Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWarren leads again: proposes legislation so presidents can be indicted
As she has on so many issues, Elizabeth Warren is demonstrating leadership in proposing comprehensive legislation that would, among other things, allow a sitting president to be indicted.
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"she would pursue new legislation to strip the current protections and, on the administration side, pledged to appoint Justice Department officials who will reverse flawed policies so no President is shielded from criminal accountability.'"
On Wallace's show just now they gave Warren credit for speaking plainly on an issue that many Americans didn't realize was in practicality under DOJ guidelines the case, that a President is above the law.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/31/politics/elizabeth-warren-law-presidents-trump-indictment/index.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
get the red out
(13,461 posts)But she is starting to reel me in.
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LuvLoogie
(6,984 posts)that under current law a President can't be indicted. Why cede them that ground?
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Bradshaw3
(7,506 posts)They can say the guidelines are wrong while also proposing legislation that would ensure that it becomes law. And if we worry about how they are going to paint it, then we have already ceded the ground to them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LuvLoogie
(6,984 posts)Last edited Fri May 31, 2019, 07:08 PM - Edit history (1)
Trying to make a law that the president is indictable cedes the conclusion that, right now, the president is not indictable. The tack to take would be to sue that the "cannot indict a sitting president" policy is unconstitutional.
It is not a case of worrying about how they paint it, but how we will have painted it.
You can't do the "two things at a time" because one is a fall back solution in the case that the president is, indeed, not indictable. That argument is premature and undermines the argument that the president is, currently, indictable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LuvLoogie
(6,984 posts)one of the articles of impeachment would read. "The President stands indicted BY GRAND JURY of the the charge...
evidence is..."
Finding a policy unconstitutional would happen more quickly than getting a new law passed. Elizabeth Warren knows this. It's like Bernie FINALLY offering up a single payer healthcare bill AFTER the House and Senate fall under Republican control
That would be called "showboating."
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DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)Every President has a Vice President so why can't the President be indicted?
jftr - Pence will be as bad as Trump but I am just sayin'
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mcar
(42,300 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)the law. thank you (president) warren.
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Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)The extremist Republican Court will knock it down. IMO.
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abqtommy
(14,118 posts)Lizzie Warren took an (verbal) axe
And gave tRUMP forty whacks.
When she saw what she had done
She gave Barr, McConnel and Pence forty-one!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)The GOP could not be trusted with this sort of power.
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Mr.Bill
(24,274 posts)These assholes would have indicted Hillary on inauguration day.
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided