Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:00 PM

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez refuses to back Bernie Sanders for 2020 election run against Trump

“Bernie Sanders is the frontrunner,” tweeted former Hillary Clinton staffer Zac Petkanas. “Let’s see how he likes it.”

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez refuses to back Bernie Sanders for 2020 election run against Trump

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez refuses to back Bernie Sanders for 2020 election run against Trump (Original post)	LongtimeAZDem	Feb 2019	OP
I'm a bit surprised by this	True Dough	Feb 2019	#1
Which is a good thing.	apnu	Feb 2019	#11
Totally agree with you	Catamount	Feb 2019	#26
AOC a progressive agitator? Really?! More like progressive hero in my book, like Bernie, her mentor.	InAbLuEsTaTe	Feb 2019	#30
Yes really.	apnu	Feb 2019	#39
Are you aware that Sen. Sanders picked Nina Turner as his campaign chair?	Demsrule86	Feb 2019	#40
The usual axes to grind just put in a different place. AOC is doing the right thing it's sad to	Autumn	Feb 2019	#2
Post removed	Post removed	Feb 2019	#3
Your posts are frequent and very repetitive about 2016.	R B Garr	Feb 2019	#5
I just trashed it. If I get replies to the posts I have made in here I will still get notifications	Autumn	Feb 2019	#6
We've seen nothing close to the shit show that went on in 2016	RandySF	Feb 2019	#10
This message was self-deleted by its author	QC	Feb 2019	#13
Doesn't matter	RandySF	Feb 2019	#15
Maybe you should look in the mirror before	Cha	Feb 2019	#22
I do not see why she HAS TO at this point.	Srkdqltr	Feb 2019	#4
Her sole introduction to the political world was promoting	R B Garr	Feb 2019	#8
Bernie didn't invent socialism and not all lefties follow his lead.	comradebillyboy	Feb 2019	#16
This thread is about AOC. Her history is as his follower.	R B Garr	Feb 2019	#18
She got elected on her own. And I don't think her 2018	comradebillyboy	Feb 2019	#19
She had campaign ads that echoed his messages.	R B Garr	Feb 2019	#21
Yep. I always knew this about her	backabby-blue	Feb 2019	#7
Me too!!	InAbLuEsTaTe	Feb 2019	#31
I'm surprised... AOC is learning the game fast, isn't she?	Blue_Tires	Feb 2019	#9
If one wantts to be an effective legislator one learns teamwork.	comradebillyboy	Feb 2019	#17
I wish we could make the media stop with the misleading breathless...	LAS14	Feb 2019	#12
Much ado about nothing	MontanaFarmer	Feb 2019	#14
Greetings from the GNP/Kalispell area!	Maru Kitteh	Feb 2019	#36
BFD Seems like she refuses to back anyone this early in the game...	TreasonousBastard	Feb 2019	#20
I'm pretty confident she loves the guy.	WeekiWater	Feb 2019	#23
Liking AOC more and more. nt	allgood33	Feb 2019	#24
This is surprising	Gothmog	Feb 2019	#25
I wonder how those House members that have worked their assess off for years	Eliot Rosewater	Feb 2019	#28
So much unnecessary stuff	empedocles	Feb 2019	#27
"Endorse Bernie!"	A-Schwarzenegger	Feb 2019	#29
So? If he by some concidence wins held be on his way to 80.	Historic NY	Feb 2019	#32
She is probably waiting	forklift	Feb 2019	#33
Well hey, thats life. Im sure Bernie won't lose any sleep over it.	CentralMass	Feb 2019	#34
Good for her!	Maru Kitteh	Feb 2019	#35
It makes no tactical sense for her to commit now	Recursion	Feb 2019	#37
Good call.	betsuni	Feb 2019	#38
Let her work on the Green New Deal..	disillusioned73	Feb 2019	#41
My opinion of her has gone up a notch.	NurseJackie	Feb 2019	#42

Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:03 PM

True Dough (16,065 posts)

1. I'm a bit surprised by this

but it is very early. She's being cautious and considering all options, like many DUers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to True Dough (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:21 PM

apnu (8,672 posts)

11. Which is a good thing.

AOC seems to be a team player. Sure she's progressive and agitates all from that area, and that's fine. But she's quickly working in and with the Party. Which is more than I can say about Bernie who is a Democrat when it suits him and an independent when it doesn't.

Plus, Bernie is a step backward. We don't need another old white guy telling us what to do. There are so many amazing women and non-whites and young people, with the same stances as Bernie. We frankly don't need him. And I think AOC has realized this also.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to apnu (Reply #11)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 08:13 PM

Catamount (1,762 posts)

26. Totally agree with you

K&R

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to apnu (Reply #11)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 08:48 PM

InAbLuEsTaTe (24,000 posts)

30. AOC a progressive agitator? Really?! More like progressive hero in my book, like Bernie, her mentor.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:36 PM

apnu (8,672 posts)

39. Yes really.

Her job is to agitate for change and she's doing that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #30)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 02:41 PM

Demsrule86 (67,154 posts)

40. Are you aware that Sen. Sanders picked Nina Turner as his campaign chair?

Any idea I had to maybe forgive and forget 2016 is now gone. I will vote for Sanders only if he is in a general. Nina Turner supported the Greens and Jill Stein during 16. She also said she was open to supporting non - Democratic candidates during her tenure at Our Revolution...very bad choice if you want support from Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:07 PM

Autumn (43,410 posts)

2. The usual axes to grind just put in a different place. AOC is doing the right thing it's sad to

see a former staffer attempt to make her out to be a petty woman.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to Post removed (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:13 PM

R B Garr (16,710 posts)

5. Your posts are frequent and very repetitive about 2016.

What irony.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:14 PM

Autumn (43,410 posts)

6. I just trashed it. If I get replies to the posts I have made in here I will still get notifications

or is this a glitch?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:17 PM

RandySF (51,270 posts)

10. We've seen nothing close to the shit show that went on in 2016

We were swamped with “new members” pummeled Hillary on a daily basis and disappeared after the convention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to QC (Reply #13)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:25 PM

RandySF (51,270 posts)

15. Doesn't matter

We’ve already discussing the primaries in the General Forum.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Thu Feb 21, 2019, 04:48 PM

Cha (289,533 posts)

22. Maybe you should look in the mirror before

accusing others?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:12 PM

Srkdqltr (5,290 posts)

4. I do not see why she HAS TO at this point.

Things are still moving. She would be smart to see who shakes out in the next few months.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Srkdqltr (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:16 PM

R B Garr (16,710 posts)

8. Her sole introduction to the political world was promoting

Bernie’s Democratic Socialism. Just a few months ago.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:29 PM

comradebillyboy (9,848 posts)

16. Bernie didn't invent socialism and not all lefties follow his lead.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #16)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:33 PM

R B Garr (16,710 posts)

18. This thread is about AOC. Her history is as his follower.

They mutually promoted candidates together for 2018, just a few months ago.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #18)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:37 PM

comradebillyboy (9,848 posts)

19. She got elected on her own. And I don't think her 2018

primary activity with Bernie won her any friends outside of the OR crowd. The folks she campaigned for mostly lost and she has to work with the winners now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #19)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:41 PM

R B Garr (16,710 posts)

21. She had campaign ads that echoed his messages.

Her name was on the ballot, obviously, not his. Obviously many lost.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:14 PM

backabby-blue (144 posts)

7. Yep. I always knew this about her

and it's why I like her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to backabby-blue (Reply #7)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 08:50 PM

InAbLuEsTaTe (24,000 posts)

31. Me too!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:17 PM

Blue_Tires (55,445 posts)

9. I'm surprised... AOC is learning the game fast, isn't she?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #9)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:32 PM

comradebillyboy (9,848 posts)

17. If one wantts to be an effective legislator one learns teamwork.

Being the Lone Ranger gets one a seat on the back bench.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:22 PM

LAS14 (13,629 posts)

12. I wish we could make the media stop with the misleading breathless...

... headlines. All she did was refrain from endorsing ANYONE at this point. Someone put the specific Sanders question to her and got the answer they would have gotten with any candidate's name. Is there anything I can do to register my opinions with news.Youtube? What is that, anyway?????

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:24 PM

MontanaFarmer (623 posts)

14. Much ado about nothing

There's no reason for her to declare her support for anyone at this point. Let's have a debate first, at least. Plenty of time for endorsements.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to MontanaFarmer (Reply #14)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:42 AM

Maru Kitteh (27,340 posts)

36. Greetings from the GNP/Kalispell area!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 01:39 PM

TreasonousBastard (42,876 posts)

20. BFD Seems like she refuses to back anyone this early in the game...

which is entirely proper.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 04:57 PM

WeekiWater (3,259 posts)

23. I'm pretty confident she loves the guy.

I'm also pretty confident she wants a fresh face and is probably looking for someone who isn't a career politician.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 07:08 PM

allgood33 (1,584 posts)

24. Liking AOC more and more. nt

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 08:04 PM

Gothmog (136,197 posts)

25. This is surprising

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #25)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 08:16 PM

Eliot Rosewater (30,868 posts)

28. I wonder how those House members that have worked their assess off for years

accomplishing many things with little to no recognition....never mind.

Here is sincerely hoping someone with this ENORMOUS amount of name recognition after ONE MONTH of holding office will propel her to greatness of achievements for all of us!

She helps pull off Medicare for All and climate change legislation and I will be her biggest supporter!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 08:14 PM

empedocles (15,751 posts)

27. So much unnecessary stuff

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 08:22 PM

A-Schwarzenegger (15,584 posts)

29. "Endorse Bernie!"

"No!"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 08:51 PM

Historic NY (37,057 posts)

32. So? If he by some concidence wins held be on his way to 80.

I want someone that going to stick around. Reagan was in decline at 78 when he left office. The Presidency ages people fast, look at Obama.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Thu Feb 21, 2019, 09:01 PM

forklift (401 posts)

33. She is probably waiting

for a time when her support would make a splash and maximum impact.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:37 AM

CentralMass (15,145 posts)

34. Well hey, thats life. Im sure Bernie won't lose any sleep over it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 03:40 AM

Maru Kitteh (27,340 posts)

35. Good for her!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:34 AM

Recursion (56,566 posts)

37. It makes no tactical sense for her to commit now

If she does make an endorsement it will be much later when it could be decisive.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 04:41 AM

betsuni (23,643 posts)

38. Good call.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:07 PM

disillusioned73 (2,872 posts)

41. Let her work on the Green New Deal..

she can announce before the NY primary..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Response to LongtimeAZDem (Original post)

Fri Feb 22, 2019, 05:24 PM

NurseJackie (42,862 posts)

42. My opinion of her has gone up a notch.

It remains to be seen if it stays that way.

All I'm saying is that I value and appreciate when people are thoughtful in the choices they make, and I consider that to be a plus.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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