Why Elizabeth Warren doesn't scare many moderate Democrats

[TexasTowelie]

CHARLESTON, S.C. -- Many moderate Democratic leaders have reached a surprising conclusion about Elizabeth Warren: They’d actually feel comfortable if she won the party’s presidential nomination.

She might be an unabashed liberal, they say, but at least she’s a talented candidate — and she’s much more acceptable than democratic socialist Bernie Sanders.

“The thing about Warren is that she is staying within the lines of what is manageable,” said Matt Bennett, co-founder of the center-left group Third Way, who also praised Warren’s recent visit in South Carolina as “very impressive.” “She believes in capitalism, amazingly we have to say this, but that matters. What she’s offering is not a rejection of capitalism.”

“She is not tipping over the edge into what is absolutely unsustainable in a general election,” he added. “Our principle problem with Sanders is that he has.”

Read more: https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/article231718348.html

[LAS14]

1. "Capitalism with rules." I've been...

...pushing for "progressive capitalism," but if she has caused "capitalism with rules," to get discussed in a wider area then that'll work too.

[grantcart]

10. I prefer democratic Capitalism but in any case Warren, like FDR proposes

Changes that will save capitalism not undermine it.

[elleng]

11. 'Regulated capitalism?'

UNREGULATED capitalism cannot thrive.

[Peacetrain]

21. Amen to that!

[rampartc]

2. i like liz and support her, but

the fact that Bernie scares the hell out of deplorables, conservatives, etc is a FEATURE, not a bug.

moderation and triangulation established the conditions for trump. we need to go forward, not back.

[W_HAMILTON]

5. He doesn't scare the hell out of deplorables, conservatives, etc.

They gladly used him and his candidacy as a cudgel against the Democratic nominee in 2016 and they are back doing it again this cycle -- hell, just last night, Trump was talking that same tired nonsense that the DNC cheated Sanders in 2016.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. Yet still the matchups show Biden, Sander's, Warren

In that order.

[George II]

3. There are very few of our Democratic candidates that scare me, but there are some that do.

[HopeAgain]

6. Same here

Especially those just barely right of center.

[still_one]

4. Warren has made it very clear she is a Democrat, not a Democratic Socialist

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/03/09/elizabeth-warren-socialism-south-by-southwest-bts-nr-vpx.cnn

Sanders burnt his bridges, and finalized it by hiring people to top positions in his campaign who voted for Jill Stein, and encouraged others to do likewise. While the dynamics may change, all signs indicate that he is not moving outside of his base.

This article from the OP encapsulates it perfectly.

[crazytown]

8. Why?

Elizabeth Warren & Chelsea Clinton, 2016 Convention.
Elizabeth is a team player.

[Gothmog]

14. I was seated three rows behind Senator Warren and little to the left

The Texas delegation was seated just behind the Mass. delegation. I saw Senator Warren several times during the convention

[Hortensis]

9. Not surprising. She IS a Democrat, real thing, and works from within

to improve wellbeing. The scope of Warren's ideas for using established government to create big advances always reminds me of FDR's amazing Secretary of Labor Frances Perkins. What she accomplished with FDR's power was huge and transformed the lives of working Americans.

That's not to say all will be comfortable with so many big ideas, but she's someone to trust.

[Irishxs]

12. I am a moderate and I believe in Elizabeth Warren, because I know what I'm getting.

I am getting a deep down democrat who is level headed and mature. She deals in specifics, has thought out every plan, and I trust her to do her best to carry out those plans. I’ll support the nominee with the exception of two—Gabbord or Sanders.

[WoonTars]

19. Can someone alert on this please...

"I'll support the nominee EXCEPT"... is a no-no...

[Irishxs]

23. Thx for heads up.

[ehrnst]

26. Your request fell on deaf ears, it appears.

[Gothmog]

13. someone's extra grouchy today. Must be Warren passing him in the polls

Link to tweet

[WoonTars]

15. Rightwing nutbag says what?

....

[Autumn]

16. Reading seems to be a skill sadly lacking. That's wasn't a slam on Liz.

Typical divisive horseshit. She's hardly "the “corporate wing” of the Democratic Party". She's one woman running for president with more in common with Bernie than she has with much of the party

[WoonTars]

18. Speaking of reading skills...

I was referring to Jennifer Rubin who never, ever stops attacking Bernie.. . Glad you found that amusing..

[Autumn]

22. I figured you were talking about her. She seems to have a hate on for Bernie.

But I don't see Bernie slamming Liz.

[Gothmog]

17. Sanders wants Democrats to think that Warren's gains are a function of moderates. They aren't

I am amused that sanders is so upset but sanders claim that moderate Democrats are the reason for Warren's rise is false. sanders is losing liberal members of the party https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/06/19/sanders-wants-democrats-think-that-warrens-gains-are-function-moderates-they-arent/?utm_term=.d25c4a40d7a0

Shortly before that poll came out, Sanders’s campaign lifted up a report from Politico that seemed as though it might help explain Warren’s improved position: She was gaining support from what Sanders called “the corporate wing” of the Democratic Party. Which is to say the party’s more moderate, less progressive arm, the segment of the party that, in Sanders’s framing, will pull out all the stops to curtail his economic revolution.....

It doesn’t take much reading between the lines here to understand Sanders’s argument: Centrists are circling around Warren (per Politico) because they are afraid of legitimate progressive positions like his own.

Setting aside the question of how robustly Sanders’s big-ticket policies differ from Warren’s, there’s another, bigger problem with that argument: It’s not what polls show is happening.

Link to tweet

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And so it does. In Monmouth’s polls over the past few months, Warren’s surge has been a function of voters who identify as liberals. In April, she earned 8 percent of the vote among those who identify as liberal. In the new poll, she moved into a tie with former vice president Joe Biden.

Biden’s in the overall lead in national primary polling because he fares much better than Warren, Sanders or anyone else among more moderate Democrats. In the most recent poll, Biden gets 40 percent of the moderate vote to Sanders’s 10 percent and Warren’s 6.

[Gothmog]

24. From Nate Silver-Warren is hurting sanders

Link to tweet

[TomSlick]

20. Sen. Warren reminds me of some of my law school professors - surprising huh?

She is wicked smart and not to be trifled with.

I would be happy with her as the nominee. It would be refreshing to have an intelligent president.

[Gothmog]

25. My son likes her because she is a bankruptcy professor

[JI7]

27. she actually explains what she wants to do and it just makes sense .

[Honeycombe8]

28. I'm a moderate. I'm not "scared" of any of the candidates.

But I don't want to vote for most of them. Warren included.

The ones I like the most are Buttigieg, Klobuchar, Beto. Three who don't have a chance of winning the nomination.