***Sanders drops 10 points in latest A + Rated Monmouth Poll*** Big Joe 33 Bernie 15 Kamala 11

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Last edited Thu May 23, 2019, 01:34 PM - Edit history (1)

Among a field of 24 contenders, Biden currently has the support of 33% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning voters. This marks a small increase since he entered the race, from 27% in April and 28% in March. The rest of the field is tightly grouped below the clear front-runner position. Sanders has the support of 15% of Democratic-identifiers, which represents a decline over the past few months from 25% in March and 20% in April. Harris has 11% support, similar to 8% in April and 10% in March. Warren stands at 10%, compared to 6% in April and 8% in March.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_052319/

P.S. Shout out to Skya Rhen for pointing out this nugget-


19. How important is it to you that the Democrats nominate someone who will build on the legacy of Barack Obama – very important, somewhat important, not important, or are you not sure?


Very important 44%
Somewhat important 31%
Not important 18%
Not sure 7% (n) (334)

[comradebillyboy]

1. I hope the debates give Kamala a big boost.

Bernie is starting to look like toast.

[Celerity]

22. Harris & Warren seem to be surging, Pete is stalling, Bernie is falling, Biden is no longer surging

and is down to only 26% in the early states, and Klobuchar and Booker are gaining a bit.

I think IF a candidate is going to eventually overtake Biden, it will never be Sanders, and will come from one of those others listed, especially Harris or Warren. Stacey Abrams is the only wild card (candidate wise) left to either declare or say definitively 'not this time'. She would eat into Biden, Harris, Bernie, Warren's and Booker's numbers the most. Probably put the coffin nail into Bernie's campaign as well. AOC endorsing Warren would also doom Bernie. I would LOVE to see the NON DU Berners reaction if AOC goes all out for Sen. Warren. They will shit themselves, lololol.

The debates are going to be interesting.

[comradebillyboy]

26. I don't think Stacy Abrams is much of a threat to anybody. But

activists and pundits love her.

[Celerity]

32. I am not saying she has a path to the nomination, but if she goes full in she will definitely

affect the overall race. I have literally no idea what she is going to do. The four biggest primary variables atm are, IMHO

(in no order)

the debates

gaffe(s)/scandal(s) out of the blue

Abrams

who drops out and when and to whom those supporters gravitate towards

[madville]

44. She wouldn't get more than 2-3% overall

She might get over 5% in SC but that would be her best early state.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

72. Here's hoping Stacey runs... I think she would contribute greatly to the debate.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!

[Kahuna7]

35. They're giving her the Iron Stache treatment....

Is she impressive? Yes. Does she have the credentials or experience to be president? No! Not even a little bit.

[madville]

42. I agree

I don't really get it either but a few people on here are infatuated with her for some reason.

[DownriverDem]

49. Who can beat trump?

Biden

[Celerity]

53. he is not the only one

[Maru Kitteh]

31. I hope they do too. I would love to see KH on either spot of the ticket.

She's amazing.

[Cha]

109. Aloha, Maru!

Link to tweet

[Maru Kitteh]

110. Mahalo Cha!

I'll just leave this image right here.

[Cha]

111. Awww!

[nini]

107. She'll shine in those debates

I can't wait.

[BannonsLiver]

2. The bottom is falling out!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Not a Tom Petty fan?

[oldsoftie]

18. HA!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. That song is iconic. I live about ten blocks from Ventura Blvd.

[oldsoftie]

69. Cool! My 1st visit to CA i was able to see that video filming at the mall.

The girl in that video was supposed to become my wife.
Unfortunately nobody ever told HER.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

70. The mall the film was shot in wasn't in the Valley.

The Cadillac dealership which was on Ventura Blvd is gone.

[berni_mccoy]

39. Not a fan of re-posting stuff that has been posted and bashing Bernie at the same time

I don't think he's the candidate this time, but I see no point in rubbing it in to alienate his supporters. The hate you have is only going to make things worse.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. "Not a fan of re-posting stuff that has been posted and bashing Bernie at the same time"

"Not a fan of re-posting stuff that has been posted and bashing Bernie at the same time"

I am sure I am the first person to post this poll, not sure, but one hundred percent certain.

The hate you have is only going to make things worse.

Like this:


While participating in a town hall meeting about economic justice, Sanders criticized the “business model” of the Democratic Party over the last 15 years. He reportedly said, as the Daily Dot points out, that many don’t see the Democratic Party’s failures because “there was a charismatic individual named Barack Obama. He was obviously an extraordinary candidate, brilliant guy.” He also pointed out how Democrats lost a record number of seats in the House and Senate during Obama’s presidency.
Bernie Sanders Faces Backlash for Criticizing Obama on Anniversary of MLK Assassination

https://www.complex.com/life/2018/04/bernie-sanders-faces-backlash-after-criticizing-obama-on-the-anniversary-of-mlk-assassination/


BTW, Democrats seem to be very happy with the legacy of President Obama:

19. How important is it to you that the Democrats nominate someone who will build on the legacy of Barack Obama – very important, somewhat important, not important, or are you not sure?


Very important 44%
Somewhat important 31%
Not important 18%
Not sure 7% (n) (334)

[Skya Rhen]

46. POC know about BS and his condescending remarks about Obama, which is why he polls low

with them, consistently...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. The bottom line is we have a right to like who we want.

[Skya Rhen]

52. Exactly...

[BlueWI]

86. Actually, in poll results yesterday, he was second among black voters.

22% among black men.

POC voters can speak for themselves.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

91. He's polling at 15% among African Americans.

Ms. Wren was speaking from her own experience, as we all do.

[BlueWI]

93. No one is disputing rights.

And even as a POC, it's important not to over generalize about viewpoints within our own communities. We should be especially avoid this habit as Democrats and progressives.

[George II]

66. Sanders has expressed his disdain for both Barack Obama and the Democratic Party more than once....

...over the years. He even thought that Obama should be primaried in 2012. But I'm glad that 3/4 of the Democrats polled here think Obama's legacy is important.

[DownriverDem]

50. What about

the BS folks who attack Biden here?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

58. And more important on social media.

The attacks on Joe Biden by surrogates of a certain candidate are brutal and far more damaging than my posting of a poll.

[we can do it]

80. This, exactly.

And his staff🤮

[LanternWaste]

56. Seems at this point, you're simply throwing out allegations in the hopes one sticks.

Maybe support those allegations with evidence (links to the original post you imply), or evidence of hatred rather than (at worst) simple bemusement with the polling data.

Pretending hate when it doesn't exist seems rather melodramatic, unsubstantive and a wee bit hysterical.

[Skya Rhen]

59. Yes, that post was uncalled for and very inappropriate - no place for that here...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

65. "A good name is better than precious ointment." - Ecclesiastes 7:1

Why would you make such a hurtful comment. What have I ever done to you?

[Cha]

67. Tell that to BS..

Bernie: ‘My Opponents’ Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates ‘Regardless of What They Stand For

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211722251

So, Senator Sanders is dissing Democrats again on MTP?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=125702

On 'Meet the Press' today Bernie Sanders repeatedly slammed the "Democratic establishment"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=125571

Link to tweet

[DemocratSinceBirth]

68. I'm a lover , not a hater.

[Chakaconcarne]

74. Precisely...

I anticipated the tone before I even opened the link.

[Cha]

82. Like we "anticipate" this "tone"?

Bernie: ‘My Opponents’ Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates ‘Regardless of What They Stand For

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211722251

So, Senator Sanders is dissing Democrats again on MTP?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=125702

On 'Meet the Press' today Bernie Sanders repeatedly slammed the "Democratic establishment"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=125571

Link to tweet

[DemocratSinceBirth]

112. Good morning.

[George II]

87. Here's my all time favorite Tom Petty song:

[George II]

5. Summarizing:

Biden 33% from 27% +6
Sanders 15% from 25% -10
Harris 11% from 8% +3
Warren 10% from 6% +4

[Skya Rhen]

6. Wow!!!

[NurseJackie]

19. SMH ... that's quite a plummet!

[Celerity]

24. yes, let us hope it continues, the further he drops, the better ALL our other candidates chances are

to beat Trump, as we will have less haemorrhage in terms of defection votes from Berners (fewer to defect). Based off previous deep dives, a huge chunk of his supporters are not even Democratic voters anyway.

[Maru Kitteh]

40. Your statement here could not be more pointedly accurate. The earlier Bernie drops, the better

for the nominee and the party to topple Trump. Ultimately, better for the nation and the planet.


This ain't no party . .
This ain't no disco . .
This ain't no foolin' around . ..

[Tarheel_Dem]

61. No one else has lost as much ground as BS. I'd be interested to know the reason. n/t

[Thekaspervote]

83. You can google it.. his net negatives are increasing while his favorability is decreasing

[Tarheel_Dem]

98. But that's just it. What's made his unfavorables so high? Did he say something? Did he do something

that would account for his cratering poll numbers? Or are people just over him?

[Hortensis]

101. Lol and probably both. In name recognition polling,

1% hadn't heard of Biden, 2% of Sanders. The others were significantly lower.

So that explains a large part of why Sanders was doing so much better than more obscure candidates initially. People eager for election day to get here so they can vote against Trump were giving positives to virtually every name on the list, but ones they actually recognized got gold stars.

Now people are starting to look at the candidates. Other polls are showing these changes have been showing up earlier in early-primary state, where voters are looking closer sooner. Sanders is dropping on that polling also, as is Biden but more mildly and still way ahead; and as expected, losses from both are benefiting the next 3 or more candidates, but from Sanders especially.

Interesting to watch. Sanders of course comes with a small group of Sanders-or-Democrats-can-drop-dead types, so whatever their number is, his percentage presumably can't drop below that while he's still running.

[Tarheel_Dem]

102. You may be right, but it's such a dramatic drop, I'm having trouble wrapping my head around it.

[Hortensis]

103. Only makes sense to wonder. One poll is only one poll

anyway, and it'll be obsolete tomorrow no matter what.

[Tarheel_Dem]

104. Even if other polls don't show as dramatic a drop, there's a definite trend, and it's not in....

Sanders' favor.

[Hortensis]

105. Yes. They're all showing variations on that trend.

I imagine he'll remain in and get an outside share of media coverage until the bitter end, though, with whatever help is needed to make that possible.

[Cha]

85. BS must not be winning

hearts and minds with all his bashing of the Democratic Party.

We know Sirota, Grey, and Turner are advising him.

Bernie: ‘My Opponents’ Want Black, White, Gay, Latino or Women Candidates ‘Regardless of What They Stand For

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211722251

So, Senator Sanders is dissing Democrats again on MTP?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=125702

On 'Meet the Press' today Bernie Sanders repeatedly slammed the "Democratic establishment"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=125571

[Tiggeroshii]

7. Negligible

They have both decreased slightly in the poll averages. Biden still has the most to lose. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. Only a flesh wound.

[SunSeeker]

10. LOL

[Madtown]

16. Tis but a scratch...

[George II]

20. See post #13....

[oasis]

76. "'Tis not so deep as a well, nor so wide as a door....but

ask for him in September and you shall find him a GRAVE man".

My apologies to Mercutio.

[Madtown]

97. Don't count your chickens

[Tiggeroshii]

11. Or not a wound at all, considering there have been no debates and we are still more than 9 months

until the first primary.

[BannonsLiver]

14. Wait till the voters get to know Bernie!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. As a new entrant his popularity is sure to go up as he become better known

[George II]

13. Classic:

[Tiggeroshii]

15. LOL

They haven't even met to do battle yet.

[Kahuna7]

36. A mere scratch...

[NurseJackie]

23. Sure, Jan.

7. Negligible

Yes, a ten point drop is "negligible"... okayyyyy! Sure, fine.

[George II]

27. Within the margin of error.

[NurseJackie]

34. I hAvE sEeN tHaT bEfOrE tOo!

[Kahuna7]

37. Just old people using land lines...

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

73. No question Tig... I ROFLMFAO every time some here pull out the tape to start measuring the drapes!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!

[stonecutter357]

9. K&R

[SunSeeker]

12. Nice bump in numbers for Harris and Warren!

[Celerity]

25. +1

[Politicub]

63. Was great to see!

[SidDithers]

28. Good..nt

Sid

[redstatebluegirl]

29. When you have great candidates to compare him with

many of whom are very progressive, he just looks like a grumpy old guy who thinks it is his turn.

[Skya Rhen]

30. Interesting info from the poll regarding Obama's legacy...

19. How important is it to you that the Democrats nominate someone who will build on the legacy of Barack Obama – very important, somewhat important, not important, or are you not sure?


Very important 44%
Somewhat important 31%
Not important 18%
Not sure 7% (n) (334)

[George II]

57. That's pretty amazing - 75% think it's somewhat or very important.

[peggysue2]

33. Interesting stats from question 19

The importance of a candidate expanding President Obama's legacy: from very important to somewhat important =:

75% of those asked.

That by itself goes a long way in explaining Joe Biden's consistent poll numbers and why Bernie's numbers have been sinking. The Democratic/Democratic-leaning electorate wants a candidate to build on what we accomplished over President Obama's 8 years, not overturn the applecart.

Revolution is not a popular rally cry.

[cwydro]

38. Lol, I wanted to post that song a few days ago!

I’m terrible with links, so thank you!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. What was the occasion?

My favorite Tom Petty song:

[honest.abe]

41. Bernie is dropping like a rock and about to hit bottom.

It would be advisable for him to drop out before he hits bottom to at least go out on a somewhat high note. But perhaps he ego wont allow that and will prefer to duke it out until the bitter end.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

75. "dropping like a rock"? "hit bottom"? "drop out"? Riiiiiiight... surrrrre!! LOL!!

Bernie's not goin' ANYWHERE ANYTIME soon!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!

[honest.abe]

78. Perhaps you are right but..

once the money dries up he might be forced to call it quits.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

94. YES and, of course abe, you're right about THAT... then again, that's true of ANY candidate.

Anyway, I wish you candidate the best of luck... may the best one win! Then we all vote blue, no matter who!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!

[democratisphere]

45. Voters are getting real.

[DesertRat]

54. I'm surprised to see Beto's decline

Despite numerous recent tv interviews and a good performance at the CNN town hall the other night. He's dropped here on DU as well.

[dalton99a]

64. The poll was taken before his CNN townhall

[DesertRat]

81. Okay thanks

I should have looked more closely at when the poll was taken.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

77. Not surprising at all... disappointing, yes, as I had high hopes for Beto at first.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!

[EveHammond13]

55. this is going to stir up the hornet's nest for sure

[Gothmog]

60. K&R

[mahannah]

62. Polls suck. Vote.

[yaesu]

71. A friend of mine goes by "big joe" but he's only 5' 2" nt

[we can do it]

79. Love the song! Real democrats surge!

[BlueWI]

84. Why do these headlines only refer to Sanders?

Does this serve any useful purpose? We can all read the totals, and there are many candidates of interest.

Carry on, I guess.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

88. Here's a suggestion. We all get to post what we want.

Carry on, I guess.

I will.

[BlueWI]

90. Hence, carry on. n/t

[DemocratSinceBirth]

92. Thank you.

[Cha]

89. Because it's news. He was

"leading" not too long ago.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

95. He went from 25% to 15%

That seems like news.

[Cha]

96. It's huge news,

in my view!

[Skya Rhen]

99. And I greatly appreciate your updates - always eagerly keep a lookout for them each day

Please keep them coming...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

100. Just check here a few times a day

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

[Skya Rhen]

106. Thanks for this...

[Scurrilous]

108. K&R