
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:38 AM
mtnsnake (22,236 posts)
If Joe Biden gets invited to do a Fox News town hall, do you think he should accept the invitation?
Buttigieg, Gillibrand, Klobuchar, and Sanders have already accepted.
Booker, Castro, Delaney, O'Rourke, and Swalwell said they would accept if invited. Harris and Warren refused. Do you think Joe Biden should do a Fox town hall if they invite him to do one?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
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Author | Time | Post |
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mtnsnake | May 2019 | OP |
hlthe2b | May 2019 | #1 | |
Gothmog | May 2019 | #2 | |
elleng | May 2019 | #3 | |
NurseJackie | May 2019 | #4 | |
brooklynite | May 2019 | #25 | |
InAbLuEsTaTe | May 2019 | #27 | |
NurseJackie | May 2019 | #34 | |
Downtown Hound | May 2019 | #5 | |
Funtatlaguy | May 2019 | #6 | |
we can do it | May 2019 | #7 | |
Kahuna7 | May 2019 | #8 | |
Politicub | May 2019 | #9 | |
TreasonousBastard | May 2019 | #17 | |
customerserviceguy | May 2019 | #36 | |
Control-Z | May 2019 | #43 | |
Politicub | May 2019 | #49 | |
RelativelyJones | May 2019 | #10 | |
Little Star | May 2019 | #11 | |
TheCowsCameHome | May 2019 | #12 | |
cwydro | May 2019 | #13 | |
brush | May 2019 | #16 | |
samnsara | May 2019 | #30 | |
Drunken Irishman | May 2019 | #55 | |
brush | May 2019 | #14 | |
murielm99 | May 2019 | #15 | |
underpants | May 2019 | #18 | |
billpolonsky | May 2019 | #19 | |
Doitnow | May 2019 | #38 | |
InAbLuEsTaTe | May 2019 | #53 | |
mtnsnake | May 2019 | #65 | |
abqtommy | May 2019 | #20 | |
IluvPitties | May 2019 | #21 | |
MoonRiver | May 2019 | #22 | |
InAbLuEsTaTe | May 2019 | #31 | |
Golden Raisin | May 2019 | #23 | |
Cousin Dupree | May 2019 | #24 | |
samnsara | May 2019 | #26 | |
beachbum bob | May 2019 | #28 | |
scardycat | May 2019 | #63 | |
GemDigger | May 2019 | #29 | |
LakeArenal | May 2019 | #54 | |
nevergiveup | May 2019 | #32 | |
trev | May 2019 | #33 | |
still_one | May 2019 | #35 | |
Mike Nelson | May 2019 | #37 | |
TheRealNorth | May 2019 | #42 | |
WheelWalker | May 2019 | #39 | |
Comatose Sphagetti | May 2019 | #40 | |
oasis | May 2019 | #41 | |
Amimnoch | May 2019 | #44 | |
Name removed | May 2019 | #45 | |
highplainsdem | May 2019 | #46 | |
W_HAMILTON | May 2019 | #47 | |
madville | May 2019 | #48 | |
Deb | May 2019 | #50 | |
Kurt V. | May 2019 | #51 | |
stonecutter357 | May 2019 | #52 | |
Thekaspervote | May 2019 | #56 | |
Eric J in MN | May 2019 | #57 | |
Hoyt | May 2019 | #58 | |
robbedvoter | May 2019 | #59 | |
nini | May 2019 | #60 | |
demosincebirth | May 2019 | #61 | |
SidDithers | May 2019 | #62 | |
ucrdem | May 2019 | #64 |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:40 AM
hlthe2b (84,145 posts)
1. I think he will do it. Not sure if he should but they are going to attack him regardless so...
at least some of the audience will see a very different Biden than what their own propagandists claim.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:42 AM
Gothmog (92,162 posts)
2. No
Biden should ignore fox news
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as Gothmog.
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Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:45 AM
elleng (104,606 posts)
3. Yes, and anyone else invited should do so.
We must be seen WIDELY.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:47 AM
NurseJackie (37,585 posts)
4. Absolutely not. Fox News needs to be marginalized and de-legitimized. Fuck them.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to NurseJackie (Reply #4)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:20 PM
brooklynite (68,626 posts)
25. How do you propose to "de-legitimze" them?
Viewers (including Democrats and Independents) won't look upon a Democratic candidate's avoidance as a sign that they shouldn't watch.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to brooklynite (Reply #25)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:25 PM
InAbLuEsTaTe (23,141 posts)
27. Seriously...its viewers had been watchin up to this point without its hosting Democratic townhalls.
![]() Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!! Welcome to the revolution!!! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to brooklynite (Reply #25)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:36 PM
NurseJackie (37,585 posts)
34. Nobody said they would.
Last edited Sun May 26, 2019, 01:16 PM - Edit history (1) Viewers (including Democrats and Independents) won't look upon a Democratic candidate's avoidance as a sign that they shouldn't watch. Nobody said they would. But, you never know. It's more likely that a candidate's REJECTION of Fox News would do that, compared to a candidate treating Fox News as if they were anything other than the RW propaganda machine that they actually are. Why deny it? Why be contrary?
25. How do you propose to "de-legitimze" them? Exactly as I said. By not bothering to show up in the first place. Why give them a little "feather" to display in their MAGA cap? Fox News is a cesspool. Why voluntarily swim in a cesspool? It serves no good purpose for a candidate to stoop so low and denigrate themselves, or to do things that cause their standards or integrity to be questioned.
![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:48 AM
Downtown Hound (12,394 posts)
5. No. It's time to start giving those assholes the finger.
This is the age of social media. There are plenty of other ways to get the message out without pandering to the worst that media has to offer.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:49 AM
Funtatlaguy (8,726 posts)
6. Usually a front runner takes fewer chances. So, no.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:50 AM
we can do it (9,404 posts)
7. No.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:56 AM
Kahuna7 (2,531 posts)
8. No. nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:56 AM
Politicub (11,163 posts)
9. I don't really care. It doesn't matter either way.
I don't think it will gain votes nor do I think it will lose votes.
The argument about Fox using democrats to make the network more palatable to advertisers is more of an opinion than based in fact. As far as I can tell, no advertiser has returned to Fox after stopping their ads recently based on Pirro, Hannity and Carlson's noxious comments. My opinion is that turning down Fox became a purity test for progressives more than something to attract republicans. And I hate HATE purity tests. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Politicub (Reply #9)
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:22 AM
TreasonousBastard (37,182 posts)
17. Agree!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Politicub (Reply #9)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:47 PM
customerserviceguy (25,167 posts)
36. Well said
Should Joe Biden be the one raising his right hand on 01/20/21, he knows that Job 1 will be to try to reunite the country. And, yes, that means saying that he is the president of red-state America, too.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Politicub (Reply #9)
Sun May 26, 2019, 03:01 PM
Control-Z (15,562 posts)
43. Purity tests, as with pledges, are usually failed and/or
Last edited Sun May 26, 2019, 04:08 PM - Edit history (1) broken by the politicians who are most anxious to sign the pledge or make the promise in the first place, it seems. And when it happens it may cause some angst and infighting but is then quickly forgotten as a reason to or not to vote for someone.
Big waste of time, at best, imo. You can be sure that Republicans will use it against us though, if they can. ETA: Fixed a typo. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Control-Z (Reply #43)
Sun May 26, 2019, 04:04 PM
Politicub (11,163 posts)
49. Yes to everything in your post!
There's no benefit to the nominee -- only risk -- to indulge in purity pledges.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:57 AM
RelativelyJones (892 posts)
10. Yes. I'm with Bill Maher on this.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:57 AM
Little Star (17,055 posts)
11. Nope!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:01 AM
TheCowsCameHome (39,945 posts)
12. Yes.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:05 AM
cwydro (42,194 posts)
13. Yes.
I was originally against our candidates going on FOX. I despise FOX.
But, we never know who we might reach. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden This is the DU member formerly known as cwydro.
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Response to cwydro (Reply #13)
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:17 AM
brush (33,960 posts)
16. Who is he going to reach, all three anit-trump repugs?
I don't think Joe will give that repug propaganda network license to try to legitimize itself as an actual news outlet.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to cwydro (Reply #13)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:27 PM
samnsara (14,256 posts)
30. after Mayor Pete got a standing ovation.. i think they are hungry for normalcy too...
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to samnsara (Reply #30)
Sun May 26, 2019, 06:13 PM
Drunken Irishman (34,024 posts)
55. Were those even FOX Viewers or just audience participants?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:13 AM
brush (33,960 posts)
14. No, and he won't accept.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:14 AM
murielm99 (27,502 posts)
15. NO.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:40 AM
underpants (160,520 posts)
18. Yes. The more air time he better.
That was the key for Trump free advertising
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:49 AM
billpolonsky (270 posts)
19. I think...
...it's important to reach as many people as possible even if they are in the "enemy camp"..
People who voted for Trump are leaving the sinking ship now is the time to put your point across to those voters. Like Barack Obama was, a real president is a President of all American people. A fact that Donald Trump doesn't seem to understand. I'd like to see Joe Biden and all Democratic candidates reach out to as many people as possible in this election. Let them see what real possibilities Democratic candidates offer. My 2 cents. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to billpolonsky (Reply #19)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:55 PM
Doitnow (1,103 posts)
38. Another point of view is.....
Last edited Sun May 26, 2019, 07:57 PM - Edit history (1) I take it as a challenge and an opportunity to point out the harm Trump Party is doing to our country and the world. The Trump people certainly won't get this information when all they listen to is Fox. If our candidates can't debate the people on Fox, what will they be like when confronted with Trump in a debate who probably won't show even up for debates in the general.) He may say he's so far ahead, he doesn't have to appear.
Bernie got lots of credit for his appearance. It took courage. That's what is needed in a leader. Bernie seems to be good at that. A leader, I'd say. As far as his just repeating the same old thing all the time. Well, the SAME old problems are still around and they are all coming to a head at the same time. It's no time to be wishy-washy. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to Doitnow (Reply #38)
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:53 PM
InAbLuEsTaTe (23,141 posts)
53. Exactly right!! Rethugz will falsely accuse Joe of being scared to go on Fux...
and wrongly question his ability to handle foreign powers menacing the world if he won't even do a Faux News town hall, like many of his Democratic colleagues. Though I don't agree it SHOULD be, that WILL be the argument, which, therefore, should be avoided at all costs.
![]() Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!! Welcome to the revolution!!! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to billpolonsky (Reply #19)
Mon May 27, 2019, 07:03 AM
mtnsnake (22,236 posts)
65. "Like Barack Obama was, a real president is a President of all American people."
Nice post with some excellent points that make total sense.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:51 AM
abqtommy (8,238 posts)
20. NOPE!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:52 AM
IluvPitties (3,181 posts)
21. Yes. No fear.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:56 AM
MoonRiver (35,038 posts)
22. Yes, because it would totally infuriate IQ45!
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to MoonRiver (Reply #22)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:27 PM
InAbLuEsTaTe (23,141 posts)
31. Best.Reason.Ever!!
![]() Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!! Welcome to the revolution!!! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:01 PM
Golden Raisin (4,164 posts)
23. No.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:15 PM
Cousin Dupree (1,777 posts)
24. Absolutely! Donnie's annoyance level that this would cause would be awesome to see.
And you never know. He may get through to some people who are on the fence.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:24 PM
samnsara (14,256 posts)
26. yep..
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:26 PM
beachbum bob (10,437 posts)
28. I think he should and crucify foxnews and their people at every chance in comparison of the
treatment they gave Obama vs trump.
He will score big points ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to beachbum bob (Reply #28)
Mon May 27, 2019, 03:20 AM
scardycat (159 posts)
63. Beachbum bob..I agree n/t
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:26 PM
GemDigger (3,903 posts)
29. Each candidate has valid reasons to do or not do. Whether they do or don't doesn't matter to me
nor what I think should matter to them. They are individually unique and that is what makes each of them, them. If they all do the same thing then they are all the same and no need to have an election, just pull a name out of a hat.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to GemDigger (Reply #29)
Sun May 26, 2019, 06:01 PM
LakeArenal (16,544 posts)
54. That's what I think.
Joe can do whatever he thinks best. It’s his campaign.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:29 PM
nevergiveup (4,240 posts)
32. I have been a "no" on this but
have changed my mind. I say go for it. It drives Trump crazy!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:30 PM
trev (1,480 posts)
33. Yes.
I think all the Dems should go on Fox. It's the only place and time the Reps will hear us.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:38 PM
still_one (76,815 posts)
35. I did not think he should, but I think he will if asked
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 12:54 PM
Mike Nelson (7,625 posts)
37. First of all...
… this is not a deal-breaker, for me. Some have decided to do one, and some have not... they decide what is best for their campaigns and use FOX to achieve their ends. I'm okay with their different decisions.
… given that, down to specifics. Biden is a different case, because he is the front-runner. So far, he has avoided events that would place him in a direct hit of challenging questions from the likes of Chris Wallace or random audience members. He will need to get these done, in order to prepare... so, I think he should ask himself, "Am I ready for this?" because FOX will want to "take him down" for Crooked Donald. If he feels like he's ready to do something live and challenging, go for it... if he thinks not, don't. ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #37)
Sun May 26, 2019, 02:43 PM
TheRealNorth (2,970 posts)
42. Good answer
Fox will be gunning for him- so he better prepare for questions and other shit that will try to drive wedges between him and women, people of color (Anita Hill).
I kinda agree with the idea that we shouldn't legitimize Faux News, but if a candidate wants to try it's not huge issue for me. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 01:15 PM
WheelWalker (7,824 posts)
39. After he's the party's candidate, yes.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 02:11 PM
Comatose Sphagetti (813 posts)
40. Yes
Fox viewers have been conditioned to believe anyone with a "D" after their name is Satan incarnate (and that is not hyperbole).
An interview provides the opportunity to prove them wrong. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 02:19 PM
oasis (46,850 posts)
41. Think: Julius Caesar surrounded by senators "ides of March".
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 03:04 PM
Amimnoch (4,558 posts)
44. Highly experienced statesman. I don't care,
Whatever he decides it will be done with much thought, consideration, and be the best for the campaign and the party as a whole.
I will trust in his highly experienced judgement. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
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Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 03:18 PM
highplainsdem (33,337 posts)
46. No.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 03:31 PM
W_HAMILTON (4,275 posts)
47. He probably will accept. I think he should not.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 03:37 PM
madville (5,201 posts)
48. Absolutely
It would be stupid to not do it, avoiding Fox makes a candidate look weak and scared.
How is a President going to go toe-to-toe with Putin if they can't even face the right wing here? Besides, Joe's platform is Unity-based, unifying everyone, that means you have to speak to everyone and Fox is the best platform for that. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:42 PM
Deb (3,571 posts)
50. Hell no. Make them beg for it like Pelosi is making them beg for impeachment.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:44 PM
Kurt V. (5,624 posts)
51. no. nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 05:47 PM
stonecutter357 (12,122 posts)
52. no !
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 06:14 PM
Thekaspervote (17,743 posts)
56. NO!! Fux guided by gopeee will later twist any dem candidates words into something unrecognizable
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 06:18 PM
Eric J in MN (35,604 posts)
57. I would watch.
As a supporter of another candidate, I can’t say what Joe Biden should do to try to win the nomination.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 06:19 PM
Hoyt (47,834 posts)
58. Yes. Avoiding white wing TV doesn't do us any good. I bet Biden
will do well, just like the other candidates who have appeared on FOX.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 06:38 PM
robbedvoter (28,242 posts)
59. No
None of them should go on the Nazi TV.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:56 PM
nini (16,418 posts)
60. no
it's legitimizes the propaganda network.. just no.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:09 PM
demosincebirth (12,109 posts)
61. NO!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Sun May 26, 2019, 08:23 PM
SidDithers (44,076 posts)
62. No. Anyone who has done one has helped a racist propaganda network...nt
Sid
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to mtnsnake (Original post)
Mon May 27, 2019, 04:42 AM
ucrdem (15,502 posts)
64. No, and I don't think he will. In fact they probably won't ask.
They're nice to also-rans because they pose an obstacle to the actual Dem candidate. Since Biden is the likely candidate, and Fox loves Trump, they won't be as nice to Biden. He knows this, and he knows what Warren and Harris have said. Since he's doing fine without Fox, I think he'll find a polite way of declining publicly if he has to.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |