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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:18 PM May 2019

Poll: Biden's support INCREASES with age of voter. Sanders's support DECREASES with age of voter.

The bar graphs are on page 6.

Biden's support ranges from 24% with the youngest voters (under 29) to 52% the oldest (65+).

Sanders's support ranges from 33% with the youngest to 9% with the oldest.

Biden and Sanders are the only listed candidates whose support strongly correlates with age. For example, Harris draws 8-9% support from ALL age groups.

However, Sanders's support with the youngest (under 29) has dropped significantly -- from 45% in March to 33% now.

https://morningconsult.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Political-Intelligence-5.13.19.pdf

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Poll: Biden's support INCREASES with age of voter. Sanders's support DECREASES with age of voter. (Original Post) pnwmom May 2019 OP
They'd make a fine ticket. Both are good men. I like all of our choices more than their choices. Princetonian May 2019 #1
Sorry DownriverDem May 2019 #2
Especially two white men over the age of 75. Geez. n/t pnwmom May 2019 #3
Not two white men DownriverDem May 2019 #8
Let's be real here. A fine ticket is any ticket that beats Trump. Auggie May 2019 #5
I'll be real DownriverDem May 2019 #7
So says your crystal ball ... Auggie May 2019 #16
Agree! True Blue American May 2019 #13
I tend to agree with you there... besides, I don't think Joe would accept the VP slot again... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #29
We need real Democrats. And a ticket that is diverse. we can do it May 2019 #4
In no world anywhere, will Biden and Sanders be running mates. cwydro May 2019 #10
I highly doubt Bernie, when he wins, would even consider offering Joe the VP slot given the optics. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #30
Two men who would turn 80 in office do not make a viable ticket tymorial May 2019 #27
What I've been saying DownriverDem May 2019 #6
Harris/Inslee would also be a great ticket. Or Warren/Castro. I'm waiting for the debates pnwmom May 2019 #9
The older you are the more likely you are to vote. DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #11
True! True Blue American May 2019 #24
Threaten Medicare and you're bound to lose senior support. nt Kahuna7 May 2019 #12
Reminds me of the day after Obama was elected for his first term. enough May 2019 #15
Bernie has never tried to target seniors. He has always centered millennials... Kahuna7 May 2019 #17
And other polls show him losing this support. Demsrule86 May 2019 #18
Buttigieg is a more appealing candidate but what is interesting is that Buttigieg doesn't even JI7 May 2019 #21
I thing Buttigieg is smart but I don't think he can win in a homophobic country Demsrule86 May 2019 #26
This poll shows Bernie's support among young people having dropped significantly since March. n/t pnwmom May 2019 #22
I saw that...relieved. NT Demsrule86 May 2019 #25
That's Sanders' weak point right now qazplm135 May 2019 #14
So what? BannonsLiver May 2019 #19
Older voters vote. nt Blue_true May 2019 #20
Not good for Bernie given that the older folks are much more reliable voters. comradebillyboy May 2019 #23
Seems understandable Raven123 May 2019 #28
If Bernie loses support among youth, what's left? Gothmog May 2019 #31
 

Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
1. They'd make a fine ticket. Both are good men. I like all of our choices more than their choices.
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:21 PM
May 2019

Looking forward to getting out the vote in Philadelphia...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
2. Sorry
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:23 PM
May 2019

Two white men are not a fine ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
3. Especially two white men over the age of 75. Geez. n/t
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:25 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
8. Not two white men
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:27 PM
May 2019

Biden/Harris would be much better.

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Auggie

(31,167 posts)
5. Let's be real here. A fine ticket is any ticket that beats Trump.
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:25 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
7. I'll be real
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:27 PM
May 2019

Two white men running is not a winning ticket. Biden/Harris is a winning ticket.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Auggie

(31,167 posts)
16. So says your crystal ball ...
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:03 PM
May 2019

Look, I'd really hope a Biden/Harris ticket would capture the imagination that eluded so many protest voters last election. It probably would. But there's no guarantee Biden gets the nomination, or that Harris would accept a VP bid.

This is such cart before the horse stuff.

"Two white men:" doesn't that border on gender bias? Especially since one would have no idea who the other "white" man would be (and let's assume it wouldn't be Sanders)?



If I were to vote in a presidential
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True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
13. Agree!
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:56 PM
May 2019

Especially, not 2 older white men. There has to be a balance. Obama/ Biden?

Fresh new face/ experience. This time the opposite. Experience/ fresh.

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
29. I tend to agree with you there... besides, I don't think Joe would accept the VP slot again...
Wed May 15, 2019, 06:57 AM
May 2019

even if Bernie were to offer it once he wins the nomination.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

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Undecided
 

we can do it

(12,184 posts)
4. We need real Democrats. And a ticket that is diverse.
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:25 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
10. In no world anywhere, will Biden and Sanders be running mates.
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:49 PM
May 2019

No way, no how.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
30. I highly doubt Bernie, when he wins, would even consider offering Joe the VP slot given the optics.
Wed May 15, 2019, 07:03 AM
May 2019

Nor, do I see Joe accepting the #2 position again.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
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tymorial

(3,433 posts)
27. Two men who would turn 80 in office do not make a viable ticket
Wed May 15, 2019, 06:52 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
6. What I've been saying
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:26 PM
May 2019

Folks want normalcy. They want someone who knows the White House in and out. Folks want to beat trump. They don't want to take a chance on newbies. Biden/Harris would be a great ticket. We have not had a woman VP. She would be positioned to become President. Sadly, Americans are way behind other countries when it comes to electing women leaders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
9. Harris/Inslee would also be a great ticket. Or Warren/Castro. I'm waiting for the debates
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:42 PM
May 2019

and not picking based on name recognition alone.

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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
11. The older you are the more likely you are to vote.
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:50 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
12. Threaten Medicare and you're bound to lose senior support. nt
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:51 PM
May 2019
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enough

(13,259 posts)
15. Reminds me of the day after Obama was elected for his first term.
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:01 PM
May 2019

I went to a local (non-chain) pharmacy to pick up foams prescriptions for my parents. These store was filled with elderly people in a state of near panic. They believed that Obama was going to “take away our Medicare.” A couple of them seemed near heart attack stage.

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Undecided
 

Kahuna7

(2,531 posts)
17. Bernie has never tried to target seniors. He has always centered millennials...
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:07 PM
May 2019

and Zs, and white working class.

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Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
18. And other polls show him losing this support.
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:57 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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JI7

(89,248 posts)
21. Buttigieg is a more appealing candidate but what is interesting is that Buttigieg doesn't even
Wed May 15, 2019, 12:08 AM
May 2019

support many of the things that Sanders does like medicare for all and free college.

i think it could be more a cultural/generational thing.

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Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
26. I thing Buttigieg is smart but I don't think he can win in a homophobic country
Wed May 15, 2019, 06:46 AM
May 2019

and am too scared of losing to risk it...I also thinks he lacks experience...but very impressive with a future in the party.

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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
22. This poll shows Bernie's support among young people having dropped significantly since March. n/t
Wed May 15, 2019, 12:51 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Demsrule86

(68,556 posts)
25. I saw that...relieved. NT
Wed May 15, 2019, 06:42 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
14. That's Sanders' weak point right now
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:00 PM
May 2019

he's strongest with the folks that vote the least, and his rival is strongest with the folks that vote the most consistently.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. Older voters vote. nt
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:53 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,144 posts)
23. Not good for Bernie given that the older folks are much more reliable voters.
Wed May 15, 2019, 01:36 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Raven123

(4,830 posts)
28. Seems understandable
Wed May 15, 2019, 06:53 AM
May 2019

Biden has been around AND highly visible for a long time. Blue collar and relatable.

Bernie has been around a long time, but his message on health care, economic inequality and free college proposal appeals to younger voters. However, much of his message is voiced by others who have positions that address many of his concerns.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

Gothmog

(145,176 posts)
31. If Bernie loses support among youth, what's left?
Wed May 15, 2019, 05:03 PM
May 2019

sanders is not trying to win a majority of the party but wants to get to the convention with 30% of the delegates. That is less likely now
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/5/15/1857658/-If-Bernie-loses-support-among-youth-what-s-left

Bernie Sanders’ strategy for victory in 2020 isn’t about winning the majority of delegates to the Democratic Party convention. “Sanders aides believe he’ll easily win enough delegates to put him into contention at the convention,” reported The Atlantic. “They say they don’t need him to get more than 30 percent to make that happen.” Once they’re at the convention with his 30 percent, they presumably figure they can threaten and bully the party to nominate him. This way, he doesn’t have to work to expand support beyond his core group of supporters.

However, what happens if he can’t hold that core? This isn’t 2016, with a binary choice between Bernie and a demonized establishment Democrat. This is a rich field, with credible candidates representing just about every key party constituency. There are candidates just as liberal as Bernie, yet not as polarizing. So would Bernie’s core supporters stick with him as they became better aware of this amazing field? Apparently not, according to the latest Morning Consult primary poll.

“Sanders on the decline with 18-29 year-olds,” reads the polling memo. ”Throughout March, Bernie Sanders had 45% of the first choice vote share among America’s youngest voters. That support has steadily declined and currently sits at 33%.”...

With Bernie Sanders at 19 points in this poll, he’s a far cry from the 30 percent or so he wants for his “force himself upon a brokered convention” scenario (understanding that the popular vote and delegate allocation aren’t a one-to-one calculation, but close enough). It’s been clear he’s been maxed out for a while—both his and his supporters’ ornery approach to politics don’t lend themselves to big-tent embrace of a broader coalition. Quite the opposite, in fact.

He can’t grow, and if he can’t hold his most important supporters? His path to the nomination, already near-zero, becomes effectively zero.
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