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[DownriverDem]

1. Don't attack Dems

I only support true members of the Democratic Party. Your post proves my point.

[Tiggeroshii]

2. This is not an attack

Just a valid argument stating the facts about the consequences of his policies.

[DownriverDem]

3. Why is it

only BS supporters attack Biden? You will never win support that way.

[Tiggeroshii]

5. Why is it only his opponents call him "BS?"

To use a pejorative on a Democratic figure? Clever.

[DownriverDem]

26. Because

we don't want to use his name.

[Tiggeroshii]

28. You sure it isnt because you believe he is bullshit?

[DownriverDem]

32. I don't believe

in users. Why would you think that Biden supporters would move to BS with your negative posts? No they wouldn't. They would move to one of the other candidates that are true members of the Democratic Party.

[Tiggeroshii]

33. Way to avoid answering the question

But I've received your answer nonetheless

[George II]

29. That's not true, many use his initials, just like many use these initials, too:

JFK
RFK
LBJ
RMN
DDE
FDR

etc.....

[Tiggeroshii]

31. His supporters do not

And it is obvious his opponents only use his initials because they stand for bullshit, and are trying to be disparaging. This is not subtle.

[DownriverDem]

34. It's clear

you don't get it. We support true members of the Democratic Party. Now comment on that.

[Tiggeroshii]

39. Bernie has been a member of the democratic caucus since he has been in the house

Contributes to his state democratic party when he does not accept the nomination and is recognized on this board as a democratic figure, where 8% have indicated their support for him. Were he to receive the nomination, he will be our Democratic candidate whether you like it or not.

[George II]

36. I've seen his supporters do so, even on DU. Before you ask - no, I won't go looking for any.

[NurseJackie]

58. I doubt BS minds at all.

[BannonsLiver]

45. why do BS supporters attack Biden and others?

Because Biden stands in the way of the utopia Sanders supporters believe only he can create.

[Gothmog]

48. Kamala Harris And Elizabeth Warren Rise As Bernie Sanders Sinks

You may need to expand your target list

Link to tweet

[MrsCoffee]

11. The writer is basically a self proclaimed "Bernie brocialist".

“By now you're pigeonholing me as an anti-capital, pitchfork wielding, Bernie brocialist out for billionaire blood. That's fair enough.” Zachary Siegel 2016

I also noticed several right wing sites slobbering all over this article.

[DownriverDem]

27. Exactly

what BS supporters don't get.

[ehrnst]

53. No surprise. (nt)

[awesomerwb1]

4. LOL You're trying too hard man

[Tiggeroshii]

7. Constructive criticism is what it is.

The opioid crisis is not a laughing matter, imho

[DownriverDem]

35. No one

will move to BS with your negative posts.

[Gothmog]

50. sanders is not going to be the nominee with current polling numbers

Link to tweet

[George II]

8. Bazinga!

[lapucelle]

6. If laws written and enacted 33 years ago need to revisited, repealed, or amended,

it's the responsibility of current members of Congress to do something.

If only we had an Amendment King...

[George II]

9. Your candidate fully embraced Biden's policies.

[Tiggeroshii]

10. Citation?

[DownriverDem]

37. His time has passed

The Dems have excellent candidates that are true members of the Democratic Party.

[bahrbearian]

12. Policy, not Policies.

The Iraq War was Biden's Policy not Bernie's
The Crime bill was Biden's policy...

[George II]

14. 1. The Iraq War was NOT "Biden's policy" 2. Sanders voted for the Crime Bill

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[Skya Rhen]

15. Really? Bernie voted for the Crime Bill - his policy (using your reasoning)...

[Tiggeroshii]

20. Bernie was against the main tenants of the crime bill and regularyl

Made clear his concerns about mass incarceration. However, once the Violence Against Women Act was added, he voted for it. Not exactly an enthusiastic endorsement as you suggest.

[Skya Rhen]

25. Bernie signed it - he cannot make excuses. His hands are not clean...

[DownriverDem]

40. When are BS

folks going to get it?

[George II]

42. He voted for the crime bill.

[ehrnst]

54. His vote for the bill is different because..... REASONS!

NO other politcian, however, deserves to have the nuances of their votes considered.

Just Bernie.

[NurseJackie]

59. It's...

[NYMinute]

13. Several summaries of the OP come to mind.

1. We are desperate to find smears
2. Damn that Biden is destroying our dreams
3. Any port in a storm - even assisted by right wing media
4. Mommy, Biden is beating up my doll.
5. I was feeling depressed until I found this article. Now I'll feel better at least until the next poll comes out.

[OhZone]

16. lulz

Well summarized. ha!

[George II]

19. Next, he wore a tan suit....

[Lochloosa]

21. Well then. I'm done!

[Docreed2003]

43. Lmmfao....

The horror!!!

[Gothmog]

47. Yep

[ehrnst]

51. +1000. (nt)

[George II]

18. Another day, another Biden hit piece.

[DownriverDem]

41. What's funny

is that BS folks think hitting on Biden is going to move folks their way. If they move, it will be to one of the other candidates that are true members of the Democratic Party.

[George II]

44. Exactly. I suspect for every potential Sanders voter who moves to Biden another moves to Warren.

[aikoaiko]

49. That's OK.

[ehrnst]

55. Yes, I've heard that "even though I don't think Bernie will get the nomination, we need him as

the frontrunner, so he will move the party to the left!" as the reason that some Sanders supporters bash every other Democratic candidate. If Bernie = "the left" then trashing everyone else as 'corrupt' will make them choose the 'least corrupt' candidate... which would be ALWAYS Bernie.

I think it's the "cutting the head off someone else makes you taller" reasoning.

It's easier than trying to make a case for him based on his record of legislative acheivement.

[DarthDem]

24. This Isn't Garnering Any New Support for Sen. Sanders

Try a new tactic. Or, you know, don't.

[loyalsister]

30. The congress of the Reagan yrs through the 90s brought us where we are today

"Normalcy" was the sacrifice of regulation and keeping monied interests in check along with the policies that perpetuated systemic racism. A surrender to Reaganism in the 90s brought us the economic/cultural damage that Trump exploited to get elected. The opioid crisis is at the heart of it all.
Experience and history matter when selecting a candidate for POTUS.

[stonecutter357]

38. .

[brush]

46. This is a blatant attack on Biden, a Democrat.

Just face it, without only Hillary to vilify, Sanders seems like a "been there, done that" 2016 aftermath. Let's move on.

[onetexan]

52. The poster's a Sanders camper

'Nough said

[JustAnotherGen]

56. Heroin users / use don't register with me

THe opioid "crisis" hasn't impacted me - so the candidates history and position on it is of little value to my decision making process.

[emmaverybo]

57. The logical fallacy at the heart of this article is blatant. It ignores the context in which Biden

authored the crime bill, and it makes huge leaps to bring together some of the unintended consequences of the bill with the current opioid epidemic. I have addressed the context in other
responses, as well as some of the very good aspects of this multi-part legislation, for which Biden should have no shame.
The opioid epidemic can not be reduced to a result of a single piece of legislation from 25 years ago. The only reason to attempt to make such a case is to smear Biden.
So now not only is Joe Biden solely responsible for holding up the #MeToo movement, in other words, keeping the public from caring about or being aware of sex abuse against women, but he is the engineer of mass incarceration, and now the sinister agent of our latest, nationwide drug epidemic.
Bringing Len Bias in? My gawd, the article threw the kitchen sink at Biden.
Its premise, that if there’s consequences to crime, more and worse crime is created, so criminal acts should not be on the books, is plain stupid. Yes, so called friends and fellow partiers are afraid to call for help whether someone is on a pill or heroin, or alcohol, or opioid o.d. Ever has it been. And ever has it been that parents are stumped in making a case that sticks against a drug dealer or the person suspected of giving the kill shot.
The article adds up to sham claims and leaps of logic in its sum, but in its parts reveals a lack of common sense, criminal justice, the course of the opioid epidemic including its various factors.