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TexasTowelie

(112,128 posts)
Sun May 26, 2019, 09:39 PM May 2019

How Does Obama Feel About Biden's Candidacy? It's Complicated.

Early on the April morning when Joe Biden announced his latest presidential run, Barack Obama’s spokeswoman issued a rare statement. The message praised the former vice-president’s “knowledge, insight, and judgment,” and highlighted the pair’s “special bond.” But it stopped short of endorsing Biden’s campaign. Just a few days earlier, Biden had responded to a reporter’s question about his ideology by categorizing himself as an “Obama-Biden Democrat, man,” and when he launched his campaign, his political team — having discussed the plan with Obama’s staff to lean on this message and imagery — posted a photo to Instagram of Biden laughing with Obama and plastered Facebook with ads featuring the former president.

Just as those ads were surfacing, however, members of Obama’s inner circle were quietly insisting to anyone who asked that the ex-president — who’s among the most popular public figures in the country, who’s not eager to turn back into a political football, and who’s also long been loath to publicly wade into intra-Democratic Party fights — was highly unlikely to pick sides in the primary at all, let alone so early in a process overflowing with candidates.

One month into Biden’s bid, the uncomfortable sense that his wholehearted embrace of his beloved former boss is not entirely reciprocated has only intensified, and is now a central unspoken psychological drama of the early Democratic primary as the former vice-president invokes “Barack” daily and the former president remains silent. No one doubts that the two men remain extremely close, but their relationship has also always been personally, politically, and philosophically tangled. (One former senior Obama aide whom I asked about it sighed and said, “The relationship is steeped in complication. They’re obviously close, and there’s trust. But it’s complicated.”) And while Obama’s insistence on neutrality is consistent with his commitment to sticking to post–White House tradition, it inevitably hits his sidekick of eight years harder than anyone else in the race — the former vice-president’s implausible, and uncorroborated, claim that he asked Obama to stay out notwithstanding.

People close to Obama often note that he only rarely weighs in on Democratic primaries at any level, being genuinely wary of overtly handpicking winners. We know, though, what it looks like for him to try and steer a race toward a given candidate from behind the scenes. In public, Obama remained mostly quiet about the buildup to the 2016 election, but late in 2014 he called Hillary Clinton for a talk that’s seldom mentioned, and little known, even among leading Democrats now. The pair had already started discussing the upcoming race that spring, but now he had a message for the former secretary of State, according to four senior Democrats briefed on the conversation at the time. You should, at this point, really think seriously about running, he told her. And you should let me know what you’re thinking, because you’re Democrats’ best bet at keeping the White House. Meanwhile, Obama’s political brain trust was following the president’s lead — that fall, his top political adviser David Plouffe visited Clinton’s D.C. home, privately briefing her on what it would take.

Read more: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/05/joe-biden-and-barack-obamas-one-sided-embrace.html

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How Does Obama Feel About Biden's Candidacy? It's Complicated. (Original Post) TexasTowelie May 2019 OP
Biden was who Obama needed Skittles May 2019 #1
Obama picked him 11 years ago. Did you read the article? pnwmom May 2019 #8
so everybody knows obama will not take sides equals obama disdain for biden lol nt msongs May 2019 #2
The GOP is pushing that lie hard. Apparently so are some journalists and Democrats. highplainsdem May 2019 #11
Obama will endorse the nominee and not before. Lochloosa May 2019 #3
absolutely right. n/t MBS May 2019 #4
As it should be... props to Obama!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #5
Very interesting melman May 2019 #6
We already knew President Obama Cha May 2019 #7
+1 ucrdem May 2019 #9
Mahalo, ucr! Cha May 2019 #14
I don't really care what Obama thinks of Biden's candidacy. comradebillyboy May 2019 #10
That same NY Mag writer in January: Barack Obama isn't expected to endorse anyone in the primary. highplainsdem May 2019 #12
Thank You for that Cha May 2019 #13
President Obama is wise not to endorse any primary candidate. MineralMan May 2019 #15
 

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
1. Biden was who Obama needed
Sun May 26, 2019, 09:51 PM
May 2019

end of story

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pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
8. Obama picked him 11 years ago. Did you read the article?
Mon May 27, 2019, 05:47 AM
May 2019

It was known at the time, and the article mentions it, too, that Obama thought Biden was too old to have his own Presidential ambitions, and that that was a plus. He could concentrate more on being Obama's VP.

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msongs

(67,395 posts)
2. so everybody knows obama will not take sides equals obama disdain for biden lol nt
Sun May 26, 2019, 09:56 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
11. The GOP is pushing that lie hard. Apparently so are some journalists and Democrats.
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:40 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Lochloosa

(16,063 posts)
3. Obama will endorse the nominee and not before.
Sun May 26, 2019, 10:52 PM
May 2019

Protocol.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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MBS

(9,688 posts)
4. absolutely right. n/t
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:29 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
5. As it should be... props to Obama!!
Sun May 26, 2019, 11:51 PM
May 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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melman

(7,681 posts)
6. Very interesting
Mon May 27, 2019, 12:29 AM
May 2019

But not at all surprising.

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Cha

(297,154 posts)
7. We already knew President Obama
Mon May 27, 2019, 01:07 AM
May 2019

is not going to endorse anyone in the primary.. he will wait to see who our candidate is.

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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
9. +1
Mon May 27, 2019, 06:04 AM
May 2019

good summary Cha!

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Cha

(297,154 posts)
14. Mahalo, ucr!
Mon May 27, 2019, 05:39 PM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,143 posts)
10. I don't really care what Obama thinks of Biden's candidacy.
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:07 AM
May 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
12. That same NY Mag writer in January: Barack Obama isn't expected to endorse anyone in the primary.
Mon May 27, 2019, 11:49 AM
May 2019

See the first paragraph of this Jan. 25 column.

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/01/democratic-ex-presidents-expected-to-sit-out-2020-primaries.html

But hell, if you need to come up with a new column, why not just ignore what you wrote four months ago, and what everyone understands to be the case, so you can invent "a central unspoken psychological drama"? Even though the invented drama is crap.

Obama is doing what everyone expected him to do.

Biden is doing what he has every right to do, and what he'd be crazy NOT to do.

Btw, you DO realize, don't you, that if Biden downplayed his association with Obama, then his GOP opponents AND his critics in the media and in the Democratic Party would be slamming him for an alleged "repudiation" or "snub" of Obama?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,154 posts)
13. Thank You for that
Mon May 27, 2019, 05:38 PM
May 2019

highplainsdem!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
15. President Obama is wise not to endorse any primary candidate.
Tue May 28, 2019, 10:38 AM
May 2019

That's my opinion.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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