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emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 04:17 PM Jun 2019

To beat Biden, his rivals must win in Iowa and New Hampshire

Poll of the week: A new Monmouth University Nevada Democratic caucuses poll finds that former Vice President Joe Biden leads with 36%. He was followed by Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren at 19%, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders at 13%, South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg at 7% and California Sen. Kamala Harris at 6%.
The poll was the first high-quality poll taken of the third-in-the-nation Nevada caucuses.
What's the point: The big question for most of the 2020 Democratic presidential field is how to beat front-runner Biden.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/15/politics/joe-biden-iowa-new-hampshire-poll/index.html

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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To beat Biden, his rivals must win in Iowa and New Hampshire (Original Post) emmaverybo Jun 2019 OP
They still can't win NYMinute Jun 2019 #1
People thought Hillary would sweep the South in 2008. Blue_true Jun 2019 #4
At this point customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #5
Let's see what develops over the next six months. comradebillyboy Jun 2019 #2
So not true. Bill Clinton didn't win either. Obama didn't win N.H. Dukakis didn't win Iowa. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #3
Someone pointed out the South. Blue_true Jun 2019 #6
I was going to point out that the Carolinas & that area seems more determinative.... Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #7
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
1. They still can't win
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 04:54 PM
Jun 2019

Biden will sweep the South.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
4. People thought Hillary would sweep the South in 2008.
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 11:19 PM
Jun 2019

Until Barack Obama upset her in Iowa.

I really think that if Senator Warren comes close to Joe Biden on Iowa, we have a totally new race and anything can happen from that point on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
5. At this point
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 11:22 PM
Jun 2019

I agree. But there is still time for something to change, either something that sinks Biden, or gives a boost to another candidate. I personally think that is unlikely, but stranger things have happened in the elections in my lifetime.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,136 posts)
2. Let's see what develops over the next six months.
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 05:53 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
3. So not true. Bill Clinton didn't win either. Obama didn't win N.H. Dukakis didn't win Iowa.
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 11:13 PM
Jun 2019

REPUBS have to win IA & NH. Not Democrats (although it is very helpful, and can end a campaign if he/she doesn't win those).

NPR says that for Dems, Iowa is more predictive.

https://www.npr.org/2016/01/31/465016222/how-predictive-are-iowa-and-new-hampshire

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
6. Someone pointed out the South.
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 11:24 PM
Jun 2019

With President Obama in 2008 and President Clinton in 1992, and Hillary in 2016, the South basically gave the race to them they performed so strong there. With Dukakis, other people split up the southern vote, so the WestCoast and North became more important and that favored him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
7. I was going to point out that the Carolinas & that area seems more determinative....
Sat Jun 15, 2019, 11:30 PM
Jun 2019

The southern east seems to be more determinative for Democrats. Esp if wins there follow a win in either IA or NH.

But the post was only about NH and IA.

IA and NH can kill a candidate's chances, though.

IA and NH wins are crucial for Republicans. Except when there's an incumbent.

https://www.npr.org/2016/01/31/465016222/how-predictive-are-iowa-and-new-hampshire

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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