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Why must our candidates fight the DNC for a debate on humanity's most pressing crisis? (Original Post) Magoo48 Jun 2019 OP
The DNC responded to why they aren't doing one debate on climate change left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #1
this is a great misunderstanding of our times. climate change isn't a single issue. it is woven Kurt V. Jun 2019 #5
It will be woven into all the debates left-of-center2012 Jun 2019 #6
The climate crisis is the one issue that deserves its own debate. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #17
Why should it have its own debate? I think it's a bad idea. thesquanderer Jun 2019 #31
This sounds reasonable mcar Jun 2019 #13
With all due respect. Horseshit and gunsmoke. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #16
"Our candidates" LibFarmer Jun 2019 #2
Climate change is not a "pet issue", and the DNC is not The Law. Triloon Jun 2019 #9
The DNC is run by ELECTED representatives LibFarmer Jun 2019 #14
Biiiig Yawn.. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #18
"DNC is the governing organization of Democrats and establishes the rules. pangaia Jun 2019 #27
i'm not concerned at all . stonecutter357 Jun 2019 #3
Makes you wonder who is really on which side FiveGoodMen Jun 2019 #4
It does? Please expand on that thought. NT SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #10
Does any candidate have a plan on adapting to climate change? Since it's already here... Kaleva Jun 2019 #7
inslee does. that's why he wants it. mopinko Jun 2019 #12
Yes he does have a developed plan. Thank you for pointing that out. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #19
I agree. They shouldn't be kicked out of the debates because they participated in a non-DNC one. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #8
I know, right. This is not the time for childish control issues. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #20
I like the position of the DNC. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #11
I agree hold a town hall event to get your message out. Do tear down the DNC we already FloridaBlues Jun 2019 #15
When the DNC becomes an archaic, vertical, close-minded power structure; it demands comment. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #22
I respect your position. Blue_true Jun 2019 #24
Yes. Duppers Jun 2019 #32
Don't like the DNC? GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #21
I would argue that their uninspired wish-wash will drive voters away. Magoo48 Jun 2019 #23
I would argue you are incorrect. GulfCoast66 Jun 2019 #25
We have something like 24 candidates. Blue_true Jun 2019 #26
you find the over 24 Democrats uninspired ? are you unable to look into what each candidate JI7 Jun 2019 #28
Without getting rid of trump, and preserving our 20 seat red district gain in the House; empedocles Jun 2019 #29
Correct! This is NOT comparable to a debate on any other subject! nt LAS14 Jun 2019 #30
Every candidate will have opportunities to discuss climate change MineralMan Jun 2019 #33
 

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
1. The DNC responded to why they aren't doing one debate on climate change
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 04:58 PM
Jun 2019

What the DNC is saying:

"[The] goal is to provide a platform for candidates to have a vigorous discussion on ideas and solutions on the many issues that voters care about, including the economy, climate change, and health care. While climate change is at the top of our list, the DNC will not be holding entire debates on a single issue area because we want to make sure voters have the ability to hear from candidates on dozens of issues of importance to American voters."

— DNC communications director Xochitl Hinojosa

https://www.axios.com/dnc-tells-inslee-no-climate-primary-debate-84f304e8-5a1c-4a94-87a6-cd63ee5234ec.html

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Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
5. this is a great misunderstanding of our times. climate change isn't a single issue. it is woven
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:12 PM
Jun 2019

into every issue going forward if we're going to take this serious.

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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
6. It will be woven into all the debates
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:15 PM
Jun 2019

The DNC is NOT doing a single issue debate.

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Magoo48

(4,701 posts)
17. The climate crisis is the one issue that deserves its own debate.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:13 PM
Jun 2019
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thesquanderer

(11,982 posts)
31. Why should it have its own debate? I think it's a bad idea.
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 09:10 AM
Jun 2019

First, far fewer people will tune in for a debate about the various Dems' positions on climate change, compared to one covering a wide range of issues that include climate change. In fact, people who don't already consider climate change a priority--that is, specifically, the people we most need to reach on this issue--are exactly the people who would not bother watching a debate that covered nothing else.

Plus, it's also one of the issues where I think there is not really so much diversity in our candidates' positions anyway. Basically, I think such a debate would probably amount to little more than Inslee proving he has more detailed plans than some of the others and that it will be his number one priority. Okay, fine, I'll give him that. I don't need to spend 90 minutes figuring that out.

Actually, if I were one of the other candidates, I'd simply say, "If I'm elected, I will appoint a 'climate czar' to oversee this issue, and I hope Jay Inslee will accept the position."

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mcar

(42,295 posts)
13. This sounds reasonable
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:49 PM
Jun 2019
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Magoo48

(4,701 posts)
16. With all due respect. Horseshit and gunsmoke.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:11 PM
Jun 2019

The DNC and most of the candidates are sluggish and resistant when it comes to our climate crisis. With what we’re facing, their attitudes are less than useless.

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LibFarmer

(772 posts)
2. "Our candidates"
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:02 PM
Jun 2019

are Democrats ... at least most of them are.

DNC is the governing organization of Democrats and establishes the rules.

Any candidate who doesn't like the rules can resign from the party and run as an independent.

In a nation of laws, rules and regulations, things are done with proper protocol and not by whim.

If every candidate wanted a debate on their pet issue, we will have chaos.

Furthermore, any candidate who wants to highlight a particular issue can do so in their allotted time during the existing debates.

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Triloon

(506 posts)
9. Climate change is not a "pet issue", and the DNC is not The Law.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:25 PM
Jun 2019

What you describe as proper protocol is in this case arbitrary authoritarian whim. If you're concerned to avoid actual chaos then you'd be in favor of public debate on climate solutions. Real chaos is on the way.
Your invitation to democrats to leave the party... ? Well, what can I say... it's our party, who are you?

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LibFarmer

(772 posts)
14. The DNC is run by ELECTED representatives
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 06:36 PM
Jun 2019

ELECTED by Democrats.

They are charged with making the rules. If you don't like the rules, get new people elected on the DNC boards and committees.

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Magoo48

(4,701 posts)
18. Biiiig Yawn..
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:22 PM
Jun 2019

Well, that’s inspirational... If there was ever a time think outside that antiquated box that time is now. We are facing survival issues which will require creative and powerful leadership. The old hummmhaaaaa just won’t get it.

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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
27. "DNC is the governing organization of Democrats and establishes the rules.
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 12:09 AM
Jun 2019

Any candidate who doesn't like the rules can resign from the party and run as an independent.
In a nation of laws, rules and regulations, things are done with proper protocol and not by whim. "


That sounds an awful lot like, do what you are told. If you don't like it, beat it.

I do not think that is the way Democrats generally think. In fact it sounds like a repressive, authoritarian way to run things...
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stonecutter357

(12,694 posts)
3. i'm not concerned at all .
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:02 PM
Jun 2019
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FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
4. Makes you wonder who is really on which side
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:07 PM
Jun 2019
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SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
10. It does? Please expand on that thought. NT
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:27 PM
Jun 2019
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Kaleva

(36,291 posts)
7. Does any candidate have a plan on adapting to climate change? Since it's already here...
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:18 PM
Jun 2019

and just going to get worse year after year. Or is the discussion going to be about closing the barn doors long after the horses have run off to the next county?

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mopinko

(70,070 posts)
12. inslee does. that's why he wants it.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:30 PM
Jun 2019

i can see both sides here.
it is the most pressing long term issue.
it is also inslee's main reason for running.

since we are all on the same side here, more or less, perhaps a debate isnt a good format to discuss it.
i mean, we arent gonna have a debate about abortion, either, but it matters hella lot to me.

inslee needs to get his own soapbox here.

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Magoo48

(4,701 posts)
19. Yes he does have a developed plan. Thank you for pointing that out.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:29 PM
Jun 2019

He and the others who’ve taken the time to seriously acquaint themselves with humanity’s most immediate issue should be rewarded.

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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
8. I agree. They shouldn't be kicked out of the debates because they participated in a non-DNC one.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:20 PM
Jun 2019

Since it's to focus on one issue in depth. This is a pressing issue. I'd like to hear more about their positions.

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Undecided
 

Magoo48

(4,701 posts)
20. I know, right. This is not the time for childish control issues.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:32 PM
Jun 2019
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SouthernProgressive

(1,810 posts)
11. I like the position of the DNC.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:30 PM
Jun 2019

Perez and team are really doing well.

Each candidate can try to negotiate a town hall on climate change only.

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FloridaBlues

(4,007 posts)
15. I agree hold a town hall event to get your message out. Do tear down the DNC we already
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 07:49 PM
Jun 2019

Went through that last cycle. With sooo many candidates it is bound to get messy.
Candidates knew the DNC agreement.

There's plenty of ways to get your message out other than a debate stage.

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Magoo48

(4,701 posts)
22. When the DNC becomes an archaic, vertical, close-minded power structure; it demands comment.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:38 PM
Jun 2019
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. I respect your position.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:47 PM
Jun 2019

But as a primary voter, I want to hear many issues being debated in the same debate. Each candidate has his or her one issue that out weight the rest. Climate action is a major need, but the DNC will have debate on that massive problem area.

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Duppers

(28,117 posts)
32. Yes.
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 10:38 AM
Jun 2019
New Survey Finds 3 Out Of 4 Americans Accept The Reality Of Climate Change

Jan 23, 2019 · A record number of Americans believe in climate change and the impact it’s creating on their daily lives. ... The survey, conducted by Yale University, polled 1,114 American adults on a number of topics related to climate change and global warming. ...

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.forbes.com/sites/trevornace/2019/01/23/3-out-of-every-4-americans-now-accept-climate-change/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwi4x9PejdriAhXKxFQKHZxDCQoQFjAAegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw03mlDGWqILY85WHlvEjPMB&cf=1

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GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
21. Don't like the DNC?
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:35 PM
Jun 2019

Vote for different democratic candidates.

The DNC is governed by people democrats choose.

Their goal is getting Democrats elected. Nothing else.

Perez and company are doing a decent job at that.

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Magoo48

(4,701 posts)
23. I would argue that their uninspired wish-wash will drive voters away.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:42 PM
Jun 2019

Not aggressively facing the most critical challenge in human history is weakness.

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GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
25. I would argue you are incorrect.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:54 PM
Jun 2019

Our performance in 18 is a result of DNC action. Only now are those on the left of the party realizing that a 50 state policy means more moderate democrats in Congress. They love have the majority. Hate that the majority is on the moderate side of liberal. Still liberal however.

The couple of freshman getting all the press won safe liberal seats. Those that gave us the majority are nothing like AOC. They are from right leaning districts. Speaker Pelosi knows this and is acting according.

If you are very far to the left, and I think I am, and feel Speaker Pelosi or the DNC is being too timid, there is a reason. And I get it. Most democratic voters and most Americans do not share many of my views. And liberal or moderate, if we are not in the majority we accomplish nothing.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
26. We have something like 24 candidates.
Fri Jun 7, 2019, 11:58 PM
Jun 2019

I can promise you that if each listed his or her top two issues, climate change will not make some of their top two. So it boils down to what is most important for a candidate.

But with the DNC format, 8-10 top issues get debated on. Inslee knows his stuff in the area of climate action, he should be able to beat up the others once that segment is debated. We understand how important it is for us to solve climate change, we don't need long descriptions of how dangerous it is. A solid plan for dealing with climate change can be described in 45 seconds, hell, I am down to 90 second showers, so describing a promising climate change action plan certainly should not take as long as it takes me to shower.

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JI7

(89,244 posts)
28. you find the over 24 Democrats uninspired ? are you unable to look into what each candidate
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 12:17 AM
Jun 2019

offers without the DNC having a debate on it ?

because the debate wont really tell much about the candidates either. it's more about performance and soundbytes . it's about how they hold up.

but there will be very little about actual issues and details.

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Undecided
 

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
29. Without getting rid of trump, and preserving our 20 seat red district gain in the House;
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 06:07 AM
Jun 2019

'good things' will not happen.

The first priority needs to be to maximize our November 2020 gains.

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LAS14

(13,780 posts)
30. Correct! This is NOT comparable to a debate on any other subject! nt
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 07:59 AM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
33. Every candidate will have opportunities to discuss climate change
Sat Jun 8, 2019, 11:03 AM
Jun 2019

in the debates, I guarantee. Still, there are many other issues that are important to voters, so there will be many other issues raised in those debates. Not everyone is totally focused on climate change, which is a very complex thing, and dependent on many other issues.

We'll hear the candidates views and proposals on climate change in the debates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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