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Afghanistan Vet Mayor Pete Buttigieg Says Trump Faked a Disability to Get Out of Vietnam
Democratic hopeful said the president used his privileged status to avoid the draft and send someone else to war in his place.
Scott Bixby
05.23.19 11:32 AM ET
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Costa then asked Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, if Trump should have served.
As the audience chucked, Buttigieg protested that the dig was not meant as a joke.
If he were a conscientious objector, Id admire that, Buttigieg said. But this is somebody who, I think its fairly obvious to most of us, took advantage of the fact that he was the child of a multi-millionaire in order to pretend to be disabled so that somebody could go to war in his place.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)NRA republican fake tuFFy-boy, Teddy Nugent. They both earned their status as republican chickenhawks the old fashioned republican way: lying.
* aka Dirty Donny (R)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue Owl
(50,349 posts)But he did shit his DIAPER...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
keithbvadu2
(36,775 posts)Last edited Fri May 24, 2019, 10:45 AM - Edit history (1)
https://www.veteranstodayarchives.com/2012/04/21/ted-nugent-and-romney-the-cluck-cluck-gang-mama-does-their-fightin/Id make an incredible army man. Id be a colonel before you knew what hit you, and Id have the baddest bunch of motherf****n killers youd ever seen in my platoon. But I just wasnt into it. I was too busy doin my own thing, you know.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MasonDreams
(756 posts)You don't get promoted past private if you're an egocentric blowhard. Serving is an honor and a privilege, the person that does it well, has to have character. Go do your own thing, and quit showing it to nuns.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)still, I cannot blame anyone for not wanting to die for nothing in Vietnam. I supported Bill Clinton even when those around me were calling him a draft dodger, feeling that military experience is not a necessary prerequisite for the presidency.
And as for the people who went to war in his place, I blame LBJ and Nixon for that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)avoided the draft and someone like trump who essentially made fun of those who served by saying that avoiding STDs was his Vietnam.
Most of those who avoided the draft for Vietnam seriously opposed the war. Trump only opposed being inconvenienced.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)that was a very flippant and hurtful comment he made, no doubt about it.
But being drafted was not merely "inconvenient". It meant going off to very probably die in a war that the US had no damned business being in, and no effective plan to win decisively. I cannot fault anyone for wanting to preserve their life, no matter how selfish it looked at the time or today.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)but most young men didn't have the luxury of having his daddy buy him out of it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)but many others used college as a way to get out of Vietnam. And grade inflation kept them there. I wasn't quite draft age, but very nearly so. I went into higher education with this phenomenon fully in place.
Trump has many, many more faults than this, we should focus on them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
crazytown
(7,277 posts)didn't really know what sort of hell was waiting for them in SE Asia. My cousin was drafted. When he came back he wouldn't talk about it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)My friends and relatives were going to Vietnam (as a female, I was not eligible for the draft). My husband at the time was in the National Guard, which was only a barely honorable way to avoid the draft. I know there is still a lot of resentment from those who had to go against those who found a way out.
I totally agree, though. Trump has plenty of other stuff to pick on but this once again shows what a liar and cheat he is. I don't think any candidate should fail to be honest about his/her feelings if asked.
I hated the Vietnam War and still put a lot of blame on LBJ. The good things he did are always overshadowed by it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,247 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)Instead of pretending that he's tough and brave.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
keithbvadu2
(36,775 posts)"A great and very brave soldier"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,247 posts)etc while wrapping his ugly ass in the flag .
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)That was a devastating rejoinder.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)And feels blessed when he gets away with it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden