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brooklynite

(94,537 posts)
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:27 PM May 2019

Biden: Republicans will want to work with Dems after Trump leaves office

Politico

Former Vice President Joe Biden said Tuesday he expects Republicans will have an "epiphany" when President Donald Trump leaves office, and will embrace working with Democratic colleagues.

"I just think there is a way, and the thing that will fundamentally change things is with Donald Trump out of the White House. Not a joke. You will see an epiphany occur among many of my Republican friends," Biden said during a campaign stop in New Hampshire. "It's already beginning in the House now ... If we can't change, we're in trouble. This nation cannot function without generating consensus. It can't do it."

Biden launched his campaign in April with a video announcement featuring staunchly anti-Trump rhetoric, classifying the 2020 election as a "battle for the soul of this nation." He also said if Trump won another four years in the White House, that he would "forever and fundamentally alter the character of this nation."

"What happens is if you can't generate consensus under our system of separated powers, all the power moves to the executive," Biden said Tuesday. "It gives excuses then to say I'm going to enact by executive order to do something because nothing's getting done. That's the president and his team's whole rationale for what they're doing."
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Biden: Republicans will want to work with Dems after Trump leaves office (Original Post) brooklynite May 2019 OP
One can hope. guillaumeb May 2019 #1
I think the point is they will work more than they are now tymorial May 2019 #5
More than nothing isn't necessarily very much . . . hatrack May 2019 #37
And he can hope that this occurs. guillaumeb May 2019 #44
'This nation cannot function without generating consensus. It can't do it.' elleng May 2019 #2
back to the good old days before Trump KayF May 2019 #3
Hello? DownriverDem May 2019 #18
no, Warren is VERY different in this regard KayF May 2019 #30
What is he smoking? dhol82 May 2019 #4
Hey, Joe, they are not your friends anymore. dalton99a May 2019 #6
Come on DownriverDem May 2019 #20
He's absolutely right. LuvNewcastle May 2019 #7
I hope he's right but I think he's wrong. femmedem May 2019 #8
Mitch McConnell will embrace working with Democrats once Trump isn't around. Demit May 2019 #9
I thought Biden was anti marijuana legalization? He's smoking something! Nanjeanne May 2019 #10
This! corbettkroehler May 2019 #42
Is that what this guy expects after 8 years of being Obama's VP? TCJ70 May 2019 #11
Because they have been so cooperative in the past Va Lefty May 2019 #12
And Joe knows it: dalton99a May 2019 #14
Joe. Joe, Joe, Joe... Saviolo May 2019 #13
SARCASM,... right? pangaia May 2019 #15
We won't know until the time comes 4now May 2019 #16
On tax cuts. That will be it. jalan48 May 2019 #17
add bank deregulation and giving more for the security/war state than even Trump/Biden asks for Celerity May 2019 #22
Yep-big Defense budgets are a must! jalan48 May 2019 #41
I'm sure they'd be down for cutting SS/Medicare/anything that helps people. N/t TCJ70 May 2019 #25
I totally forgot about the Grand Bargain-maybe it's still a thing. jalan48 May 2019 #40
they will only work with dems to destroy safety nets, nope, we played that game before yaesu May 2019 #19
Republicans are still geared up to end women's rights delisen May 2019 #35
Sorry Joe CanonRay May 2019 #21
McChinless Celerity May 2019 #26
Yes Joe. I remember how well they worked with Obama before Trump was elected. Autumn May 2019 #23
Love Joe, but no, they won't mcar May 2019 #24
Tip O'Neill is long gone loyalsister May 2019 #27
name one time in all history an epiphany happed to a group Kurt V. May 2019 #28
The three wise men who went to see baby Jesus dalton99a May 2019 #31
they were just late for the baby shower Kurt V. May 2019 #34
Republicans will redouble their efforts to stymie Democrats if they lose the White House. 50 Shades Of Blue May 2019 #29
Does Biden Remember What Republicans Were Like to Work with When He was Vice President? dlk May 2019 #32
Was he asleep while VP? Trump wasn't there. robbedvoter May 2019 #33
Maybe. But only if McConnell is gone. Jacoby365 May 2019 #36
Yeah???? Like they worked with Obama??????? nt LAS14 May 2019 #38
Not holding my breath. muntrv May 2019 #39
It's a great campaign message but I sure hope Biden comradebillyboy May 2019 #43
 

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. One can hope.
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:31 PM
May 2019

But the GOP engaged in over 400 filibusters while Biden was the VP under President Obama.

Has he already forgotten this?

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tymorial

(3,433 posts)
5. I think the point is they will work more than they are now
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:33 PM
May 2019

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hatrack

(59,585 posts)
37. More than nothing isn't necessarily very much . . .
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:20 PM
May 2019

As for "epiphanies", I'll keep walking up and down the sidewalk in front of my house waiting for Jennifer Lawrence to appear and sweep me off my feet.

In case you were wondering, that will happen around the same time that these treasonous corrupt fucks start getting all "bipartisan" with the next Democratic president.

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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
44. And he can hope that this occurs.
Wed May 15, 2019, 11:01 AM
May 2019

My own opinion is that the current leadership of the GOP believes in one Party rule.

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elleng

(130,895 posts)
2. 'This nation cannot function without generating consensus. It can't do it.'
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:32 PM
May 2019
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KayF

(1,345 posts)
3. back to the good old days before Trump
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:32 PM
May 2019

like when Obama was president and the GOP was super-cooperative.

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DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
18. Hello?
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:28 PM
May 2019

That's how it's supposed to work. Don't you think Warren would want to work with both sides? I don't get your negativity.

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KayF

(1,345 posts)
30. no, Warren is VERY different in this regard
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:14 PM
May 2019

I'm very familiar with Biden, when he was in Congress he stood out among Democrats as being unusually chummy with Republicans. Lindsey Graham is his bro, as president Biden will side on some things with his old Senate chums in a way that Warren won't.

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dhol82

(9,353 posts)
4. What is he smoking?
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:32 PM
May 2019

Or, should that be smocking?

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dalton99a

(81,485 posts)
6. Hey, Joe, they are not your friends anymore.
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:34 PM
May 2019
It’s hard to reconcile Biden’s stated optimism with what Democrats have seen on the ground in Washington in recent years. After all, it’s not as though there was broad bipartisan comity before Trump’s ascension in the party, something that Barack Obama’s vice president should certainly know.

After Obama was inaugurated in 2009, Republican leaders in Washington made an explicit effort to block his agenda, with then-House Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) promising that his party would “do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.” Senate Majority Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) famously announced that the “single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

Still, Obama made a prediction similar to Biden’s ahead of the 2012 election.

“I believe that if we’re successful in this election, when we’re successful in this election, that the fever may break,” he said of Republican obstinance, “because there’s a tradition in the Republican Party of more common sense than that.”

The fever didn’t break. Although McConnell didn’t make Obama a one-term president, he was successful at stymieing Democratic legislation during his presidency. McConnell allowed a government shutdown in 2013 in an effort to defund Obama’s Affordable Care Act and blocked numerous judicial appointments, including Obama’s last Supreme Court nominee. McConnell effectively held the seat open until after the 2016 election, allowing Trump to appoint his first justice right after taking office and to fill 112 other federal bench seats.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/14/is-bidens-prediction-republican-post-trump-epiphany-campaign-rhetoric-or-obliviousness/



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DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
20. Come on
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:29 PM
May 2019

That is how it should go. Don't you want both sides to work together?

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LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
7. He's absolutely right.
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:35 PM
May 2019

Congress has abdicated its responsibilities for too long, and the presidency has grown too powerful. We need a President who wants to restrain his or her activities within constitutional boundaries. No more sending troops overseas when your popularity is faltering.

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femmedem

(8,201 posts)
8. I hope he's right but I think he's wrong.
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:38 PM
May 2019

Because before there was Trump, there was Merrick Garland.

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Demit

(11,238 posts)
9. Mitch McConnell will embrace working with Democrats once Trump isn't around.
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:39 PM
May 2019

That's sounds just a wee bit delusional to me.

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Nanjeanne

(4,960 posts)
10. I thought Biden was anti marijuana legalization? He's smoking something!
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:40 PM
May 2019
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corbettkroehler

(1,898 posts)
42. This!
Tue May 14, 2019, 10:53 PM
May 2019

Let's see - 2 quick Obama examples:

1) The American Jobs Act

2) Supreme Court vacancy

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TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
11. Is that what this guy expects after 8 years of being Obama's VP?
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:40 PM
May 2019

Good grief...come on, Joe.

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Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
12. Because they have been so cooperative in the past
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:45 PM
May 2019

Bipartisanship is dead. It was murdered by Newt Gingrich, Tom Delay and Mitch McConnell

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Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
13. Joe. Joe, Joe, Joe...
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:47 PM
May 2019

They're just not that into you.

Mitch McConnell would filibuster Jesus if he thought it would let him hold onto power for 10 more minutes.

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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
15. SARCASM,... right?
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:01 PM
May 2019


WHO is he kidding??


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4now

(1,596 posts)
16. We won't know until the time comes
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:09 PM
May 2019

and if anyone can do it Biden can.

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jalan48

(13,864 posts)
17. On tax cuts. That will be it.
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:16 PM
May 2019
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jalan48

(13,864 posts)
41. Yep-big Defense budgets are a must!
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:19 PM
May 2019
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TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
25. I'm sure they'd be down for cutting SS/Medicare/anything that helps people. N/t
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:01 PM
May 2019
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jalan48

(13,864 posts)
40. I totally forgot about the Grand Bargain-maybe it's still a thing.
Tue May 14, 2019, 09:18 PM
May 2019
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yaesu

(8,020 posts)
19. they will only work with dems to destroy safety nets, nope, we played that game before
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:28 PM
May 2019

lets not fall for that crap again.

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delisen

(6,043 posts)
35. Republicans are still geared up to end women's rights
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:28 PM
May 2019

The recent Supreme Court decision overturning a precedent show how they intend to do it.

Republicans blocked legislation for all the years leading up to Trump-starting with the Affordable Care Act. They have also taken Russian oligarch money-don't see that stopping or being stopped.

Without the Senate turning majority Democratic in 2020 (and Democrats widening their majority in the House) a Democratic agenda is not going to succeed.

There are state legislatures which have to increase Democratic seats-we lost so many going back to 2010 when we suffered the backlash from getting the Affordable care Act passed-a major achievement which came at a price, as many great achievements do.

One has to go back decades to find a time wen there was a Republican Party that worked in any way for the good of the 99% and did not exploit racial tensions and anti-female resentment in order to increase income inequality.

We have reached an ultimate crossroad. We have to fight hard and win.

We can't validate what is happening today by trusting that there will be a change of heart in the opposition.

During the Cold War more than a generation of Catholic school children spent lots of time praying for the conversion of the USSR and the end of communism. The USSR finally fell apart-but I don't think it was because the prayers worked.










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CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
21. Sorry Joe
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:48 PM
May 2019

You're fucking dreaming. Remember that Supreme Court seat McChinless screwed us out of? Nothing to do with Trump.

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Autumn

(45,077 posts)
23. Yes Joe. I remember how well they worked with Obama before Trump was elected.
Tue May 14, 2019, 06:59 PM
May 2019
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mcar

(42,316 posts)
24. Love Joe, but no, they won't
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:00 PM
May 2019
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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
27. Tip O'Neill is long gone
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:06 PM
May 2019

Along with the most influential politicians from the Reagan era. Even the very sporadic, disingenuous bipartisan spirit from the Clinton years is history.
I'm not confident that bipartisanship would mean anything other than Democrats moving rightward as happened post Reagan.

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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
28. name one time in all history an epiphany happed to a group
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:10 PM
May 2019
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dalton99a

(81,485 posts)
31. The three wise men who went to see baby Jesus
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:15 PM
May 2019

and gave him fragrance products

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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
34. they were just late for the baby shower
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:25 PM
May 2019
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50 Shades Of Blue

(9,990 posts)
29. Republicans will redouble their efforts to stymie Democrats if they lose the White House.
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:11 PM
May 2019
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dlk

(11,566 posts)
32. Does Biden Remember What Republicans Were Like to Work with When He was Vice President?
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:17 PM
May 2019

Republicans are the same now as they were then, and have no reason to change their obstructionist ways. Paul Krugman recently wrote an editorial addressing this very issue.

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robbedvoter

(28,290 posts)
33. Was he asleep while VP? Trump wasn't there.
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:24 PM
May 2019

Neither was sanity. SCOTUS.

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Jacoby365

(451 posts)
36. Maybe. But only if McConnell is gone.
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:18 PM
May 2019
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LAS14

(13,783 posts)
38. Yeah???? Like they worked with Obama??????? nt
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:21 PM
May 2019
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muntrv

(14,505 posts)
39. Not holding my breath.
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:26 PM
May 2019
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comradebillyboy

(10,147 posts)
43. It's a great campaign message but I sure hope Biden
Wed May 15, 2019, 01:47 AM
May 2019

doesn't believe it's really true.

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