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Wed May 29, 2019, 08:40 PM

 

Pathetic. Incredibly snide tweet from Joy Reid about Joe Biden & his supporters.

I thought she'd seemed biased against Joe, but this snide gratuitous comment in a Twitter dialogue with Chris Hayes about Democratic risk aversion re impeachment proves it.

She got some negative responses she deserved, too.





But yes Democratic risk aversion is real. Exhibit A: Joe Biden's consistent polling lead, despite generating almost negative base enthusiasm beyond baby boomers longing for the status quo ante & Dems fearful of their Trumpy neighbors' aversion to anything but an elder white man.



Well, fellow Biden supporters...are you supporting Joe Biden because you're "fearful of your Trumpy neighbors' aversion to anything but an elder white man"?
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Reply Pathetic. Incredibly snide tweet from Joy Reid about Joe Biden & his supporters. (Original post)
highplainsdem May 2019 OP
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 08:46 PM

1. Disappointed in Joy for this, not surprised with Hayes, though. BTW, I'm an "elder white man"....

 

...who has been supporting REAL Democrats since the 1970s. Sorry.
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Response to George II (Reply #1)

Wed May 29, 2019, 08:49 PM

3. Hayes' bias has been obvious on his show. But in this thread he had been talking about impeachment,

 

and it was Joy who brought up Biden to take a nasty swipe at him and his supporters.
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Response to George II (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 18, 2019, 03:42 PM

114. This needs a kick.. right now!

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 08:48 PM

2. No!! Joy Reid is on my no list from now on

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 08:49 PM

4. Joy is wrong. the reason Biden has such high numbers is because he is doing will with minorities

 

that's the main reason he is leading.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 19, 2019, 08:31 AM

135. Exactly. I can't watch her show anymore because

 

She is so close-minded about Pelosi’s strategy and unwilling to acknowledge the fact you just pointed out.

The reality also is that, while every Dem needs the support of the Dem base, the base she is describing still is a minority of voters in general and in many states, a minority of Dem primary voters. While candidates should not waste time trying to win over the delusional Trump true believers, they must energize white, Latinx, and Asian-American Dems and independents, in addition to African American voters.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 08:50 PM

5. I just tweeted her..

 

Shame on you Joy Reid.. you have no idea what you're talking about re: Biden Supporters. But, carry on with your ignorance. Biden is leading with POC.. we have Symone Sanders and..

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Wed May 29, 2019, 08:53 PM

8. Wonder if you'll get an honest answer. Or one at all. nt

 

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #8)

Wed May 29, 2019, 08:58 PM

9. I doubt I'll get a reply..

 

but I hope she reads it.

I like Joy but she's wrong on this and needs to be told.
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Response to Cha (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 19, 2019, 03:58 AM

128. You go Cha! Admiration.

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #128)

Wed Jun 19, 2019, 04:06 AM

130. Backatcha, emmaverybo!

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:23 PM

34. Way to go Cha!

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:34 PM

37. Oh, yes. High five, Cha.

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:07 PM

78. Thank you for posting this

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Thu May 30, 2019, 05:09 PM

86. Cha, Thank you

 

For that picture. I need a new Avatar!
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Thu May 30, 2019, 05:58 PM

88. Cha for VP

 

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Fri May 31, 2019, 03:22 PM

102. Way to go, Cha!

 

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Tue Jun 18, 2019, 05:48 PM

118. Good job Cha!

 

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Response to Scurrilous (Reply #118)

Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:50 PM

119. She really didn't have

 

any idea what she was talking about.. I hate when pundits make pronouncements that have nothing to do with reality.

Thanks, Scurrilous!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 08:51 PM

6. Snide. Agreed.

 

When Reid subs for Rachel - I flip the channel.
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Response to empedocles (Reply #6)

Fri May 31, 2019, 10:28 PM

112. Joy is great on her own show - which lately I've been sleeping through,

 

to be honest. But I don't care for her when she fills in for Rachel or any other prime time program because she doesn't do teleprompter (or whatever they read from) well.

She had a one hour daytime show for a brief period and I believe her inability to read in a conversational way is what ended that show.

Her two hour weekend show is successful, I believe, because it's practically all interview - which is what she's great at.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 08:51 PM

7. Joy Reid keeps getting a pass on pretty much everything. I think she believes her own press.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:09 PM

10. It's her opinion. Don't belittle her. Refute her if you disagree.

 

There's at least grain of truth in what she says. That doesn't mean he's not the best candidate, but it is worth considering. It seems to me Biden is the "safe" choice. He is undoubtedly a good man. Is there anyone else who could take us farther than Biden if they were elected? Are they electable? All good questions.
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Response to Nitram (Reply #10)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:26 PM

16. If she was criticizing Biden on the ISSUES, that would be fair game, but let's not mince words.

 

she is insulting and stereo typing Biden supporters, and that is bullshit

but then again, perhaps she will educate us how someone hacked her computer, and wrote those homophobic tweets in her name
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Response to still_one (Reply #16)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:53 PM

29. She never came clean on that. I don't watch her anymore.

 

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Response to still_one (Reply #16)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:36 PM

38. Ho, ho. Yes, fair criticism this is not. Facile and false characterization of Biden supporters.

 

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Response to still_one (Reply #16)

Thu May 30, 2019, 07:11 AM

60. This!

 

Sorry to see it. Cleaning her old Florida act up allowed her to become the national Joy Reid millions of new viewers admired, including me.

But lately she's been using her influence to push small-minded, even slightly hostile, propaganda-ish viewpoints. As you say, she's insulting and rejecting millions of good Democrats.

The best explanation for this turn away from reason and facts would be that it is her own choice. I'm remembering, though, that most MSNBC hosts and their guests are required to help elect Republicans and defeat Democrats. Only some of the evening folk, with very different audience expectations from daytime, are powerful enough to refuse. We are hot into a giant electoral battle for power, and Joy's is a weekend morning show.
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Response to Nitram (Reply #10)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:25 PM

35. Heck with the "safe" choice. Let's go for the risky choice and re-elect aTrump

 

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #35)

Thu May 30, 2019, 02:11 AM

49. you just showed an example of what Ms. Reid is referring to

 

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Response to Skittles (Reply #49)

Thu May 30, 2019, 07:22 AM

62. Hardly, it is a political reality that few maybe none of our many fine candidates can beat Trump

 

except Biden. He is from Pennsylvania and beloved...he can take Trump's electoral college path away from him. This is a BFD...none of the other candidates can do this in PA. Do I fear Trump could get reelected ...yes. And we could lose the house if we run the wrong candidate. A world where Trump has unlimited power and another SCOTUS pick should scare the hell out of all of us.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #62)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:04 PM

76. I don't take that for a given. People who think only Biden can beat Trump are making a lot of

 

unfounded assumptions.
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Response to Nitram (Reply #76)

Wed Jun 19, 2019, 11:13 PM

137. Look st the map...then vonsider who eon the midterms...not progressives but

 

Moderates.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #62)

Tue Jun 18, 2019, 05:13 PM

117. In what world is that a reality?

 

Cause in this one, the one that matters, all of our top runners have a good chance.
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Response to Lordquinton (Reply #117)

Wed Jun 19, 2019, 11:16 PM

138. The world where midterms are examined as well as maps that clearly show lhe path tovictory

 

Is. Winning the midwest.
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Response to Nitram (Reply #10)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:14 AM

67. Definitely

 

That's exactly what it meant by "the only candidate who can beat Trump." Especially with references to polling before debates.
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Response to Nitram (Reply #10)

Thu May 30, 2019, 12:21 PM

71. Is it based on any facts?

 

Is there any poll showing that the lead comes from older voters (and that is a bit of ageism to indicate that is somehow bad in itself) and why should we not be risk averse this time?
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:16 PM

11. Not Feeling This....

 

And we are POC. What does she mean here? All Biden supporters are Elder White People?
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:19 PM

12. I think that a lot of people believe that Biden is the safe choice

 

Like any other candidate, Biden has supporters that run the full spectrum of reasons for their support. "Safe" doesn't have to mean elderly and white to everyone. It can mean "can win Pennsylvania." It can mean "has name recognition."

I don't agree with her whole post, but I do believe that risk aversion is a real priority for some Democrats. Having been through the catastrophic results of 2016, I think that some Democrats want to make the safest choice that they can.
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Response to More_Cowbell (Reply #12)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:42 PM

40. We want a safer world. Not "safe" politics. nt

 

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Response to emmaverybo (Reply #40)

Thu May 30, 2019, 02:49 AM

50. Yesterday Biden released the first policy proposal of his campaign

 

It was in support of education, which I think is great.

It's been more than a month since he announced, and this is his first policy announcement.

But he's still the leading candidate, and I think it's because people feel like they know him from his years of public service. They didn't need him to articulate what he wants to do.

That's what I mean by "safe." In my opinion, some Democrats trust Biden because he's Biden. He could wait more than a month to come out with his first policy because he has built-in credibility.



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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:20 PM

13. This is insulting to Biden supporters, and IS beneath Joy Reid. If you want to criticize Biden on

 

various issues, that is fair game, but to characterize those who are voting for Joe Biden because they are "fearful" is disgraceful. and bullshit. She is also being dishonest in saying that the only ones supporting Joe Biden are baby boomers. Sorry Joy, but that is a LIE.

Sorry Joy, but Biden supporters are NOT as shallow as you imply. They are aware of the issues, and even more aware of where Joe Biden on the issues.

and while Joy may not realize it, she has also insulted President Obama.

Now I am going to be nasty. I guess this is to be expected from someone who denies making homophobic tweets, until she caught in a bold face LIE, and then furthers that lie by saying that someone must have hacked her computer.
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Response to still_one (Reply #13)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:29 PM

17. So, who did Joy say she's voting for, again?

 

Because while I want Inslee to get a primary audience and a place of attention at the convention, I gotta say that whoever's good enough for Obama is good enough for me. And black voters, for that matter.

I just don't understand what brought this divisive thing out of her.
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Response to ancianita (Reply #17)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:41 PM

20. I don't what brought it on Ancianita, I am only aware of it through this OP, so I don't know the

 

exact context. I also really don't like to bash Joy Reid either, and no doubt more rational voices come forth




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Response to still_one (Reply #20)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:46 PM

26. As I explained in the OP (and as you'll see if you click on her tweet), she'd been responding to a

 

tweet from Chris Hayes that wasn't about Biden, but was about impeachment and possible Democratic risk aversion to impeachment.

Joy threw in that swipe at Biden and his supporters as an example of Democratic risk aversion.

I don't know which candidate Joy likes best, either. I have had the impression from various remarks she's made that she's unhappy Biden is the frontrunner.

But I was shocked to see her contempt for Biden supporters.
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #26)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:52 PM

28. Thank you. Yes, that swipe did seem to come out of nowhere. She's probably very tired. If I were

 

in her TV journalism business I'd be dead by now.

I'd have thought she'd appreciate Biden because Obama does. Interesting.
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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #26)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:55 PM

30. Thanks highplainsdem. I should have paid more attention. I just went to the tweet, and was

 

confused because the response to Chris Hayes didn't seem connected.

Appreciate setting me straight, and yes, as a Biden supporter, I am insulted by this

She is getting pushback too in that tweet thread




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Response to ancianita (Reply #17)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:49 PM

27. Please see my reply #26 below, which was meant as a reply to your message as well.

 

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Response to still_one (Reply #13)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:40 PM

19. As a Boomer Sooner..my bad, a baby boomer that has voted since 72 I'm old enuff to remember that..

 



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Response to still_one (Reply #13)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:44 PM

41. I always wondered about that. Seems Joy is doubling down on her biased side.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:22 PM

14. Twitter

 

The fastest way to be unemployed!

BTW Joy, in 2019, who knows their neighbors?

Really? My neighbor was a NAZI ?

I never would have guessed!

He seemed like a nice guy!
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:25 PM

15. Nope. She misreads the historical importance of Biden's being able to put this govt back together,

 

better, faster and with a supportive team mix of experienced along with younger leaders.

I'm an Inslee supporter and over 70, and even *I* can see that's not the reason.
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Response to ancianita (Reply #15)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:29 PM

18. Thanks for that, ancianita!

 

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Response to ancianita (Reply #15)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:46 PM

42. You said it. He can hit the shaking ground America is standing on running. nt

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:41 PM

21. I'm not a Biden supporter, but that even hits MY ears hard.

 

An ugly thing to say about someone who could be the Democratic candidate in the GE. To make things worse, she's wrong.

I'm not sure anyone has a handle of who exactly comprises the base of the Dem Party. (Each candidate will have his/her own base of supporters.) The Democratic Party has members who comprise more varied demographic groups than the Republican Party, for one thing.
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22. As a Boomer Sooner..my bad, a baby boomer that has voted since 72 I'm old enuff to remember that..

 


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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:43 PM

23. Lol

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:44 PM

24. Joy is a homophobe. Her own words prove it.

 

It amazes me that people here still like her or feel she has anything of worth to say.

No thanks.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:46 PM

25. I didn't think it possible to be biased against both Sanders and Biden.

 

But, Joy Reid can pull it off.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 09:58 PM

31. The strongest choice is by definition the safest choice.

 

Most Democrats think Joe is the strongest choice.

Likewise, most Democrats thought Hillary was the strongest choice.

Both choices are grounded in meritorious service and the commitment of the candidate to our principles - in word, deed, and YES, identity.

I support full-time Democrats.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:11 PM

32. Maybe you don't understand the "base"?!?!? Or polling.

 


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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:23 PM

33. Just like "Millenials", "Boomers" are being put in a single group mind-set.

 


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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:29 PM

36. I don't watch her anymore.

 

If she is subbing for another host I turn it off. The whole “I’m not a homophobe someone hacked my computer” saga alienated me. I gave her another chance for a while but then she seemed to veer around the bend. She has become obnoxious and unctuous.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 10:38 PM

39. I stopped watching Joy ...

 

I stopped watching Joy when her past antigay comments became known.

“Back in December, after a series of homophobic posts on her defunct, decade-old blog resurfaced on social media, the MSNBC host Joy Reid apologized for them.
But this week, when Ms. Reid was confronted with a new batch of homophobic writings from that same period, she said she had been the victim of hackers.

That claim was called into question on Tuesday, when the Internet Archive, the meticulous online record-keeping nonprofit that hosted the archived version of her site, said it had found no evidence to support her claim.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/24/business/media/joy-reid-homophobic-blog-posts.html
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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #39)

Wed May 29, 2019, 11:14 PM

45. Does she still maintain she was hacked by time traveling hackers?

 

Is the FBI investigation still pending?
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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #39)

Thu May 30, 2019, 05:15 AM

53. I am no fan of hers.

 

I am not sure which is worst - being proved to be a homophobe, or being a blatant liar. On the first position, one can evolve.

Not so much on the other.
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Response to Tipperary (Reply #53)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:55 PM

97. I'm still stunned she survived the phony hacking claim. NT

 

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Response to Midwestern Democrat (Reply #97)

Fri May 31, 2019, 07:03 AM

101. Media hypocrisy in action.

 

It amazes me when people lie so blatantly. No shame.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 11:01 PM

43. Disappointing and unprofessional.... can't see why

 

someone in the big leagues feels this biting comment could be helpful. Used to watch her... no longer bother.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed May 29, 2019, 11:11 PM

44. It's interesting to me how left and right can seem amazingly similar.

 

Hmmm, perhaps I'n a centrist somewhat. I'v always self identified as a liberal democrat.

This.....?
I don't know what the hell this is.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 12:02 AM

46. sounds like she is just stating facts

 

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Response to Skittles (Reply #46)

Thu May 30, 2019, 07:25 AM

63. Sounds like she is just ignoring the dangers of a Trump victory and a loss in the house...as some

 

who endlessly debate policy that will never be passed and administer purity tests that cause electoral losses do on this very site...not meaning you.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #63)

Thu May 30, 2019, 03:56 PM

74. once again

 

proof she is correct
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #63)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:08 PM

79. Hi Dems.. Reid is insultingly Wrong.

 



Among those who say they're paying a lot of attention, Biden leads Sanders and Warren 42% - 8% - 15%.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287129464

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Response to Cha (Reply #79)

Tue Jun 18, 2019, 10:11 PM

121. Dynamic leader of the CBC, Cedric Richmond is also on team Biden.

 

Co-chair of Biden's campaign.

Joy needs to check herself before she wrecks herself.
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Response to oasis (Reply #121)

Tue Jun 18, 2019, 10:15 PM

122. Yeah, checking herself before tweeting something

 

so inane as that would have been excellent advice, oasis!

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 01:32 AM

47. She's wrong about Biden Supporters.. anyone can see that..

 

who's paying attention, and doesn't want to insult his supporters.


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https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287129464

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 02:00 AM

48. Besides being knee jerk this far out it's demonstrably false

 

Democratic primary voters nominated the first black president and nominated the the first woman to a major party national ticket. In 1984, Geraldine Ferraro was the first female VP nominee. There’s been plenty of pioneering going on. Joy should relax and enjoy the ride.
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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #48)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:40 PM

85. given 2 of your examples have been in the last 10 yrs perhaps that's an indicator

 

of something
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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #48)

Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:08 PM

125. First Jewish candidate for VP as well

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:38 AM

51. This is the kind of sh't that loses elections.

 

My TV remote is now programmed to change channels when JR's voice is heard.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 05:01 AM

52. Very mild compared to what I've been called here

 

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for being a Bernie supporter.



ETA: A hit dog will holler.
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Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #52)

Thu May 30, 2019, 07:27 AM

64. I find that completely not true...I have never seen his supporters attacked.

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #64)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:38 PM

99. Exactly Dems!

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #99)

Fri May 31, 2019, 06:12 AM

100. Always the victim these folks

 

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #64)

Thu Jun 20, 2019, 12:20 AM

139. Bwahahahahaaaa!

 

Oh... wait... you're serious.

Never mind.

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Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #52)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:36 PM

98. link?

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 06:08 AM

54. Perhaps someone hacked her Twitter account again

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 06:15 AM

55. Fear is one of the drivers of Biden's support

 

People are looking at who they think can win more than who might be best for the job.
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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #55)

Thu May 30, 2019, 06:38 AM

57. Or maybe we think he can win AND is best for the job.

 

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Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #57)

Thu May 30, 2019, 06:58 AM

59. Thank you!

 

This is exactly why I support Joe Biden!

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Response to Renew Deal (Reply #55)

Thu May 30, 2019, 07:12 AM

61. It doesn't matter how good at the job you will be if you can't get elected. I can read an electoral

 

map. It is not about fear ...but about strategy.
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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #61)

Thu May 30, 2019, 07:50 AM

66. I agree about the first part

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 06:21 AM

56. Thanks for the heads up. I just went and told her off....

 

How dare she assume she knows the basis of our support.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 06:49 AM

58. Joy Reid is the only MSNBC program I watch. And will continue doing so.

 

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Response to robbedvoter (Reply #58)

Thu May 30, 2019, 07:28 AM

65. Well she lost me. Took her out of my DVR. I find her insults insupportable.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:18 AM

68. Reid, Kornaki, Todd, Mitchell, Scarborough, Matthews.......

 

The list of MSNBC spokesmen that I loathe is getting longer than the list of MSNBC spokesmen that I enjoy...…..
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 08:57 AM

69. Basically, I agree with what she said

 

Maybe she shouldn't have painted with a broad brush, but overall, I think she is right on.
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Response to lillypaddle (Reply #69)

Thu May 30, 2019, 03:47 PM

72. No, Reid is Not right, and she's insulting Biden Supporters..

 



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https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287129464

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Response to Cha (Reply #72)

Thu May 30, 2019, 05:45 PM

87. I love Joe

 

During the 2008 election, I supported him first, and only supported Obama when it was clear that Joe was going to bow out. That being said, I have always felt like he, along with Sanders, is older than I would like in a candidate for 2020.

If Biden wins the primary, OF COURSE I would support him, fully and with pleasure. But I do believe there are many who feel like only a white male can win against trump. I don't agree with that.

We have a wealth of fantastic, talented candidates, including Joe Biden. I lean towards Kamala Harris and Pete Buttigieg.

I'm almost 72. Maybe I'm just in need of some younger blood.
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Response to lillypaddle (Reply #69)

Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:05 PM

124. So do I

 

There are so many dynamic people asking for our primary vote who represent the future.

And I'm old enough to collect Social Security.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 09:26 AM

70. Under the bus you go!

 

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Response to progressoid (Reply #70)

Thu May 30, 2019, 03:50 PM

73. Not for me.. but she's wrong on this.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:03 PM

75. Interesting. It looks like there will be more than two factions this time around. nt

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:06 PM

77. I turned off AMJOY on Sunday when she was attacking a democrat for not supporting impeachment

 

AMJOY was so over the top that it was offensive to me. These comments are also pissing me off. I may start watching CNN on weekend mornings if she keeps this up
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Response to Gothmog (Reply #77)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:19 PM

82. Yeah, Joy is insulting and

 

she's wrong.

Biden has lots of support across the broad spectrum as you know, Goth.


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https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287129464

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #77)

Thu May 30, 2019, 06:18 PM

91. Was that the one where she was being overly contentious with Ro Khanna?

 

I heard it over the radio. She was going at it like a mad woman.
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Response to Kahuna7 (Reply #91)

Thu May 30, 2019, 07:53 PM

95. Yep

 

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #95)

Thu May 30, 2019, 07:59 PM

96. That was very hard to listen to. nt

 

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Response to brandnewday2009 (Reply #80)

Thu May 30, 2019, 06:13 PM

90. She may Melissa Harris Perry herself out of a job if she doesn't..

 

stop talking down to her audience. She forgets how she got her job in the first place.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:12 PM

81. I used to really like her

 

But sad to say, she was diminished greatly to me by the revelations of her anti-gay posts of long ago. Perhaps it was a blog, can't remember.

Nevertheless, Rachel overlooked them to push for her on MSNBC.

Even tho I knew that and how dated they were, I never respected her as much after that. Now I hardly ever watch her anymore, and if I do, I find some statement or line of questioning that really bothers me.

Yes, bad on me, but there it is,
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:20 PM

83. Interesting how two threads on the same topic can take such different paths.

 

Check the responses here. I think they're the correct take.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=12142780
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Response to LAS14 (Reply #83)

Thu May 30, 2019, 07:11 PM

93. Even more interesting are these old threads I found via search

 

Amazing situational ethics depending on whose ox is being gored. When she was having a go (fairly IMHO) at the Berners then she was fiercely defended and was painted as a victim of a hit job, her homophobic blog posts were the result of 'hacking' (LUDICROUS) or she was excused because she has 'evolved'.

Now she takes a poke at Biden (I am not of fan of her take on this TBF) and it is under the bus with that known homophobe Joy Reid.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142045257#op

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210534326#op

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210541653#op

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210551913#op

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210540249#op

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Response to Celerity (Reply #93)

Fri May 31, 2019, 10:53 PM

113. "Amazing situational ethics depending on whose ox is being gored."

 

As a Sanders supporter, I'd have to agree. Not sure if it's ethics really, but it sure seems situational. The simple old phrase "double standard" works as well.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #93)

Tue Jun 18, 2019, 04:54 PM

116. She's wonderful and the victim when she's dissing on the LGBT community and... Sanders.

 

Not so much now The last link is priceless. Thanks
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 04:36 PM

84. No, I'm supporting him because I want to win.

 

I’m more in line ideologically with Bernie or Elizabeth but I don’t think either of them can beat the asshole. It’s appalling to me that he “won” at all, let alone that he can very well beat ANY of our candidates. A ham sandwich should be able to beat that fucknut now.

Hillary Clinton should be running for her second term. None of this should be happening but here we are.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 06:08 PM

89. Come on folks, re-read what she said. It's fine. nt

 

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #89)

Thu May 30, 2019, 07:26 PM

94. You "come on". I've reread it several times

 

and it's Not "fine".
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Response to Cha (Reply #94)

Fri May 31, 2019, 04:35 PM

103. She's describing the Republican stance. She's not denigrating elder white men. nt

 

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #103)

Fri May 31, 2019, 04:39 PM

104. I know that she's insulting Biden

 

supporters.
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Response to Cha (Reply #104)

Fri May 31, 2019, 05:51 PM

105. OK. I thought people were objecting to her insulting Biden (which she wasn't). nt

 

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #105)

Fri May 31, 2019, 07:48 PM

108. Yeah, if you read it closely you'll see that.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2019, 06:32 PM

92. I'm baffled anyone can condone what she said.

 

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Response to DrToast (Reply #92)

Fri May 31, 2019, 06:04 PM

106. Because of what she said about...

 

.. Biden supporters or what you think she said about elder white men?
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 06:19 PM

107. This is her thing. She'll trash supporters of candidates whom she doesn't like.

 



We've seen it before. Some may be seeing it for the first time.

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Fri May 31, 2019, 07:51 PM

109. Yep. And lol.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 08:42 PM

110. Pop Quiz: Who is happy when Democrats fight among themselves?

 

Trump and the GOP
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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #110)

Fri May 31, 2019, 10:09 PM

111. Ah.. we're calling out Reid for insulting

 

Biden Supporters.. pretty much the whole thread is in agreement.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jun 18, 2019, 04:04 PM

115. I like Joy, but I don't fully agree with her interpretation.

 

She's right about how many democrats have flocked to him out of fear. Even my brother, a black millennial, pretty much said democrats look ridiculous with so many candidates and that we should go with Biden and not do any risky experiments next year. I asked him, What about Cory Booker? Kamala? Nope. No experiments, he insisted.

However, I think people like Biden for other reasons too. Does he connect with most of us on an intellectual level? Obviously not. But when it comes to connecting on an emotional level, he stands alone in the field. None of the other candidates has that skill. That is why Biden is such a formidable candidate and that's also why dump fears him.

I also think that Joy and others are getting distracted from the goal--which is to remove trump and return to some semblance of normalcy. Why are people so worked up over his strategy of shaming republicans? We know mcconnell and the rest are deplorable, but let the man campaign in the style he sees fit. Stop trying to micromanage what he says on the stump. That is super duper petty. As far as more substantial disagreements, we can sort out specific policies when the time comes. Biden has shown that he is flexible and willing to change course when necessary. Give him a break already!
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Response to ecstatic (Reply #115)

Wed Jun 19, 2019, 04:02 AM

129. Good show. Well said.

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:52 PM

120. I cant believe what I'm reading on DU

 

Joy Reid is a victim. The Russians personally hacked her in order to make her appear homophobic. Trumps handpicked FBI director has done nothing to right this wrong. Despite her apparent distaste for Biden, there is no reason to be like the Russians and attack her.
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Response to TSIAS (Reply #120)

Wed Jun 19, 2019, 05:54 AM

132. Evidence of Russians hacking Joy Reid?

 

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Response to TSIAS (Reply #120)

Wed Jun 19, 2019, 07:53 AM

133. she was NOT hacked, roflmaooooooo

 

Multiple internet archives had those posts real-time logged back years and years (some going back to 2007) before this came up. Some of those posts were from 12, 13 years ago, when she was a nobody. Not only that but dozens (hundreds?) of websites and archives (INCLUDING DU ITSELF) would have been had to been hacked back in 2006, 2007 and years and years afterwards, and meticulously replaced her posts (or made ones up out of whole cloth, AND exactly match each other one for years and years) with 'fake' ones, lolol.

She would have had to have been hacked real time, (going back to 2006.2007, etc) when almost no one outside of Florida knew her, back when she was a wee tiny small-time blogger. She was not on MSNBC then, she had a microscopic amount of influence then. All the archives verified they were NOT hacked. Also, IF the blog had been hacked back in 2006, 2007 and onward, then Reid (who RAN HER OWN BLOG) would have instantly noticed. The entries are sequential, she would have seen a 'hacked', 'fake' post as soon as she put up a new entry. It as not just ONE, it was many.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/claims-by-joy-reids-cybersecurity-expert-fall-apart

Reid demanded that Internet Archive completely remove ALL their entire archived pages of her blog. They said no (rightly so, as that is defeating the entire purpose of an archive), then Reid had an IT team put robots.txt blocking scripts up on HER servers, but that doesn't work on all archives (as you will see below). The whole story of 'hacking' is a joke, a bad one.


Here is the nail in the 'she was hacked' coffin of bullshit.

From DU itself.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210540836

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I'm a fan of Joy Reid - also a fan of the truth...


And I want to get to the bottom of it - whether she's lying about these posts or she was hacked.

One thing I don't get is why one of the supposed hacked posts made its way to DU in 2007?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x48020

This post is very similar to one she claims is not true - which is linked from that post - about Tim Hardaway being a homophobe. In that article, she mentions men kissing and her disgust with it - which she also references in the Snickers ad post done about ten days before.

You can view these posts here:

https://archive.is/pMYl8

http://archive.is/rSO2i

So, my question is: if she is claiming these were all hacks, and one is clearly not a hack, how does she reconcile that? How can we believe some of the comments are fake when others, which are fairly bigoted (outright, actually) about men kissing, are, in fact pretty clearly her's?

There's no way this was hacked ... the post was clearly linked to DU by Ian David back in 2007. If that's real, despite the fact she's claiming it's not, how can we trust the others aren't, either?

I hate this. I love Joy. I don't want this to be true...but evidence is there.


snapshot of the 2007 DU post DI was talking about above (the link is in his post above)

here is the link again

https://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x48020




Bottom line:

Patently ridiculous to suggest she was hacked. Laughable in fact.

A person would need a time machine and a team of hundreds to literally change and/or insert dozens or hundreds of sites and hundreds (probably thousands?) of individual entries/pages REAL TIME and for years and years moving forward and they would still fail. It is almost impossible to find EVERY single page on the web (and dark web) where a blog entry (and it's multiple entries in this case) has been re-posted or crawled and archived. DU itself (as shown above) is but one of dozens of smoking guns showing Reid DID POST that rot.

BTW, just to be fair to Reid, also laughable are the attacks now heaped upon her now because because she gored someone's sacred ox, but so many were happy to exalt her when she was attacking a target they did not like.

see here

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287135099#post93
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Tue Jun 18, 2019, 10:24 PM

123. Joe Biden is the most qualified candidate running

 

his only drawback is a lack of novelty - if that is a drawback at all in the Trump era.
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Wed Jun 19, 2019, 01:13 AM

127. That's a fair point, and being an MSNBC host, she shouldn't be

 

inserting herself so forcefully into the debate in going after any particular candidate or their supporters.
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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Jun 19, 2019, 04:47 AM

131. Buh-bye Joy. Just deleted you from my HULU.

 



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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Jun 19, 2019, 08:28 AM

134. But isn't that what people are talking about when they say "electability"?

 

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Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Jun 19, 2019, 08:40 AM

136. What a dumb comment from her.

 

Is she on our side??
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