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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Thu May 16, 2019, 03:56 PM May 2019

*****BREAKING NEWS*****Ukraine Prosecutor Says No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Bidens





Ukraine’s prosecutor general said in an interview that he had no evidence of wrongdoing by U.S. Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden or his son, despite a swirl of allegations by President Donald Trump’s lawyer.

The controversy stems from diplomatic actions by Biden while his son, Hunter Biden, sat on the board of Burisma Group, one of the country’s biggest private gas companies. As vice president, Biden pursued an anti-corruption policy in Ukraine in 2016 that included a call for the resignation of the country’s top prosecutor who had previously investigated Burisma.

Yuriy Lutsenko, the current prosecutor general, said that neither Hunter Biden nor Burisma were now the focus of an investigation. He added, however, that he was planning to offer details to U.S. Attorney General William Barr about Burisma board payments so American authorities could check whether Hunter Biden paid U.S. taxes on the income.

...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-16/ukraine-prosecutor-says-no-evidence-of-wrongdoing-by-bidens
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*****BREAKING NEWS*****Ukraine Prosecutor Says No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Bidens (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 OP
Take that, Rudy! highplainsdem May 2019 #1
Gee, I can't wait to see this report on Fox. Shell_Seas May 2019 #2
Another TRUMPED-up charge bites the dust sandensea May 2019 #3
K&R stonecutter357 May 2019 #4
More good news for Biden. comradebillyboy May 2019 #5
See, Don? THIS Is What "Complete and Total Exoneration" Looks Like... The_Counsel May 2019 #6
Much to do about nothing from the start. djacq May 2019 #7
A scandal involving Ukraine isn't good. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #8
Lol ok Loki Liesmith May 2019 #12
Biden had nothing to do with Ukraine-nothingburger NYMinute May 2019 #13
Well...the art. says he pushed policy to fire the Ukraine's top prosecutor... Honeycombe8 May 2019 #15
To the half dozen people who want to hang on to this story. oasis May 2019 #18
"Lol ok." DemocratSinceBirth May 2019 #14
Agree. zentrum May 2019 #16
Of course you do. Cha May 2019 #37
Any time. Glad to give you the opportunity zentrum May 2019 #46
How would a VP have nothing to do with the things you mention? SouthernProgressive May 2019 #17
You see LOTS OF HEADLINES explaining that Biden Insisted prosecutor Viktor Shokin be fired because.. TrollBuster9090 May 2019 #21
That's not what the article says. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #28
I won't let the right wing pick my candidates for me. Demsrule86 May 2019 #31
lol you fell for it ? stonecutter357 May 2019 #26
Are you saying that the Bloomberg article is wrong or misleading? Honeycombe8 May 2019 #30
NO PROBLEM,....... DIDN'T YOU READ THE ARTICLE ? It's a nothingburgergerger. trueblue2007 May 2019 #34
Point out what's wrong in the OP, please. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #38
Of course you do. It's NOT a Cha May 2019 #36
I understand he's your guy. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #40
Yeah, there is.. because of course you do. Cha May 2019 #41
You're bordering on a personal attack for someone expressing a non-hateful opinion. Honeycombe8 May 2019 #42
"No collusion, no obstruction"! George II May 2019 #9
Except that's for real this time!! MontanaMama May 2019 #11
Gosh darn it LibFarmer May 2019 #10
Or nothingberders? muntrv May 2019 #29
This bugs me some Jarqui May 2019 #19
That's what I thought. LuvNewcastle May 2019 #22
Joe Biden is a public figure, Hunter Biden is a private citizen who has just been SLANDERED. TrollBuster9090 May 2019 #20
Raw Story: Internet ridicules 'humiliated' Giuliani for epic failure highplainsdem May 2019 #23
Glad this is off the table mcar May 2019 #24
Eric Boehlert: NYT correction runs when? highplainsdem May 2019 #25
THiIS is a nothing buger. muntrv May 2019 #27
They're ALL nothingburgers. If a republi-CON starts yowling about wanting another calimary May 2019 #32
Or a nothingberder? muntrv May 2019 #43
No collusion! No collusion! No collusion! patphil May 2019 #33
KR! Cha May 2019 #35
Trump And Giuliani Humiliated As Ukraine Finds No Evidence Of Biden Wrongdoing Gothmog May 2019 #39
K&R Scurrilous May 2019 #44
Kick for clearance. nt oasis May 2019 #45
 

Shell_Seas

(3,333 posts)
2. Gee, I can't wait to see this report on Fox.
Thu May 16, 2019, 03:58 PM
May 2019
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sandensea

(21,635 posts)
3. Another TRUMPED-up charge bites the dust
Thu May 16, 2019, 03:58 PM
May 2019
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The_Counsel

(1,660 posts)
6. See, Don? THIS Is What "Complete and Total Exoneration" Looks Like...
Thu May 16, 2019, 04:17 PM
May 2019

Another phrase I'd use is "big fat waste of time," but whatever...

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djacq

(1,634 posts)
7. Much to do about nothing from the start.
Thu May 16, 2019, 04:21 PM
May 2019
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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. A scandal involving Ukraine isn't good.
Thu May 16, 2019, 04:23 PM
May 2019

I'm MUCH prefer a candidate who has NOTHING to do with Russia, Ukraine, or any of the countries Russia has been involved in or with.

I see this as a problem.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
12. Lol ok
Thu May 16, 2019, 04:31 PM
May 2019

Did you read the headline?

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
13. Biden had nothing to do with Ukraine-nothingburger
Thu May 16, 2019, 04:36 PM
May 2019

They were trying to drag his son into a non-scandal and create guilt by association.

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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
15. Well...the art. says he pushed policy to fire the Ukraine's top prosecutor...
Thu May 16, 2019, 04:43 PM
May 2019

so he did have something to do with Ukraine. The problematic part is that the prosecutor had investigated the Ukranian company that his son, Hunter, was on the board of.

So there is a connection with the country. I don't believe for a second that there was anything wrong with any of that. But I'd just prefer a candidate that has had nothing to do with Ukraine or Russia or other Russia-connected countries.

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Undecided
 

oasis

(49,383 posts)
18. To the half dozen people who want to hang on to this story.
Thu May 16, 2019, 04:54 PM
May 2019

Best of luck.

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Cha

(297,220 posts)
37. Of course you do.
Thu May 16, 2019, 06:35 PM
May 2019
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zentrum

(9,865 posts)
46. Any time. Glad to give you the opportunity
Fri May 17, 2019, 04:39 PM
May 2019

...to comment.

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Undecided
 

SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
17. How would a VP have nothing to do with the things you mention?
Thu May 16, 2019, 04:54 PM
May 2019
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TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
21. You see LOTS OF HEADLINES explaining that Biden Insisted prosecutor Viktor Shokin be fired because..
Thu May 16, 2019, 05:02 PM
May 2019

...because Shokin BLOCKED INVESTIGATIONS INTO CORRUPTION as bad news for Biden?

I don't. If the right wing noise machine wants to make an issue out of this on Fux Noise, more power to them! But if I were them, I'd shut up about it, and hope everyone forgets it as soon as possible. Back to childish nicknames and Anita Hill. That's the best they can do against Biden.

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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
28. That's not what the article says.
Thu May 16, 2019, 05:30 PM
May 2019

If the article is wrong, someone should have flagged it as incorrect.

It says the prosecutor investigated the company. Not that he blocked an investigation. This is the excerpt in the OP:

As vice president, Biden pursued an anti-corruption policy in Ukraine in 2016 that included a call for the resignation of the country’s top prosecutor who had previously investigated Burisma.


In any case, this is why I'd prefer a candidate w/o any ties to Russian-connected countries. This is not the conversation we should be having about a candidate.
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Demsrule86

(68,574 posts)
31. I won't let the right wing pick my candidates for me.
Thu May 16, 2019, 05:38 PM
May 2019
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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
30. Are you saying that the Bloomberg article is wrong or misleading?
Thu May 16, 2019, 05:34 PM
May 2019

Bloomberg is a legit news source. But if the article is wrong, shouldn't you tell the OP that she cited an incorrect article?

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Undecided
 

trueblue2007

(17,218 posts)
34. NO PROBLEM,....... DIDN'T YOU READ THE ARTICLE ? It's a nothingburgergerger.
Thu May 16, 2019, 06:26 PM
May 2019
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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
38. Point out what's wrong in the OP, please.
Thu May 16, 2019, 06:36 PM
May 2019

I read the excerpt, which is clear about the facts. There's nothing to the accusations, of course. It's the facts I was referring to, and I said that.



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Cha

(297,220 posts)
36. Of course you do. It's NOT a
Thu May 16, 2019, 06:34 PM
May 2019

problem.

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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
40. I understand he's your guy.
Thu May 16, 2019, 06:41 PM
May 2019

But there's no need to do the "of course you do" to every post that expresses a wish to have a candidate without an issue like this.

There is no reason to assume I would feel that way, since I am not supporting any of the candidates thus far. Altho I'm leaning away from Biden. That may change.

It's not up to me or you, though.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Cha

(297,220 posts)
41. Yeah, there is.. because of course you do.
Thu May 16, 2019, 06:42 PM
May 2019
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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
42. You're bordering on a personal attack for someone expressing a non-hateful opinion.
Thu May 16, 2019, 06:46 PM
May 2019

I expressed a calm, non-hateful genuine opinion. Unless you're very insecure, there's no reason to personally attack me or the others who expressed the same opinion.

Each of us is entitled to an opinion.

All things being equal, it's just common sense that it would be better not to have a Ukraine-connection issue. I said, and I repeat, the accusations about the connection are false, but the underlying facts about the connection are real, if the OP excerpt is correct. If it's not correct, you need to report it to the OP, so he/she can remove the incorrect post.

When you attack people for expressing what amounts to a minor opinion on a minor subject, it moves people away from your candidate.

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Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. "No collusion, no obstruction"!
Thu May 16, 2019, 04:23 PM
May 2019
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MontanaMama

(23,314 posts)
11. Except that's for real this time!!
Thu May 16, 2019, 04:29 PM
May 2019
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LibFarmer

(772 posts)
10. Gosh darn it
Thu May 16, 2019, 04:28 PM
May 2019

Now they'll have to keep digging for more nothingburgers in the nothingburger mine.

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muntrv

(14,505 posts)
29. Or nothingberders?
Thu May 16, 2019, 05:31 PM
May 2019
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Jarqui

(10,125 posts)
19. This bugs me some
Thu May 16, 2019, 04:55 PM
May 2019
"He added, however, that he was planning to offer details to U.S. Attorney General William Barr about Burisma board payments so American authorities could check whether Hunter Biden paid U.S. taxes on the income."


On what basis does AG Barr get access to Hunter Biden's tax returns or get someone to review them for him? Why only Hunter Biden? Are there no other American board members?

Hypocritical for this administration, isn't it (given what they're fighting over in court about the President's tax returns)?

Not that that would bother Barr or Trump ...
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LuvNewcastle

(16,846 posts)
22. That's what I thought.
Thu May 16, 2019, 05:13 PM
May 2019

If Barr can get H. Biden's returns, why can't the House get Trump's?

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TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
20. Joe Biden is a public figure, Hunter Biden is a private citizen who has just been SLANDERED.
Thu May 16, 2019, 04:56 PM
May 2019

Maybe he should SUE that old reptile, Giuliani, for damages?

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mcar

(42,331 posts)
24. Glad this is off the table
Thu May 16, 2019, 05:17 PM
May 2019

At least, it should be. Any media outlet that continues to report the Rs lies about this is committing journalistic malpractice.

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highplainsdem

(48,976 posts)
25. Eric Boehlert: NYT correction runs when?
Thu May 16, 2019, 05:21 PM
May 2019
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muntrv

(14,505 posts)
27. THiIS is a nothing buger.
Thu May 16, 2019, 05:29 PM
May 2019
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calimary

(81,265 posts)
32. They're ALL nothingburgers. If a republi-CON starts yowling about wanting another
Thu May 16, 2019, 06:08 PM
May 2019

investigation of anybody on our side of the aisle, ANY of it is bound to be a nothingburger.

Maybe they just automatically assume everybody cheats like they do.

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muntrv

(14,505 posts)
43. Or a nothingberder?
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:25 PM
May 2019
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patphil

(6,176 posts)
33. No collusion! No collusion! No collusion!
Thu May 16, 2019, 06:13 PM
May 2019

Who ho!

Lets investigate the investigator...Rudy Giuliani!

Patrick Phillips

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Gothmog

(145,231 posts)
39. Trump And Giuliani Humiliated As Ukraine Finds No Evidence Of Biden Wrongdoing
Thu May 16, 2019, 06:40 PM
May 2019
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