Democratic Primaries
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I had lunch with a friend of mine a few weeks ago and we both hope the nominee is not Biden. Sadly, I don't think he is up to the task. First, he is old. Old is not what America needs now. Next, he is a gaffe machine and has tons of baggage. Picture Anita Hill over and over. Trump will label him "sleepy Joe" or some crap and there you go. Usually the job of President ages someone, but not Trump. That's because he does not do the job. He screws off, golfs, tweets, and eats fried chicken. He will look the same on the debate stage. Of course he will skate away from all his crimes and incompetence. So when it is two old guys on a debate stage, Trump wins. We need a young man or woman that can say "I'm young, it's time for a change, vote grandpa out" - that might work. Otherwise buckle up for 4 more years of Trump. And even more when he refuses to leave. Getting him out of the White House will be like unclogging a stubborn toilet.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,281 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DownriverDem
(6,207 posts)normalcy. Biden represents normalcy. He will not take trump's crap. You calling Biden old is funny. Look at the slob in the White House. Biden running with a progressive Dem woman would be a winning ticket. I think a Biden/Harris ticket would be formidable.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,281 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)that got us into this nightmare in the first place?
I don't dislike Joe, but I don't think he is what we need. What we don't need is someone who will go back to the old ways of doing things.
We CAN win, yet also progress towards the future.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,355 posts)The left left green slime voted for the Russian princess Stein.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Because, not being a white straight male, I happen to benefit from the policies that have actually been implemented by the Democratic party, so I'd just like to know who you are talking about when you say:
Thank you in advance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lamp_shade
(14,796 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem2theMax
(9,595 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Indygram
(2,113 posts)I really don't.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sop
(9,955 posts)Probably a September surprise, too. No telling what this psychopath will do to stay in power.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yaesu
(8,020 posts)that I thought had a brain who voted for him. The only reason they did was do get back at "us liberals". They don't care about him, what he thinks ,they just want to keep the fascists in power.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Brainstormy
(2,380 posts)He'll claim he can't get a fair shake from the fake news media.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
snowybirdie
(5,191 posts)who can take the job on day one and know what to do, not learn as they go. Old can be wisely know.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
An experienced candidate will surround himself/herself with equally experienced and exceptional people. It is not a one person job.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
trueblue2007
(17,138 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pnwmom
(108,925 posts)with Congressional leaders getting together before he even took office to plan on how they were going to obstruct everything he did.
Many of our candidates are well prepared to take on the job from Day One, with the excellent teams they'll have put together during the transition.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,186 posts)so you are wrong about Bidens ability.
but good thing Beto isn't underestimating him as some of his so called supporters do that don't help Beto at all.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
More_Cowbell
(2,190 posts)Though I can also see Trump skipping out on debates.
I worry that Biden might not bring out young voters. But that might be offset by his ability to get some moderate independents or Republicans to cross over to him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LakeArenal
(28,729 posts)There were so many some fainted in the crush. Joe has no problem with young voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
3Hotdogs
(12,210 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Dream Girl
(5,111 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Callalily
(14,885 posts)He may surprise everyone!
I do hope that everyone will get sick and tired of trumps name-calling. No substance there.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pandr32
(11,447 posts)Not everyone worries about how it looks to have "old guys on a debate stage."
Let's get something straight. Biden spent 8 years as President Obama's VP--knows his stuff as well as loves his country. I remember him debating the young Paul Ryan and the optics weren't good for Paul Ryan--not Joe Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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pandr32
(11,447 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pandr32
(11,447 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,729 posts)I have a friend I had lunch with. She said, Gosh golly, I sure hope its Biden.
I said me, too. Because hes the most qualified and the most liked candidate both nationally and globally.
Anyone still falling for Dumps labels isnt thinking clearly.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lamp_shade
(14,796 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)👏 👏 👏
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
madamesilverspurs
(15,784 posts)but I'm too old and way too feeble for your ears.
.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,729 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
nolabear
(41,915 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem2theMax
(9,595 posts)Me too. And I'm crotchety. I hear old people are crotchety. I get senior citizen discounts so I must be old.
But amazingly, I'm a heck of a lot smarter than I was when I was younger. Funny how that works.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
extvbroadcaster
(343 posts)Sure, Joe would make a fine President. Just like Hillary, he is clearly competent and Trump is not. But being right and being a loser will not cut it. We need Trump out of office. Voting him out, and in a land slide is the only way. If Biden is the nominee, he better pick somebody as VP that can energize voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(91,968 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,186 posts)than others.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)because based on polling, Beto can't do that
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)I also think Beto would struggle in a debate with his rambling, histrionic style. I think Joe is the one Dem that scares Trump and beating him is all that matters in 2020. Beto in 2028!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
msongs
(67,199 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,929 posts)Im not interested in what you think about the other guy, I can formulate my own opinions about that person, Jarrett added. Tell me why I should believe in you.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=136918
Like I said down thread.. " a terrible advocate for his candidate."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Won't have much to write about if you can't bash Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....our DEMOCRATIC candidates.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(91,968 posts)recognize bullshit when I see it.
I SEE IT
Things must be quiet over at JPR, or worse
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
debsy
(527 posts)There are plenty of younger, wittier people who would make dumpster look like what he is - an over-inflated, petulant, 72-year-old child-bully with no class, charm, or sense of humor and too much time on his hands to run our country into the ground.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Green Line
(1,123 posts)IS Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
EveHammond13
(2,855 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(295,929 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)And if one's only requirement is that the candidate not be old, he fits the requirement.
An interesting exercise in logic here.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,563 posts)People can disagree and debate the the pro's and con's of the candidates without tearing people down.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(295,929 posts)he's great and I said so here..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=136800
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,563 posts)I've seen your positive posts about Beto. I just don't know what divisive OP's like this achieve. But to fair, this poster isn't the only one guilty of this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(46,807 posts)in your assessment of Biden as a candidate, though I'm sure the opposition will use many of the same arguments. As for Trump's stupid labels, he will do that to anyone he perceives as a threat. The only people who take that seriously are his hardcore base.
Perhaps you should focus on your candidate and let republicans attack our current front runner.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)and once the normies start paying attention things will change.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,110 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Right now he seems still mentally sharp. But....I remember Reagan, who before he left was almost certainly in early Alzheimers. Orange Creep is younger and seemingly in some kind of decline. it can happen quickly. And his baggage is indeed an issue, like that odious crime bill in addition to the Anita Hill thing.
Again I will fully support him if hes it. But I would prefer Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren or Beto ORourke.....though with the evil dangerous Clown in there now any port in this historic storm.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Butterflylady
(3,523 posts)But I do know a whole lot of grandmas who will definitely be voting for that grandpa.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mr.Bill
(24,104 posts)Trump won't give any of them a derogatory nickname, lie about them, insult them, call them a communist or otherwise throw red meat bullshit to his fans about them. Right.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WheelWalker
(8,943 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem2theMax
(9,595 posts)I love that word. It sounds like a word an old person would use. (I am not suggesting you are old.)
I also love the phrase 'that's a lot of hooey.'
I hear that one a lot in really old black and white movies.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Auggie
(31,070 posts)Just thought youd all like to know.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Auggie
(31,070 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 2, 2019, 12:49 PM - Edit history (1)
it survived.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,162 posts)Especially if its criticism of actual Dems.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
gristy
(10,667 posts)There was a video of a recent speech by Biden to a small group. It was underwhelming. Too much of "I'm not going to bore you with blah blah blah". He just looked tired and like if he had tried to get down into the details he would have stumbled big time. I think it was on Kimmel's show.
Harris or Warren. They appear to have the skill and energy and a machine to take them to the finish line. The folks who don't usually vote (what, 50% of registered voters is it?). They are the ones for whom we need a candidate who will excite.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)Joe's got this and he will be our nominee!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287137392
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,803 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Thekaspervote
(32,606 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Noting that your worry that he will rise above 23 other candidates to become our nominee and that he's a loser are pulling opposite directions. Just don't let them pull you apart.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,682 posts)JK
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
delisen
(6,039 posts)and was successful in removing the confederate flag from South Carolina statehouse grounds. Haley is young, a former governor, and former U.N. ambassador. She has not burned bridges with Trump but has steered a independent path.
Supposedly she is here to help Joni Ernst; others think she is there to prepare for a 2024 run.
She may be there to prepare to replace either Trump or Pence on the 2020 ticket.
There is no guarantee that Trump is going to be the Republican candidate in 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
colorado_ufo
(5,717 posts)Bless your heart.
There's a well-known saying: "Money can't buy you love." But there is one a lot more true: "Money can't buy experience."
We need a Mayor Pete (fantastic man) in either the VP position or as an incredible Secretary of State, so that he could learn from Joe, or Elizabeth Warren. Maybe Kamala Harris, but some Washington experience might benefit her, too.
And, I am counting the days until we can cast a presidential vote for AOC!
But I would not vote for her now, even if I could.
Experience gives you an eagle's eye view of situations and keeps you from knee-jerk, ill-considered responses.
Experience is what we need now, with youth waiting in the wings. We have enough great candidates to hold the presidency for decades, if we will just get smart and play the long game the way the Repubs do.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunatica
(53,410 posts)the one thing that will make a really amazing person better is experience and the only way you get that is by aging!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
highplainsdem
(48,732 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
patphil
(6,035 posts)He's my third choice, but that's not bad, there are just so many great choices.
I would vote for him in and instant.
Patrick Phillips
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunatica
(53,410 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)but Biden is supposed to be immune from any such similar criticism?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
chillfactor
(7,566 posts)and would love to see Castro as his running mate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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ucrdem
(15,512 posts)He debated Hillary because he had to. Now he doesn't have to, and probably won't. But if he did he'd get his ass handed to him by any of the Senators including Biden. They're all lawyers and Trump isn't. That's what it boils down to.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LibFarmer
(772 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem2theMax
(9,595 posts)but I'm going to keep repeating it. And others in this thread have said pretty much the same thing.
This country is in crisis, a crisis I don't think we have seen since the Civil War. And if you don't think it's that bad, you are not paying attention.
If there was ever a time for experience, it is now.
Yes, Barack Obama took office as a young man, without the experience that Joe Biden now has. And yes, President Obama did an incredible job. President Obama inherited Bush's mess, but the next president will be walking into a minefield.
Trump has disgraced us at every turn. He has made our country a laughing stock. He is tearing up our justice system, and he is fanning the flames of hatred as fast as he possibly can. He is destroying everything he touches.
There are a number of Democratic candidates who are incredible in so many ways, and I would love to see any number of them as vice president, and then in the future as president.
But right now, this country needs the respect that Joe Biden will bring to the office, the knowledge he will bring to the office, the goodwill he already carries with him, to deal with countries and leaders all around the world.
It isn't just going to take the experience of our president, but the experience of leaders around the world to help us heal this country. We are going to need their help, and I think they would all reach out their hand to Joe Biden.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skya Rhen
(2,701 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lonestarblue
(9,883 posts)We are all tired beyond belief at not only the governing incompetence of Trump but also his deliberate nastiness and hateful behavior. His dishonesty is beyond belief, and he proudly displays his racism and his hatred of non-white, poor immigrants on a near-daily basis. If Biden is the one who can beat Trump, Ill be behind him 100%.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NBachers
(17,007 posts)The entire world will rejoice when Joe and Jill Biden are the next occupants of our beloved White House.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Xipe Totec
(43,872 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Lol.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ucrdem
(15,512 posts)So it's very possible that your friend saw something disturbing about Biden on Fakebook without ever realizing s/he had been targeted. That's how it worked last time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blue cat
(2,415 posts)The debates will probably surprise everyone.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Iggo
(47,489 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(144,005 posts)I want to win
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,285 posts)Or me too. What you said. His time has come and gone and its not just his age.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(144,005 posts)Link to tweet
If Biden is to be beaten, there is a strong case to be made that it wont be by Sanders, whose decision simply to rerun his 2016 campaign has cost him momentum and enthusiasm. If Democrats are going to go with an older white guy, they might as well pick someone whom Trump wont bludgeon as a socialist.
Chances are that if progressives are going to take down Biden, they will have to rally behind one of three contenders Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.), Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.) or South Bend, Ind. Mayor Pete Buttigieg.
Warren has carved out a distinct third-place spot in polling and has adeptly distinguished herself as the candidate with a plan for that that meaning just about every challenge facing the United States. The debates will test her ability to defend herself without sounding defensive and alleviate concerns that she wont be able to stand up to Trumps bullying.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheRealNorth
(9,435 posts)Instead of other Democrats.
BTW ageism is discrimination.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)Don't worry about taking a few thumps from some folks who think it's perfectly okay to slam other candidates like Sanders on a daily basis while acting like they think Biden is untouchable. Thank you for adding some refreshing balance to the forum and welcome to DU!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Prosper
(761 posts)depends on the circumstances ???
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
honest.abe
(8,556 posts)Trump wins only if gets away with cheating again. America is ready to flush the Orange Fool and even if stubborn he will still go down.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
flamingdem
(39,304 posts)with fellow dems and tRump. Remember the Biden Ryan debate? Look for it.
The rest is ageist crap. There are plenty of people who have outstanding health and mental capacity into their 90s.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)It was 28 years ago. Time to quit holding a grudge, and let it die.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden