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Bernie Sanders returns home to reset 2020 presidential bid

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Three months after formally announcing a 2020 presidential bid in his birthplace of Brooklyn, U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders returned to his home state of Vermont on Saturday for a capital city rally planned as a morale-refueling pit stop as he aims to regain the lead in his Democratic primary race.

“In this pivotal and unprecedented moment in American history, I am here today to ask for your support,” he told a surprisingly underwhelming crowd of a few thousand supporters at a Statehouse event that campaign and city officials had anticipated would draw a larger audience of 3,000 to 5,000 people.

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Many Montpelier residents weren’t sure what Saturday’s program would serve up, what with a forecast for rain, flashing signs along Interstate 89 warning “Event at Statehouse/Expect Delays” and talk that locals were grocery shopping early as if the capital city was about to be hit by a storm.

Although several city officials and the press estimated the crowd at more than 1,000 supporters rather than the 3,000 to 5,000 anticipated, the Sanders campaign reported “our crowd count today was closer to 3,000.”

Whatever the number, attendees had enough room to unfold picnic blankets on the sun-splashed lawn as Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter Brandi Carlile performed as the opening act.


https://vtdigger.org/2019/05/25/bernie-sanders-returns-home-reset-2020-presidential-bid/
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lapucelle May 2019 OP
nolabear May 2019 #1
Docreed2003 May 2019 #3
George II May 2019 #6
Me. May 2019 #7
Docreed2003 May 2019 #8
Cha May 2019 #25
MineralMan May 2019 #38
FreeBe May 2019 #41
MineralMan May 2019 #43
FreeBe May 2019 #45
Blue_true May 2019 #61
we can do it May 2019 #2
George II May 2019 #4
customerserviceguy May 2019 #18
Kahuna7 May 2019 #21
peggysue2 May 2019 #27
Kahuna7 May 2019 #33
comradebillyboy May 2019 #37
Celerity May 2019 #58
bahrbearian May 2019 #23
susanr516 May 2019 #57
Agschmid May 2019 #5
riverine May 2019 #9
DavidDvorkin May 2019 #10
thesquanderer May 2019 #13
DavidDvorkin May 2019 #19
thesquanderer May 2019 #32
Kahuna7 May 2019 #22
FreeBe May 2019 #42
Kahuna7 May 2019 #49
FreeBe May 2019 #50
NurseJackie May 2019 #11
George II May 2019 #12
lapucelle May 2019 #14
George II May 2019 #15
NurseJackie May 2019 #17
ehrnst May 2019 #35
Politicub May 2019 #20
Cha May 2019 #24
NurseJackie May 2019 #26
FreeBe May 2019 #44
calguy May 2019 #53
betsuni May 2019 #30
NurseJackie May 2019 #31
FreeBe May 2019 #34
NurseJackie May 2019 #36
FreeBe May 2019 #46
MrsCoffee May 2019 #39
NurseJackie May 2019 #40
FreeBe May 2019 #47
Kahuna7 May 2019 #52
yaesu May 2019 #16
Gothmog May 2019 #28
lapucelle May 2019 #29
Honeycombe8 May 2019 #48
brooklynite May 2019 #59
comradebillyboy May 2019 #60
BannonsLiver May 2019 #51
lapucelle May 2019 #56
tishaLA May 2019 #54
lapucelle May 2019 #55

Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun May 26, 2019, 11:52 AM

1. I watched the speech. It was astonishingly limp.

 

I don’t say that to bash, I was curious since there was such a fan fest last time. This was just uninspired. Bernie was just Bernie but the crowd, the intros (Shaun King tried) was just wooden. And white and fairly but not astoundingly young. Maybe just Vermont.

The whole thing seems gassed out.
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Response to nolabear (Reply #1)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:00 PM

3. That's been my take this entire campaign

 

Bernie seems to be trying to recapture "the magic", of you will, of 2016 by...well, going about his campaign like it's 2016. Most of us have heard the stump speech or some variation of it previously and it's the same thing, every event.
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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #3)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:17 PM

6. Yogi Berra said it best:

 

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Response to George II (Reply #6)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:21 PM

7. ...

 

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Response to George II (Reply #6)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:32 PM

8. Lol...+1

 

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Response to nolabear (Reply #1)

Sun May 26, 2019, 02:54 PM

25. I've read it wasn't much better in

 

Birmingham, Alabama.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287126535
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Response to Cha (Reply #25)

Mon May 27, 2019, 10:15 AM

38. That was very interesting. Birmingham, AL is about 64.5% black.

 

You'd think some of its black population would show up for a Bernie Sanders rally there. I think I saw one or two PoC in the photos at that link, but that was it.

Clearly, the black community is not generally in support of Bernie Sanders, or more would have been there. I suppose if he became the Democratic nominee, PoC voters would vote for him, but many might not bother to turn out at all.

I think the Bernie Sanders campaign is running out of steam. Perhaps it ran out of steam after the 2016 convention, but didn't realize it.

Politics is fickle. What was interesting four years ago might not be very interesting now, especially with 24 candidates vying for people's votes.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #38)

Mon May 27, 2019, 12:49 PM

41. I read 73.4% in wikipedia.

 

According to the 2010 census:[15]

73.4% Black/African American
22.3% White
0.2% Native American
1.0% Asian
0.04% Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander
1.0% Two or more races
2.0% Other races
3.6% Hispanic or Latino (of any race)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birmingham,_Alabama
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Response to FreeBe (Reply #41)

Mon May 27, 2019, 12:53 PM

43. I might have looked at the 2000 data.

 

In any case, you'd expect to see some African-American attendees if there was any interest in Bernie Sanders. Apparently, there is not.
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Response to MineralMan (Reply #43)

Mon May 27, 2019, 12:55 PM

45. Right.

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #25)

Mon May 27, 2019, 11:16 PM

61. Bernie got to meet Dr. King's statue. nt

 

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun May 26, 2019, 11:53 AM

2. Not going to happen BS

 

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:11 PM

4. Only a thousand people showed up in his home state?

 

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Response to George II (Reply #4)

Sun May 26, 2019, 01:06 PM

18. I think he started tanking

 

when he called for voting rights for the Boston Marathon bomber. Most all of New England was sympathetic to "Boston Strong" in the days after the bombing, and to give that little puke anything other than three meals a day and a cold slab to sleep on is way too generous for him.
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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #18)

Sun May 26, 2019, 01:56 PM

21. Hmmm. I remember so many thought it was a fine idea.

 

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Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #21)

Sun May 26, 2019, 03:36 PM

27. A number on DU thought it was a fine idea

 

Out in the Hinterlands where the electorate actually lives? Not so much.

Said from the start it was a losing position. But oh no, we had to read umpteen justifications and freedom of speech rants and . . . whatever.

Stupid position, start to finish.
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Response to peggysue2 (Reply #27)

Sun May 26, 2019, 04:47 PM

33. ....

 

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Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #21)

Mon May 27, 2019, 10:00 AM

37. Only his fans thought it was a good idea.

 

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #18)

Mon May 27, 2019, 10:27 PM

58. I think the same thing, what a cock-up

 

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Response to George II (Reply #4)

Sun May 26, 2019, 02:10 PM

23. Small crowd in Vermont

 

he is tanking , all white people.
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Response to bahrbearian (Reply #23)

Mon May 27, 2019, 08:37 PM

57. The population of Vermont is almost 93% White, non-Hispanic

 

So, it doesn't surprise me that the crowd is all white. However, those Birmingham pictures certainly don't bode well for Bernie's future. If he can't get the votes of POC, Bernie has no chance in the D primaries here in the South. (I'm in TX.) I would assume he would face a similar predicament in the more heavily Hispanic states, like TX and CA.

I don't know, maybe it's my own bias, but I think presidential candidates over 70 are too old. I am a sr. citizen, btw.
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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:16 PM

5. Link?

 

Never mind I found it myself: https://vtdigger.org/2019/05/25/bernie-sanders-returns-home-reset-2020-presidential-bid/
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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:38 PM

9. Not much of a "revolution" if

 

you ask me.
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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:39 PM

10. Regain the lead?

 

When did he have the lead?
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Response to DavidDvorkin (Reply #10)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:48 PM

13. Before Biden was in the race (n/t)

 

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #13)

Sun May 26, 2019, 01:08 PM

19. According to what poll?

 

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Response to DavidDvorkin (Reply #19)

Sun May 26, 2019, 04:42 PM

32. Any poll of declared candidates. ;-) (n/t)

 

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #13)

Sun May 26, 2019, 01:58 PM

22. He didn't have it then either...

 

The Emerson poll showed him with a slight lead just before Biden announced, but that was a very rare occurrence.
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Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #22)

Mon May 27, 2019, 12:52 PM

42. I think since Biden hadn't entered yet, they are not counting Biden.

 

Sanders never had a lead with Biden that I ever saw.
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Response to FreeBe (Reply #42)

Mon May 27, 2019, 02:07 PM

49. One time. Like I said....

 

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Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #49)

Mon May 27, 2019, 02:07 PM

50. O.k.

 

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:43 PM

11. I see he's changed his campaign color scheme to GREEN. I wonder what that means.

 

Look at those signs in the crowd. Handed out by the rally organizers, obviously.

So... I see he's changed his campaign color scheme to GREEN. I wonder what that means. Is that part of the "reboot" and the change in messaging?

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:45 PM

12. Maybe he's planning a future run for Governor of the Green Mountain State?

 

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Response to George II (Reply #12)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:53 PM

14. What else could green mean? Maybe Briebrie should clarify.

 

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #14)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:56 PM

15. Perhaps Jill Stein will tap him as her running mate this time around?

 

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Response to George II (Reply #12)

Sun May 26, 2019, 01:02 PM

17. An excellent idea. I'm always in favor of setting challenging, yet REALISTIC realistic goals.

 

An excellent idea. I'm always in favor of setting challenging, yet REALISTIC realistic goals. That's something that I hope he considers.
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Response to George II (Reply #12)

Mon May 27, 2019, 06:53 AM

35. Perhaps this time around it will be better for him.

 

Hopefully, a woman won't run against him. That seems to get him into situtations where he makes gaffes.

There will likely be no person of color who would run against him, so there's that.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Sun May 26, 2019, 01:38 PM

20. Green new deal?

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Sun May 26, 2019, 02:50 PM

24. Separate himself from

 

the BlueWave?

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Response to Cha (Reply #24)

Sun May 26, 2019, 03:09 PM

26. He's separate all right. Not even a member of the party. Only votes with Dems 80% of the time...

 

He's separate all right. Not even a member of the party. Only votes with Dems 80% of the time.

Is he trying to (not so) subtly let us know that he's "green" instead of "blue"... if so that's fine. And, if that's what he's doing, it confirms what many have long suspected anyway. Truth-in-advertising as they say.

Personally, I'm not "green"... I'm not "red". I'm a true BLUE and honest-to-goodness DEMOCRAT! I'm not a pretend Democrat. I'm not in disguise. I'm not pretending to be something that I'm not.

I don't need to send "signals" or clues, or subtle messages, or secret signs. I'm a PROUD DEMOCRAT... TRUE BLUE ALL THE WAY!!


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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #26)

Mon May 27, 2019, 12:54 PM

44. I am even an establishment Democrat. Having established myself voting Democratic a lifetime.

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #26)

Mon May 27, 2019, 03:46 PM

53. If I had replied to this post NJ,

 

I would have said exactly what you just said. Except .... You said it much better than I ever could.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Sun May 26, 2019, 04:24 PM

30. Blue is establishment.

 

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Response to betsuni (Reply #30)

Sun May 26, 2019, 04:37 PM

31. Ha! Love it!

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Sun May 26, 2019, 11:11 PM

34. Between the green and the I, I think he has made it pretty clear to us Democrats.

 

That was bold.
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Response to FreeBe (Reply #34)

Mon May 27, 2019, 09:58 AM

36. Has the party been taken? Has the party been betrayed? Is he sending a message?

 

Between the green and the I, I think he has made it pretty clear to us Democrats.
Has the party been taken? Has the party been betrayed? Is he sending a message? Or is it just a meaningless "coincidence" that has absolutely nothing at all to do with the Green party?

I think voters can figure it out on their own, but and honest answer from the campaign is in order.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #36)

Mon May 27, 2019, 12:57 PM

46. Regardless of if trying to get the Stein votes, pisses me off once again setting himself separate

 

From Democrats while running in our Democratic primary asking for the Democratic base vote.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Mon May 27, 2019, 10:25 AM

39. That's intriguing.

 

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #39)

Mon May 27, 2019, 10:31 AM

40. Good to know that I'm not the ONLY one who feels this way.

 

Good to know that I'm not the ONLY one who feels this way. It's not just some "random" color choice because someone was bored with the previous color scheme.

The fact that he's changed his color scheme to GREEN(!!!) at a "reboot" event (well uh, a do-over) tells me that the BS campaign is keenly aware that it's lost its footing... that's it's faltering and floundering.

All I'm saying here (and I'm not the only one) is that if this was his big "reboot/do-over" event to energize and kick-start his failing campaign, then the GREEN(!!) color was intentional. It was BY DESIGN. It's yet another not-so-subtle slap in the face and insult to the Democratic party and to loyal Democrats.
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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #40)

Mon May 27, 2019, 12:59 PM

47. The color was intentional.

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Mon May 27, 2019, 02:17 PM

52. My guess is to associate subliminally with AOC and the GND. nt

 

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:56 PM

16. Sounds like a fun event, much better than the chit show my weekend turned out to be. nt

 

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Sun May 26, 2019, 04:12 PM

28. It sounds like the turnout was disappointing

 

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #28)

Sun May 26, 2019, 04:16 PM

29. Apparently people heard it might rain, and there was a run on the supermarkets.

 

Also many farmers couldn't take the day off because...farming.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Mon May 27, 2019, 01:08 PM

48. A reset is often the beginning of the end. nt

 

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #48)

Mon May 27, 2019, 10:41 PM

59. Usually the sign of that is when campaign staff leave...

 

Oh, right.....
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Response to brooklynite (Reply #59)

Mon May 27, 2019, 11:08 PM

60. What sane candidate would touch anyone on Bernie's campaign staff?

 

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Mon May 27, 2019, 02:10 PM

51. The thrill is gone

 

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Mon May 27, 2019, 08:01 PM

56. ...

 

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Mon May 27, 2019, 07:30 PM

54. .....

 

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Mon May 27, 2019, 07:59 PM

55. ....

 

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