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Uncle Joe

(65,163 posts)
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 10:22 AM Jun 2019

Iraq War cheerleader @BillKristol pledged to be held accountable if he was wrong






BERNIE SANDERS ASKED BILL KRISTOL TO APOLOGIZE FOR PUSHING THE IRAQ WAR. GUESS WHAT HAPPENED NEXT.

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Kristol’s response is particularly striking because on March 28, 2003, just 10 days after the U.S.-led coalition invaded Iraq, he appeared on C-SPAN and made a great show of being “happy to be held to a moral standard” if his predictions about the war were wrong. Specifically, Kristol said, the grounds for war would be grievously weakened if Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction; or Iraqis did not treat the U.S. as a liberating force; or the U.S. did not leave behind a democratic government.

Of course, none of those things happened. Kristol’s entire performance that day was a masterpiece of prevarication and bad faith. But 16 years later, as seen in edited highlights below, his most egregious lie is his pretense that he would ever be willing to be held accountable for his actions.

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The death toll of the Iraq War is incalculable, both because the U.S. doesn’t care enough to count Iraqi deaths and because the dying isn’t over. The consequences of the war will reverberate throughout the Mideast and the world for the rest of our lives. What we can say is that hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were killed.

We measure the number of American military dead more precisely: Almost 4,500 U.S. soldiers died in Iraq. The families of many of them were surely visiting their graves this weekend. All you need to know about Bill Kristol is that he spent that time proclaiming that we should not expect him to apologize for cajoling us into a war that created so many tombstones.

https://theintercept.com/2019/05/28/bernie-sanders-asked-bill-kristol-to-apologize-for-pushing-the-iraq-war-guess-what-happened-next/



There is a video on the link.
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Iraq War cheerleader @BillKristol pledged to be held accountable if he was wrong (Original Post) Uncle Joe Jun 2019 OP
The two of them are having a private war. Kristol has #neverSanders going on... Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #1
There was/is nothing private about the debate in going to war with Iraq Uncle Joe Jun 2019 #2
Speaking of never Sanders... Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2019 #3
Sanders opposed gun control. Kristol isn't running for anything JI7 Jun 2019 #4
 

Honeycombe8

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1. The two of them are having a private war. Kristol has #neverSanders going on...
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 10:44 AM
Jun 2019

and Bernie has this "apologize" thing against Kristol going.

Yeah, Kristol was a neocon, banging the drum for Iraq. But why go after a pundit? Not even a really important, high profile pundit? Because Kristol is against Sanders.

I also am tired of hearing insincere apologies by famous people. Tired of hearing any apologies. If they think they were wrong in a high profile stance of importance, just say you were wrong. I guess Kristol doesn't think he was wrong (and he couldn't be more wrong in that assessment).

But a candidate for the Presidency of the U.S. should be at a higher level than striking up a war with a mere pundit, IMO, except maybe to respond to a particular criticism, to set the record straight.

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Uncle Joe

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2. There was/is nothing private about the debate in going to war with Iraq
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 11:58 AM
Jun 2019

Why go after a pundit?

It was the pundits and corporate media conglomerate editorials often gong against their own reporting in regards to evidence of "weapons of mass destruction" which gave cover for the politicians to wage that war.

They helped shape public opinion especially for the uninformed segment of the American population.

You and I both know Kristol was wrong and I would wager he does as well but he doesn't care, however if he isn't held to account today his opinion in regards to waging war with Iran will have more weight with the public than it should.

I believe preventing our nation from waging unjust war is one of if not the highest calling for a Presidential candidate or President.


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Hassin Bin Sober

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3. Speaking of never Sanders...
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 12:06 PM
Jun 2019


Can’t the guy drag a neocon jagoff Iraq war cheerleader without being criticized?

This is a new standard, I guess.
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JI7

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4. Sanders opposed gun control. Kristol isn't running for anything
Sat Jun 1, 2019, 12:14 PM
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