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MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 11:16 AM Jun 2019

Will a single-issue Democratic primary candidate rise to the top?

Nope. Not going to happen. The narrower the scope of the issues a candidate thinks are important, the fewer the people that candidate will convince to support him or her.

As individual voters, a lot of us have a single issue that is the most important thing to us. We each get one vote. But, there are dozens of issues people feel that strongly about, so, a candidate who focuses primarily on one issue will only find supporters who share that focus. It's not a campaign strategy that will lead to becoming the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Will a single-issue Democratic primary candidate rise to the top? (Original Post) MineralMan Jun 2019 OP
Seems unlikely. Too many pressing issues that can't comradebillyboy Jun 2019 #1
You're right, of course. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #2
We need a very big tent. empedocles Jun 2019 #3
Already has aeromanKC Jun 2019 #4
Ah, well, OK! MineralMan Jun 2019 #5
It sure is! uawchild Jun 2019 #8
I doubt that a single issue candidate can win the nomination Gothmog Jun 2019 #6
I sure hope not. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #7
Name one candidate who runs on a single issue. Name one. This isn't just framing DU's views here. ancianita Jun 2019 #9
Your post outlines the Facts. Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #10
"Single issue" is the label we gave to Republicans over abortion's cover for controlling women, and ancianita Jun 2019 #11
There are single issue voters in both parties. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #13
Only this year: beating Trump. In other years, no. ancianita Jun 2019 #14
No, you are mistaken. BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #18
No one says "pet issue" here, as in "pet peeve." Let's stay clear about the seriousness of the ancianita Jun 2019 #27
K BannonsLiver Jun 2019 #28
But single issue candidates can force the issues for the party. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #12
a candidate with a defining issue can KayF Jun 2019 #15
Well, I think too much focus on a particular issue can MineralMan Jun 2019 #19
Now we see an attempt to turn Democrats against Jay Inslee. WTF? Laelth Jun 2019 #16
What an interesting reply... MineralMan Jun 2019 #17
I asked people to alert on MY POST, not yours. Laelth Jun 2019 #20
Bye, now... MineralMan Jun 2019 #22
LOL. You and I have been reading one another's work for about ten years. Laelth Jun 2019 #23
The difference is that I only post here, MineralMan Jun 2019 #24
There was a time when you posted elsewhere. Laelth Jun 2019 #25
Old Elm Tree, eh? MineralMan Jun 2019 #26
Who are you talking about? nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #21
 

comradebillyboy

(10,128 posts)
1. Seems unlikely. Too many pressing issues that can't
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 11:23 AM
Jun 2019

be put aside in favor of a single issue.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Turin_C3PO

(13,896 posts)
2. You're right, of course.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 11:24 AM
Jun 2019

A candidate has to appeal to voters on a wide range of issues.

I will say I’m glad Inslee is so focused on climate change because I believe it to be a future existential threat. I’m hoping if/when Biden wins that he’ll find a place for Inslee in his administration.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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empedocles

(15,751 posts)
3. We need a very big tent.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 11:33 AM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
4. Already has
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 11:33 AM
Jun 2019

Single issue: most likely to beat Trump

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
5. Ah, well, OK!
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 11:34 AM
Jun 2019

Yes. That is the single issue, isn't it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

uawchild

(2,208 posts)
8. It sure is!
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:22 PM
Jun 2019

And when/if that evaporates, when voters feel confidant that someone else can also safely beat Trump, what are you left with?

Bubkiss?

That's the problem with single-issue candidates. But to be fair, we're all joking. Biden isn't a single issue candidate. Eventually he will sink or swim based on the entirety of his positions.

All the candidates need to be strong on a broad slate of issues if they want to have even a chance of getting the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Gothmog

(144,884 posts)
6. I doubt that a single issue candidate can win the nomination
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:16 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,576 posts)
7. I sure hope not.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:19 PM
Jun 2019

Obviously not everyone has the same issue that is most important to them. I think we all, as Democrats, agree on at least the outlines, if not all the details, of certain issues: Health care, climate change, abortion, PoC and LGBT rights, etc., but your BIG issue might not be the same as mine. I agree that it isn't a good strategy for a candidate to concentrate on just one while giving little attention to the others. And yes, I understand, for example, Inslee's point that that climate change is the biggie in the sense that if the climate goes all to shit we won't be able to do anything about anything else. But the reality is that other things still matter to people and they want those issues addressed, too.

I suspect this is the reason the DNC doesn't want to hold a debate about climate change. It's not that they consider it unimportant (I, for one, would love for there to be such a debate), but that other candidates would also want separate debates about other issues. So besides the climate change debate maybe we'd also have a health care debate, a gun control debate, an abortion debate, a tax policy debate, a racism in policing debate, an LGBT rights debate, an impeachment debate, and so forth. As a practical matter it would be unworkable, people would watch only those relating to their pet issue, and with 24 candidates it would be chaotic and unhelpful.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
9. Name one candidate who runs on a single issue. Name one. This isn't just framing DU's views here.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:22 PM
Jun 2019

We all know who you're talking about.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. Your post outlines the Facts.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:36 PM
Jun 2019

Single issue voters were a killer last time around. You and I will do our best to change the minds of those voters,but a single issue Candidate is DOA. That idea will be the death of the Democratic Party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
11. "Single issue" is the label we gave to Republicans over abortion's cover for controlling women, and
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 12:48 PM
Jun 2019

immigration's cover for racism.

This is not a fair or principled framing of any candidate in the Democratic Party.

How do you now say that our party has anyone who does that? It's not true and you know it.

This is a multiple candidate, multiple issue party, and everyone here is supposed to support all the candidates, not label any of their strategies, and thereby them.

DU discussions using the "single issue" label has got to stop.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BannonsLiver

(16,288 posts)
13. There are single issue voters in both parties.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 03:20 PM
Jun 2019

It’s a term used in political science as well. I’m not sure why you think it’s a slur other than the fact perhaps you’re under the mistaken impression picked up somewhere along the line that it is.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
14. Only this year: beating Trump. In other years, no.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 05:14 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BannonsLiver

(16,288 posts)
18. No, you are mistaken.
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:32 PM
Jun 2019

People always have their pet issues. In some cases those issues can make them select a candidate, or select another one depending on the results. Your efforts to turn a commonly used word in political science into a slur is bizarre.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
27. No one says "pet issue" here, as in "pet peeve." Let's stay clear about the seriousness of the
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 04:54 PM
Jun 2019

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framing that's used here to exclude candidates rather than support them.

No one has to agree with candidates, but you won't see me or even a number of DU members set up a whole thread to set up single issues about the candidates.

"Single issue" is the common thread of Republican elections, so don't go telling me now that, now it's an okay poli sci term to call any issue a "single issue" -- you might as well tell me "both sides do it." WE Democrats don't use any "single issue" standard in judging our party's candidates. But I'll tell you which party does.

Single-issue politics are a form of litmus test; common examples are abortion, taxation, animal rights, environment, and guns. The National Rifle Association in the United States, which has only one specific interest, is an example of a single-issue group. What differentiates single-issue groups from other interest groups is their intense style of lobbying.

The term single-issue voter has been used to describe people who may make voting decisions based on the candidates' stance on a single issue (e.g. "pro-life" or "pro-choice", support for gun rights or gun control). The existence of single-issue voters can give a distorted impression: a candidate's overall views may not enjoy the same support. For example, a person who votes for a socially liberal Republican candidate, based solely on his or her support of abortion, may not necessarily share the candidate's other views on social issues, such as gun rights or family values.


From Wikipedia. Tell me again which party uses single issues.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aikoaiko

(34,161 posts)
12. But single issue candidates can force the issues for the party.
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 01:08 PM
Jun 2019

Its not all about winning the primary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

KayF

(1,345 posts)
15. a candidate with a defining issue can
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 05:38 PM
Jun 2019

Inslee with climate change, Warren with corruption in politics come to mind. Both of those issues could be seen to encompass more than the issues themselves.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
19. Well, I think too much focus on a particular issue can
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 12:43 PM
Jun 2019

hold a candidate back in a serious way. Elizabeth Warren is doing OK and rising in the polls. She's not actually a single-issue candidate at all. In fact, she has position papers and plans for a wide range of issues, and I believe that's why she's doing well right now.

Inslee focuses hard on the climate change issue, and is stuck at 1% or less in the polls.

That doesn't mean that Inslee does not have supporters. He does. It's just that voters have their own issue priorities and tend to make choices based on those, as well. If one candidate's highest priority issue doesn't match, they look elsewhere.

Which is not to say that climate change is not a crucial issue. It's just not the only crucial issue in this election year. Pretty much all of the Democratic primary candidates take climate change very seriously, but most of them also have positions on multiple issues that are of concern to voters. That seems to me to be a more effective campaign strategy for a presidential candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
16. Now we see an attempt to turn Democrats against Jay Inslee. WTF?
Sun Jun 9, 2019, 10:57 PM
Jun 2019

Dude, the more you pit Democrats against other Democrats--the more you attempt to turn us against one another--the more transparent you become. Jay Inslee is not a one issue candidate, and, even if he is, I suspect my children would appreciate his reminding the Democratic Party that climate change is the #1 threat to our entire species. Why attack him? Why bring this issue to our attention in the way you did in this OP? I have my suspicions about your motives, to be sure. After all, you and I have been reading one another's work (on multiple fora) for a long, long time.

Someone. Please alert on this post. I have had enough of MineralMan (one of the greatest concern trolls I have ever encountered on the internet), and I would be thrilled to have a jury consider this question. His latest OP, I posit, is a concern troll post, as is nearly everything else that MineralMan has ever posted on Democratic Underground.

So is this: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=145229

I could go on and on ...

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
17. What an interesting reply...
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 09:31 AM
Jun 2019

I posted my opinion about something here on DU. You disagree with that opinion. That's well within the purpose of DU and the Democratic Primaries forum. I don't mind if you disagree. Not at all.

But, then, you ask people to alert on my post, in hopes that a jury will decide to hide my post. That's a pretty strange thing to do, I think. Why ask others to do that? Why not alert on it yourself? I'm confused about those questions.

I will continue to post my opinions here. You can count on that. It's what I do on DU. And so will you, I imagine.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
20. I asked people to alert on MY POST, not yours.
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:51 PM
Jun 2019

I called you out, and I am pretty sure that’s a violation of DU rules.

No matter. I said what I needed to say. Hope you are well, old adversary.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
23. LOL. You and I have been reading one another's work for about ten years.
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 06:19 PM
Jun 2019

I doubt that's going to change. Instead, I will say, "bye for now."

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
24. The difference is that I only post here,
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 06:23 PM
Jun 2019

and never call you names or call you out for posting your opinion.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
25. There was a time when you posted elsewhere.
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 06:27 PM
Jun 2019

Perhaps you only post here now, but there was a time when you posted on Old Elm Tree and elsewhere. I have no shame in calling you what you are ... a concern troll, as evidenced by your continuous pitting of Democrats against other Democrats, and by your constant attempts to divide us from one another. That, at least, is what I have seen over the past ten years.

My best to you and yours, old adversary.

-Laelth

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
26. Old Elm Tree, eh?
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 08:24 PM
Jun 2019

Yes, I went there for a few days to defend myself and then left. Why? Because a nice person sent me a thread from a private forum on that site, where I was doxxed and threatened by some members there.

I spent a little time finding out who the people were in that thread and gave that information to my attorney. He sent a couple of cease and desist letters. He is really good with those.

So, yes, I did go there briefly. I've visited some other sites, too, but without posting on them.

A dozen years ago and more, I used to troll on a couple of right-wing sites, as well. I stopped bothering with that when Obama was elected.

For ten years, now, I've only posted here. You seem to know a good deal about me. That's interesting, but only to a minor degree. The past is the past, unless it isn't, I always say.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
21. Who are you talking about? nt
Mon Jun 10, 2019, 05:52 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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