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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
Mon May 13, 2019, 04:55 PM May 2019

Disclosure: I'm from Scranton

Biden is a decent man. As honest as most politicians. He's made some mistakes in the past and will trip over his tongue from time to time. He'd make a decent president. But, am I the only one who remembers his promise not to ever run for the presidency when he accepted the VP nomination ? This will bite him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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Disclosure: I'm from Scranton (Original Post) rickford66 May 2019 OP
Yes, I am sure this will bite him very hard. RelativelyJones May 2019 #1
LOL still_one May 2019 #11
Does it really matter? Biden sees we need to get rid of Trump. I forgive him. zackymilly May 2019 #2
Oh, please... Have we EVER held a promise not to run for future office against ANY politico? Ever? hlthe2b May 2019 #3
At the time it was "THE" condition for the VP nomination. rickford66 May 2019 #4
I think that is just fantastical. No one cares. It isn't like some of the others who promised hlthe2b May 2019 #7
I don't remember that. Why would he promise that? Honeycombe8 May 2019 #5
Ask him. rickford66 May 2019 #13
I googled that and don't find a promise like that. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #16
Somebody else will remember also. I didn't make it up. rickford66 May 2019 #18
You made the accusation.. we Cha May 2019 #30
No, no; you made a very specific claim. Please post proof. LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #22
I'm pretty sure the Trump presidency makes that statement mute. dem4decades May 2019 #6
That might work. rickford66 May 2019 #14
You wish. LakeArenal May 2019 #8
Do you think he can win Pennsylvania? njhoneybadger May 2019 #9
Ridiculous. redstateblues May 2019 #10
How many Senators or Representatives or even Governors have pledged to serve out.... George II May 2019 #12
He didn't pledge to serve out. He swore to NEVER run for president. rickford66 May 2019 #15
No it won't Butterflylady May 2019 #17
I cannot find that anywhere; please post a link LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #19
Yes, you are/were probably the only one who remembered that. I don't. ecstatic May 2019 #20
I did find this. rickford66 May 2019 #23
So what? You said he "swore" he would never run for President if Obama made him VP LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #26
I think he probably believed it at the time, but people have basically begged him ecstatic May 2019 #27
And --- he didn't run in 2016. northoftheborder May 2019 #28
his stance on china will hurt the most were its needed most. Kurt V. May 2019 #21
In 2004 he had the right position on Iraq. rickford66 May 2019 #24
No, it won't mcar May 2019 #25
When bizarre meets absurd LibFarmer May 2019 #29
Link? NT WeekiWater May 2019 #31
we r screwn !!!$#%!! BootinUp May 2019 #32
America needs Joe so he changed his mind. honest.abe May 2019 #33
We need Joe to be President more than he needs to be President - he has answered the call... Skya Rhen May 2019 #34
I don't remember and it will matter very little if true, IMO. n/t cynatnite May 2019 #35
Yes you are,..and no it won't. Demsrule86 May 2019 #36
 

RelativelyJones

(898 posts)
1. Yes, I am sure this will bite him very hard.
Mon May 13, 2019, 04:58 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
2. Does it really matter? Biden sees we need to get rid of Trump. I forgive him.
Mon May 13, 2019, 04:59 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(102,230 posts)
3. Oh, please... Have we EVER held a promise not to run for future office against ANY politico? Ever?
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:00 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
4. At the time it was "THE" condition for the VP nomination.
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:03 PM
May 2019

A big promise to break. He'll need some real twisted explanation. I'll vote for him if he gets the nod.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

hlthe2b

(102,230 posts)
7. I think that is just fantastical. No one cares. It isn't like some of the others who promised
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:06 PM
May 2019

to fulfill their full current term and then immediately announced--like Gillibrand as but one example. Biden isn't in office, he's not leaving an office and he owes no one anything on that regard.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
5. I don't remember that. Why would he promise that?
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:04 PM
May 2019

What would be the point?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
16. I googled that and don't find a promise like that.
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:21 PM
May 2019

So....????

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
18. Somebody else will remember also. I didn't make it up.
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:23 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,154 posts)
30. You made the accusation.. we
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:51 PM
May 2019

would like a link, please.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
22. No, no; you made a very specific claim. Please post proof.
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:37 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dem4decades

(11,282 posts)
6. I'm pretty sure the Trump presidency makes that statement mute.
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:05 PM
May 2019

If he were to say, i never thought the day would come that i would be needed to step up for my country. But that day has come.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
9. Do you think he can win Pennsylvania?
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:07 PM
May 2019

Or any other candidates

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
12. How many Senators or Representatives or even Governors have pledged to serve out....
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:13 PM
May 2019

...their entire term have gone on to run for higher office? Gillibrand did, Warren did, and others, too (those are the only two names that come to mind)

At least Biden isn't in the midst of an elected term like some of the others. Aside from that, I don't recall Biden promising to not run for President.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
15. He didn't pledge to serve out. He swore to NEVER run for president.
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:16 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Butterflylady

(3,543 posts)
17. No it won't
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:21 PM
May 2019

People change their minds everyday and it's not against the law. So glad he did.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
19. I cannot find that anywhere; please post a link
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:30 PM
May 2019

I can recall Obama asking Biden to drop out in 2016 to give Clinton her shot, but that's all.

I think your memory is playing tricks on you, so if you have proof, please post it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ecstatic

(32,687 posts)
20. Yes, you are/were probably the only one who remembered that. I don't.
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:31 PM
May 2019

When and why did he say that?

If I were to vote in a presidential
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rickford66

(5,523 posts)
23. I did find this.
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:39 PM
May 2019

At times in his career, he succeeded in suppressing the urge. In 2008, Obama’s advisers favored Biden for Vice-President in part because they assumed that Biden’s age—he will be seventy-four on Inauguration Day, 2017—would prevent the classic White House intrigue: a No. 2 angling and strategizing around his own desire to be No. 1. Biden gave them reason to believe that; during the 2008 campaign, he told Newsweek that he had said to Obama, “I’m sixty-five, and you’re not going to have to worry about my positioning myself to be president.” (Some in Biden’s closest circle didn’t believe that for a second. One of his longtime friends and aides told me last year, “For six years, I’ve been saying, if you don’t believe that Joe Biden intends to run in 2016, you don’t know Joe Biden.”)

The bold quote is what the public knew and he must have said it more than once.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/why-biden-didnt-run

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LongtimeAZDem

(4,494 posts)
26. So what? You said he "swore" he would never run for President if Obama made him VP
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:43 PM
May 2019

This isn't even close to the same thing.

Unless you have a citation for your claim, you should delete your OP.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ecstatic

(32,687 posts)
27. I think he probably believed it at the time, but people have basically begged him
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:44 PM
May 2019

to run, despite his age, and now he's open to being president if the voters think it's OK. Personally, I agree with his previous view and would prefer someone younger--only because of how physically and mentally demanding the presidency is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
28. And --- he didn't run in 2016.
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:44 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
21. his stance on china will hurt the most were its needed most.
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:36 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
24. In 2004 he had the right position on Iraq.
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:41 PM
May 2019

I would have voted for him then also.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mcar

(42,302 posts)
25. No, it won't
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:42 PM
May 2019

I was raised in Scranton.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LibFarmer

(772 posts)
29. When bizarre meets absurd
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:48 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
33. America needs Joe so he changed his mind.
Mon May 13, 2019, 05:57 PM
May 2019

How's that?

BTW, I dont even recall him saying that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
34. We need Joe to be President more than he needs to be President - he has answered the call...
Mon May 13, 2019, 06:10 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
35. I don't remember and it will matter very little if true, IMO. n/t
Mon May 13, 2019, 06:19 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
36. Yes you are,..and no it won't.
Mon May 13, 2019, 08:57 PM
May 2019

won't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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