Beto O'Rourke talks to immigrant barber to show REAL face of border immigrants

[Indygram]

And right wing pundits and Beto haters focus on him getting a haircut (like all male politicians do) and two second joke about ear hair. (no actual ear hair shown or harmed in the making of this video)

Here is the actual video...decide for yourselves.

[left-of-center2012]

1. Seems like a nice guy, but ...

Not presidential.

I don't think he can do the job.

[Indygram]

2. Define presidential

And provide examples of who you think IS presidential.

Also, this looks pretty damn "presidential" to me.

and this:

[left-of-center2012]

14. thanks

[essadaw]

5. Strange that Obama, Biden, and Bernie, etc. haircut press events/photo ops are okay

There was another thread that showed photos of many presidents and presidential candidate's getting haircuts as part of their campaign throughout the decades. But Beto decides to include an interview with his barber to put a face on the immigration issue, and all of a sudden it is not presidential. It is telling that the quick joke Beto made is getting more coverage than the immigration issue

[left-of-center2012]

15. Forget the haircut

He is not presidential.

[RLG]

21. Who are you for? n/t

[Indygram]

48. They appear to just be mostly against Beto

I've seen the same extremely lame comment on multiple threads about him.

[Tipperary]

22. Agree.

To me he seems like a kid who really has not grown up. The Vanity Fair article convinced me of that.

[essadaw]

39. did you actually read the Vanity Fair article?

the title was out of context and classic click bait. He never said he was born to be president. The context was born to do public service. But most of the media just looked at the out of context title and ran with it

[Tipperary]

61. I read the article.

That is where I learned about the Walmart story.

[DesertRat]

75. The author of the article stands by the title

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/vanity-fair-editor-hits-back-on-betos-born-to-run-quote-regrets-he-did-say-it-2019-05-16

[LanternWaste]

23. That's quite the unsupported allegation.

Creative, of course. Less original, but that's a given. But as for supporting your premise with, well... anything other than bumper-stickers, it well and truly lacks.

Ironically, I'm betting you'll be one of the last to forget the haircut.

[left-of-center2012]

28. This

[DesertRat]

41. I don't remember any female candidate's hair appts. being livestreamed

I don't think that would go over well.

[Indygram]

49. Well, Kamala cooking caused a bit of a stir as well

Minus all the Russian bots and MAGA trolls retweeting it like they always do with Beto. I just find it very sad that those right wing attacks seem to keep finding their way on this site. I guess some just want to let Russians use social media to meddle and influence another election.

[DesertRat]

51. Do you have the video?

I didn't see her live streaming herself cooking, and the "bit of a stir" that you say it caused.

[Indygram]

53. I only saw a small clip that they showed on The View

I think it was the same day Beto was on. They were talking about it causing some kind of stir. Apparently her husband posted a photo (edited after looking it up, I don't think it was a video, but a photo) of her cooking on Mother's Day and people (who probably just don't like her to begin with) supposedly got their knickers all in a twist. It's probably somewhere on Youtube.

[DesertRat]

55. Oh yeah, the tweet that her husband posted

It was a really nice photo. I posted it in the Harris 2020 group the other day.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1295120

[Indygram]

64. I didn't see anything wrong with it at all

And thought it was stupid that anyone complained about it. Kinda like I think the ridiculous complaints and attacks on Beto are stupid. You would think that with what is at stake that people would actually stay the hell out of the mud at least until we have a nominee and focus on more positive stuff but apparently that's too high of expectations.

[Tipperary]

63. Especially if she brought up ear hair!

Can you imagine?

[Indygram]

65. Women don't get ear hair...

And if one of the women candidates were in a salon getting their nails done, a pedicure or their hair done or even a dentist it would not change my opinion of them in any way. Perhaps that is because I think it's stupid to judge people on such dumb and shallow things. Those are all normal things and anyone who is going to have a cow over a presidential candidate caring about their appearance or teeth are just LOOKING for a reason to hate on them. I'll never trust the motives of people who are like that.

[Tipperary]

68. Allrighty then.

[DesertRat]

76. Or maybe eyebrow waxing?

Any grooming video and her campaign would be over. Just sayin'

[Indygram]

3. kick for added videos

eom

[murielm99]

4. Of course I would vote for Beto.

I would get out and work my ass off for him.

But I would rather see him as a Congressman or Senator. We need good people at all levels.

[Indygram]

6. There is a wonderful WOMAN running for Conrnyn's seat, MJ Hegar, please support her

and don't contribute to minimizing her by calling for Beto to run. He is running for president because that is what his family wants him to do and because he wants to unite this country and tackle climate change.

[murielm99]

8. Okay.

I don't live in your state, and I don't know her.

Thanks for the info.

[Indygram]

10. I don't live in Texas either

But she had a campaign ad that went viral, so she is pretty well known.

[Tipperary]

26. I am not sure where you are getting that his family

wants him to run. His children have been vocal in opposition to his run.

[Indygram]

30. Initially they didn't want him to, but his kids actually started telling him to run

He talked about it in an interview...I think it was the AxeFiles interview.

I found this interview with Gayle King. I set the URL to start when she starts asking about why he decided to run. It goes a few minutes but explains the part about his kids telling him to run. It's at about 3:10 into the video if the URL start time doesn't work.

?t=188

[Tipperary]

33. Perhaps that is true.

I hope so. Leaving them for his little “driveabout” to go skateboarding and eat dirt after his loss to Cruz seemed very selfish to me.

[Indygram]

38. I thought right wing talking points were against the rules...

You do realize that "eat dirt" bit is part of a religious pilgrimage, right?

https://www.holychimayo.us

https://www.holychimayo.us/single-post/2017/09/07/El-Pocito-the-Little-Well

[Tipperary]

62. Nice try. nt

[Indygram]

66. Perhaps you should do a quick search on google or twitter then

Because this same things you are posting is all over right wing media and being retweeted by Russian bots and MAGA trolls. Perhaps you didn't realize that? No worries, though...you do you. You aren't hurting Beto or helping Mayor Pete with your comments. The more energy you use up hating on Beto the less you have to promote the candidate you like. Carry on...

[Tipperary]

69. Everything I have posted came from what i

have read about him. My sources are NYTimes, WaPo, the Vanity Fair article, and other legitimate news sources.

I have said nothing that is not true. Please tell me the Walmart story is not true. I’ll wait here.

[Indygram]

70. I was responding to this post/comment you made:

Leaving them for his little “driveabout” to go skateboarding and eat dirt after his loss to Cruz seemed very selfish to me.

The "eating dirt" is constantly posted by Russian bots and MAGA trolls.

And are you from Australia? Americans don't use the term "driveabout."

[murielm99]

58. I would like to apologize to you and all the other

Beto supporters. Primary season gets nasty here. I do not want to contribute to that.

[Indygram]

67. Thank you...I appreciate that

I don't mind valid criticism on accurate stories...that is part of the vetting process...but there are so many misleading, twisted, inaccurate and straight up false articles being published attacking Beto. On twitter the Russian bots and MAGA trolls are going HARD against Beto. That tells me that someone is afraid of him and that makes him even more appealing to me.

[essadaw]

7. there already is a great candidate for Texas Senate

why not support her instead of trying to knock down Beto.

Also, it is a little odd seeing this line of attack from a Pete supporter, when the same attack strategy has also been employed against Pete from supporters of other candidates wanting to clear out both Beto and Pete

[murielm99]

9. This is not an attack!

For crying out loud!

[Indygram]

11. Beto supporters see that "He needs to run for Senate" comment at least 100 times a day

It's honestly beyond old at this point. Your comment was likely number 99 they saw today, lol.

Beto live streams EVERYTHING on facebook, so his supporters know exactly what he does and says. The media is doing one hit piece after another on him and are NOT reporting accurately at all. Seeing that done to your chosen candidate day in and day out and then see that same misinformation and twisting spread on here is utterly infuriating.

It's not unreasonable to expect media coverage to at least be accurate.

[murielm99]

12. I come here to learn about these things.

Attacking me instead of informing me is silly.

I don't have anyone on ignore, but if it gets snarky enough in here, that will happen, too.

Thin skins don't work well in politics.

[Indygram]

13. I'm glad that you are trying to learn

A word of warning about the negative stories on Beto...I have yet to see one that was not either twisted or heavily misrepresented. He is a genuinely GOOD, honest, genuine and thoughtful person. He never has a negative word to say about any other candidate running and has even stood up for Mayor Pete when those homophobe hecklers went after him in Texas. Beto does NOT deserve the kind of treatment he is getting. If you want an accurate representation of what an article reports on...check his facebook because there is a 99% chance the real story is on video there.

[essadaw]

17. apologies

my apologies at misreading the intention of your comment. Supporters of other candidates (two in particular) are constantly posting about this and many seem blatantly attacking, so I was thin-skinned when I shouldn't have been.

I have also seen the same attacks about how Pete should drop out and run for something in Indiana (to better clear the way for the attackers preferred candidate), so that is why I found it puzzling coming from a Pete supporter

[RLG]

20. It's not an attack, but you didn't say anything positive about him either.

You would freak out if someone said Buttigieg should run for Congress or Governor from Indiana, which I think he should do.

[LanternWaste]

24. Oh oh... so now neutrality is suspect?

If we're not worshiping sacred cows we must then say nothing.

How... short sighted. At best.

[RLG]

25. That poster wasn't neutral.

n/t

[murielm99]

42. I would freak out?

You've been here how long, and you know that about me?

I have been through silly season here several times.

[murielm99]

57. I would like to apologize to you and

all the other Beto supporters. I meant no offense. Primary season gets rough here. I do not want to contribute to that.

[TexasTowelie]

34. Beto already served six years in Congress.

It would be difficult to win a statewide race in 2020 against Sen. Cornyn who is held in higher esteem than Ted Cruz. The next statewide race is for governor in 2022 and Greg Abbott is popular among the GOP voters. He could run against Cruz again in 2024, but there isn't any indication that he would win if he waited that long. In short, the possibility of Beto winning a statewide race in Texas is near zero for at least five more years.

I think Beto made the best choice for his immediate political future. Even if he doesn't succeed in the primaries, I think that he would be an excellent running mate for most of the candidates and could put Texas into play for the general election.

I do wish that he was less hyperactive since it distracts from his message, but I think that he is as electable as any other candidate that has entered the race.

[Rstrstx]

40. Actually I think he could win the Lt Governor's race in 2022

It's as powerful as the governor's job and Dan Patrick is not well liked, he won by about 5 points against a little known candidate last year. And there's no more straight party voting.

What O'Rourke has to worry about now is other Democratic candidates damaging him by running below-the-belt campaigns. Some of the dumbest excuses are popping up about him, like the arm waving (have you ever seen AOC talk?)

[murielm99]

43. Thank you, Towelie.

I appreciate your comments.

[murielm99]

56. I would like to apologize to you,

and all the other Beto supporters. I meant no offense. Primary season is nasty enough without getting off to this kind of start.

[TexasTowelie]

59. No apology is necessary as far as I'm concerned, but I appreciate you thoughtfulness.

I realize that everyone is going to have their preferred candidates in the race and that there will also be criticisms about all of the candidates since it's the nature of political campaigns. I do wish that the media would focus on the candidates records, policies, and some of the details about how they handled adversity and success rather than the trivial stuff like ear hair.

I also don't believe that we should be dismissive of any of the candidates. Unfortunately, the article that was posted earlier today took a condescending and dismissive tone towards Beto. We've seen similar articles about all of the other candidates and I've filed nearly all of those articles in the trash bin. In the end, all of our candidates are better than Trump and I will vote for the Democratic nominee in November 2020.

[RLG]

16. Thank you so much for showing the full video.

I hope it shows the naysayers not to judge and to listen.

[Indygram]

18. I wish it were that simple, but I've provided the video on the other thread

But many still choose to ignore it. Ultimately, Beto is a threat to their chosen candidates. If he were getting accurate and fair media coverage he would be in the top 3 in polling. If he doesn't win the nomination then he would also be a top contender for VP, so he is also viewed as a threat to those candidates as well.

I'm glad they are at least advertising his CNN Town Hall next week pretty aggressively. He especially shines when answering policy questions from voters, even the ones that are difficult. He did really well on Rachel Maddow, too. The HBO documentary on the 28th should help too.

[RLG]

19. Oh, I agree!

I think the more people see him, the more people are interested.

They see him as a major threat.

[Tipperary]

27. I actually do not think anyone sees him as any kind

of threat. Way too many bad stories about him already. He was all on board with demolishing a poor neighborhood to build a Walmart when he worked for the city. Thankfully, that failed.

[RLG]

31. Well, many say there are bad stories about your candidate.

I know some people are misinformed, but the so-called stories have stuck with many, including African American voters over his statements such as "all lives matter", the police chief, and gentrification.

[Tipperary]

35. I have four candidates at this point.

I have seen nothing about building Walmarts, skateboarding, eating dirt, or writing poor, vaguely obscene poetry in any of my candidates’ backgrounds.

That stuff will be devastating if he were to be our nominee. He was unable to even beat Cruz.

[RLG]

37. One of your candidates lost statewide as well and only won with 9,500 votes when he won for mayor.

What's your point?

[dalton99a]

45. He received a total of 8,515 votes

in 2015, to be exact

[Tipperary]

60. My point is he would not beat rump.

[RLG]

73. Unless he is able to convince African American voters which he is having difficulty as of now,

he won't be rump either.

[Indygram]

32. The media reports are in direct conflict with what is happening on the ground

The crowds going to see him in person are obviously not being polled, but they do vote and caucus.

[dalton99a]

47. They have an agenda to push.

Beto actually has thick skin - for most of his campaign in Texas the media treated him like some kind of weirdo on a fool's errand - he basically ignored the noise and focused on building his massive GOTV network using social media

His skills as a leader and motivator are evident

[Indygram]

71. Yes, there is a very clear agenda, but since he livestreams everything

It's very easy to tell when the media and others are less than honest. The agenda is very easy to spot. But hey, it has made me see that there are even some supposedly reputable sources who are not as reliable as I once thought. Now I will verify everything rather than automatically trust reports. Sucks to have to be so cynical but that is what happens when you see bogus reports so often.

[dalton99a]

72. +1. The dental hygienist's freeze frame was classic bullshit

but of course posters on here dutifully repeated the bullshit

[Indygram]

74. I noticed that

eom

[SouthernProgressive]

29. K&R NT

[TexasTowelie]

36. K&R.

I wish that people would listen to his message rather than get ridiculous about the nonsense.

[MustLoveBeagles]

44. Thank you for this thread

This so called controversy is just stupid.

[Indygram]

46. Agreed, but hey, many Texas candidates who were caught on camera in barbershops

Ended up winning and becoming president.

It seems like Beto bashing is a new favorite sport for some people. It's sad for them.

[femmedem]

50. A wonderful video highlighting Manuel's story.

I completely understand your frustration about how this video is being mischaracterized, especially on a site dedicated to supporting Democrats.

[MustLoveBeagles]

52. +1

[Indygram]

54. Exactly...especially considering right wing sites are saying the same things

that some people are posting on here. It's ridiculous. Why on earth are democrats going after other Democrats so viciously when they know full well the stories aren't accurate? It's one thing to debate policies and things that are important...but getting a haircut and making a joke about ear hair while highlighting the story of an immigrant does NOT warrant the feigned outrage.