what they do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,061 posts)
24. Ugh, I imagine them combing through hundreds of hours of Biden material searching for
Sat May 11, 2019, 07:29 PM
May 2019

tidbits to take out of context: doing Republicans work for them with the goal of making us cynical and angry at Democrats so we won't vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(91,807 posts)
28. They are not helping their candidate by tactics of this sort
Sat May 11, 2019, 09:10 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(91,807 posts)
34. no dbout about it
Sun May 12, 2019, 12:16 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
30. The shennigans begin. Oh well, Joe has seen it all before, he can handle it
Sat May 11, 2019, 09:41 PM
May 2019

Brush them off Joe, they are nothing

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NBachers

(16,964 posts)
32. From the James O'Keefe School of Yellow Journalism
Sat May 11, 2019, 11:19 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
36. There is Biden 2008 sign.
Sun May 12, 2019, 05:11 AM
May 2019

Nobody was trying to trick anyone into thinking Biden said this in 2019.

The point is that Biden said he’d give bundlers special access in 2007 and now he has bundlers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RandySF

(57,166 posts)
37. He was answering a question about campaign finance reform
Sun May 12, 2019, 06:19 PM
May 2019

and 30 seconds were used to make it look like he endorsed the current system.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
38. In a technical sense, ActBlue is a "bundler".
Mon May 13, 2019, 10:32 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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