Democratic Primaries
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Sorry Bernie, but the billionaire class isn't so keen on Warren either. Plus people have a higher degree of confidence in Warren's ability to do all the things you list.
Your main problem isn't "the corporate wing of the Democratic Party." It's that, unlike 2016, Elizabeth Warren is running for President.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)And isn't it funny how he's no longer complaining about the millionaire class? I wonder why.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,184 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)sanders surrogates have attacking other candidates from the start of this process
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Zoonart
(11,866 posts)No SALE.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TheBlackAdder
(28,201 posts).
I think I know how this movie ends.
.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cary
(11,746 posts)Why does he disparage me?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
we can do it
(12,184 posts)What has bs done other than wag finger and dis actual Democrats?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cary
(11,746 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,237 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Credit where credit is due!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,184 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cary
(11,746 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The Democratic Party has been a broad based party for something like 70 years. It started with Humphrey and other democrats taking on the Dixiecrats in the forties.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Eustace is Useful
(35 posts)We've seen the movie, and the ending definitely left a sour taste on the party's palate. The Democratic Party, that is, not the Sanders Party of Vermont.
But hey, no need to despair! I'm a newb here, so you can report me any time you like.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,147 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,184 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Botany
(70,504 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
trueblue2007
(17,218 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)He is letting it be known that if he feels that he is being slighted, whether a valid complaint of not, he is going to create problems for us.
The old
"Really nice political party you folks have here, would be too bad if something bad happened to it"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Their concern may be well intentioned but is misdirected. They believe he cannot win, when all polling is on par with Joe Biden in head to head match ups with Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)on the part of centrists saying kind things about Warren. But Warren is not "anybody but Bernie." She's a much better Bernie for a lot of people.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Bernie is the best (only?) not moderate candidate we have. But for candidates to sign an anti Bernie pact -as Mayor Pete , Biden and others have done, certainly puts a bad taste in my mouth.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)Is she as progressive as Bernie? No, but she's damn close.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JI7
(89,249 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Bernie's plan is to make medical care accessible to everybody by abolishing private insurance and implementing guaranteed through medicare for all, so that Planned Parenthood is no longer a crucial medical need for rural and low income urban residents.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)make Planned Parenthood a provider for Medicare for all.
As far as I know it is Republicans who want to abolish Planned Parenthood. Not Senator Sanders or any of our Democratic Candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)However the need for Planned Parenthood right now as a non-profit filling the gap in accessible medical care, cancer screenings, etc. would not be the case, ideally, under a Sanders Administration. Planned Parenthood is one of the best organizations radically reducing the need for abortions around the country by providing sex education, contraception and birth control. Also, less than 5% of their funds (probably more like 1%) actually goes towards abortions. Everything else to basic medical care for low income residents. They would be an additional accessible/ affordable provider as you say, not, virtually the only one -as it is the case right now.
Republicans trying to abolish Planned Parenthood seem hellbent more on essentially kiling poor people by denying them basic medical care, as opposed to trying to prevent abortions.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
we can do it
(12,184 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)She is only slightly to the right of what I would consider "not moderate." But that is all absolutely, 100% okay.
From many standards besides an American one, Bernie would also fall under "moderate."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)They are quite similar in their policy stances. Warren is more of a policy wonk, where is Bernie is more of a big picture guy rather than getting into the nitty gritty details. There isnt much daylight between them on policy. And FWIW neither have policies that are socialist.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)And from my commie pinko perspective, not having a real socialist running is just too bad.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Until there are results, it's just talk.
And she's also impacted the conversation on income inequality more than anyone with the CFPB.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Very progressive but still moderate as progressives go. Feel free to read my other responses to the similar comments of yours.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)But I have a different standard than most here would have.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)Warren is every bit as left as Sanders. I would say she is more-so considering she actually has plans that are thought through. Not just the campaign piece bullet points that Sanders calls plans. She also has more interest in taking on dark money. Something Sanders truly didn't comprehend three short years ago.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)In actions and name. That in itself is a distinction that puts her ever so slightly to his right. And Bernie to me barely fits the mold of "not moderate," as European and international standards would have him solidly moderate, or even our standards in the 1950s up till the DLC had its way with our party.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)actual accomplishments, what does it matter what you say you are?
And what did the DLC do to the party?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Putting the center of american politics historically right wing compared to any other country or historical point in American modern history.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)Except in a stronger coalition building position than Sanders. A bit shocking that a sales gimmick is what you think makes him more to the left. Heads up for the DLC!
Warren is every bit as left, if not more. She is better spoken, more intelligent, showing she is a better campaigner, and an all around better and more consistent person.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
mcar
(42,331 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
But by comparison Obama was a right of center politician along with most of the Democratic party. Trump is a fascist dictator, and every Republican in this generation has brought the center of our American politics to the fringe of the extreme right wing. I would like to take it back.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)She gets it done.
She walks the walk.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Great argument for a moderate candidate like her. She still has yet to win more than the 23 primaries Bernie did. But I actually have no doubt she could.
Also some food for thought, not include Bernies success at pressuring Amazon to raise its minimum wage to 15 an hour. the cfpb is a great accomplishment, but
Bernie has her outdone with the vast accomplishments in his book.:
"Elected by the state of Vermont 8 times to serve in the House of Representatives.
The longest-serving independent in U.S. congressional history.
He was dubbed the amendment king in the House of Representatives for passing more amendments than any other member of Congress.
Ranking member on the Senate Budget Committee.
Former student organizer for the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC).
Led the first ever civil rights sit-in in Chicago history to protest segregated housing.
In 1963, Bernie Sanders participated in MLKs Civil Rights March. One of only 2 sitting US Senators to have heard MLKs I have a Dream Speech in person in the march on Washington, DC.
Former professor of political science at Harvard Universitys Kennedy School of Government and at Hamilton College.
Former mayor of Burlington, VT. In a stunning upset in 1981, Sanders won the mayoral race in Burlington, Vermonts largest city. He shocked the citys political establishment by defeating a six-term, local machine mayor. Burlington is now reported to be one of the most livable cities in the nation.
Co-founded the Congressional Progressive Caucus and chaired the group for its first 8 years.
Both the NAACP and the NHLA (National Hispanic Leadership Agenda) have given Sanders 100% voting scores during his tenure in the Senate. Earns a D- from the NRA.
1984: Mayor Sanders established the Burlington Community Land Trust, the first municipal housing land-trust in the country for affordable housing. The project becomes a model emulated throughout the world. It later wins an award from Jack Kemp-led HUD.
1991: one of a handful in Congress to vote against authorizing US military force in Iraq. I have a real fear that the region is not going to be more peaceful or more stable after the war, he said at the time.
1992: Congress passes Sanders first signed piece of legislation to create the National Program of Cancer Registries. A Readers Digest article calls the law the cancer weapon America needs most. All 50 states now run registries to help cancer researchers gain important insights.
November 1993: Sanders votes against the Clinton-era North American Free Trade Agreement. Returning from a tour of factories in Mexico, Sanders says: If NAFTA passes, corporate profits will soar because it will be even easier than now for American companies to flee to Mexico and hire workers there for starvation wages.
July 1996: Sanders is one of only 67 (out of 435, 15%) votes against the discriminatory Defense of Marriage Act, which denied federal benefits to same-sex couples legally married. Sanders urged the Supreme Court to throw out the law, which it did in a landmark 2013 ruling some 17 years later.
July 1999: Standing up against the major pharmaceutical companies, Sanders becomes the first member of Congress to personally take seniors across the border to Canada to buy lower-cost prescription drugs. The congressman continues his bus trips to Canada with a group of breast cancer patients the following April. These brave women are able to purchase their medications in Canada for almost one-tenth the price charged in the States.
August 1999: An overflow crowd of Vermonters packs a St. Michaels College town hall meeting hosted by Sanders to protest an IBM plan to cut older workers pensions by as much as 50 percent. CBS Evening News with Dan Rather and The New York Times cover the event. After IBM enacts the plan, Sanders works to reverse the cuts, passing a pair of amendments to prohibit the federal government from acting to overturn a federal district court decision that ruled that IBMs plan violated pension age discrimination laws. Thanks to Sanders efforts, IBM agreed to a $320 million legal settlement with some 130,000 IBM workers and retirees.
November 1999: About 10 years before the 2008 Wall Street crash spins the world economy into a massive recession, Sanders votes no on a bill to undo decades of financial regulations enacted after the Great Depression. This legislation, he predicts at the time, will lead to fewer banks and financial service providers, increased charges and fees for individual consumers and small businesses, diminished credit for rural America and taxpayer exposure to potential losses should a financial conglomerate fail. It will lead to more mega-mergers, a small number of corporations dominating the financial service industry and further concentration of power in our country. The House passed the bill 362-57 over Sanders objection.
October 2001: Sanders votes against the USA Patriot Act. All of us want to protect the American people from terrorist attacks, but in a way that does not undermine basic freedoms, Sanders says at the time. He subsequently votes against reauthorizing the law in 2006 and 2011.
October 2002: Sanders votes against the Bush-Cheney war in Iraq. He warns at the time that an invasion could result in anti-Americanism, instability and more terrorism. Hillary Clinton votes in favor of it.
November 2006: Sanders defeats Vermonts richest man, Rich Tarrant, to be elected to the U.S. Senate. Sanders, running as an Independent, is endorsed by the Vermont Democratic Party and supported by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.
December 2007: Sanders authored energy efficiency and conservation grant program passes into law. He later secures $3.2 billion in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 for the grant program.
September 2008: Thanks to Sanders efforts, funding for the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program funding doubles, helping millions of low-income Americans heat their homes in winter.
February 2009: Sanders works with Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley to pass an amendment to an economic recovery bill preventing Wall Street banks that take taxpayer bailouts from replacing laid-off U.S. workers with exploited and poorly-paid foreign workers.
December 2009: Sanders passes language in the Affordable Care Act to allow states to apply for waivers to implement pilot health care systems by 2017. The legislation allows states to adopt more comprehensive systems to cover more people at lower costs.
March 2010: President Barack Obama signs into law the Affordable Care Act with a major Sanders provision to expand federally qualified community health centers. Sanders secures $12.5 billion in funding for the program which now serves more than 25 million Americans. Another $1.5 billion from a Sanders provision went to the National Health Service Corps for scholarships and loan repayment for doctors and nurses who practice in under-served communities.
July 2010: Sanders works with Republican Congressman Ron Paul in the House to pass a measure as part of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street reform bill to audit the Federal Reserve, revealing how the independent agency gave $16 trillion in near zero-interest loans to big banks and businesses after the 2008 economic collapse.
March 2013: Sanders, now chairman of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, and backed by seniors, women, veterans, labor unions and disabled Americans, leads a successful effort to stop a chained-CPI proposal supported by Congressional Republicans and the Administration to cut Social Security and disabled veterans benefits.
April 2013: Sanders introduces legislation to break up major Wall Street banks so large that the collapse of one could send the overall economy into a downward spiral.
August 2014: A bipartisan $16.5 billion veterans bill written by Sen. Sanders, Sen. John McCain and Rep. Jeff Miller is signed into law by President Barack Obama. The measure includes $5 billion for the VA to hire more doctors and health professionals to meet growing demand for care.
January 2015: Sanders takes over as ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, using the platform to fight for his economic agenda for the American middle class.
January 2015: Sanders votes against the Keystone XL pipeline, which would allow multinational corporation TransCanada to transport dirty tar sands oil from Canada to the Gulf of Mexico.
March 2015: Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) introduced legislation to expand benefits and strengthen the retirement program for generations to come. The Social Security Expansion Act was filed on the same day Sanders and other senators received the petitions signed by 2 million Americans, gathered by the National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare.
September 2015: Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), Rep. Raúl M. Grijalva (D-Ariz.), Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) and Rep. Bobby L. Rush (D-Ill.) today introduced bills to ban private prisons, reinstate the federal parole system and eliminate quotas for the number of immigrants held in detention.
January 2016: Sanders Places Hold on FDA Nominee Dr. Robert Califf because of his close ties to the pharmaceutical industry and lack of commitment to lowering drug prices. There is no reason to believe that he would make the FDA work for ordinary Americans, rather than just the CEOs of pharmaceutical companies."
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)in a much, much shorter career than Sanders, as you pointed out. It's far easier to win office in a homgenous state like Vermont (98% white) than it is in a more diverse state like Massachusetts (White 78.92% Black or African American: 7.36% Asian: 6.28%).
Bernie lost his bid for Governor even with such a homogenous constituency, so there's that part of his electoral record.
Warren has the respect of her colleagues and her cirtics - This is from 2015, when she was a freshman, and she has since grown in influence. She has the ability to work well with others, which is neccessary to getting work done - beyond simply voting for bills. That is something that Sanders could stand to learn.
Even critics acknowledge that Warren's influence, particularly over federal agencies and her Democratic colleagues, goes beyond her fairly brief record of legislative accomplishment.
"She's both at the same time highly ineffective and influentialand I know that sounds inconsistent but it's not," one senior financial services executive, a Warren critic, said. "She has no legislative accomplishment other than to derail a few [nominees], which is easy to do. But to her credit, she is highly influential. Members of the House Democratic Caucus and Senate Democratic Caucus "¦ are really looking over their shoulders."
But perhaps more significantly, Warren displayed a restraint that has kept her, largely, in the good graces of her colleagues. Unlike Cruz and Sen. Mike Lee, to whom she often is compared, Warren made her opinion known and then allowed her colleagues to vote as they saw fit. Cruz and Lee, meanwhile, threatened to tank the whole funding package and kept their colleagues in Washington for a few late-night and weekend sessions ahead of their holiday recess.
Warren's restraint may have lost her the battle, but has earned her a tremendous amount of respect from her colleagues. Warren allies say that, coupled with her fundraising for candidates across the Democratic party spectrum, is what has helped to keep her relevant within the conferencethough thousands of avid supporters willing to put their votes and their dollars behind her ideology, and against those who oppose her, don't hurt either.
That's helped Warren to continue to hold outsized sway over the conversation among Democratic policymakers in Washington, particularly for a freshman. "Democrats in Congress were talking about cutting Social Security in 2012, and Warren got 42 of 44 Democrats to vote yes on expanding Social Security benefits instead," Adam Green, cofounder of the Progressive Campaign Change Committee said in a statement.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/is-elizabeth-warren-an-effective-senator/449349/
Also... if she's so "moderate" why is her rising base of support liberal?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)She isnt "so moderate" either. Shes just moderate compared to my ideal candidate (think the reincarnation of Marx )
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Good that you recognize that.
I think that politicians, women especially, are considered suspect by men on the left when they work well with others. Often, there is this idea that real power lies in making others submit to your will, "my way or the highway," and anything other than that is "sleeping with the enemy" no matter how much more effective it is at getting things done than telling anyone who doesn't shut up and do what they're told to go "f" themselves.
Pelosi and HRC have definitely targets of that mindset, and now Warren is going to be....
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)Except i dont think it is limited to "men on the left," especially as we are seeing them, warren, pelosi and aoc broadly targeted by mens rights activists and right wing groups specifically because of gender. Similar to the way that movies with prominent women are targeted by mens groups simply because they are women.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
we can do it
(12,184 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If so, can you post it?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,524 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KPN
(15,645 posts)Hopefully, between supporters of the two, there are enough to continue to pull the Party back to at least left-center on economic issues and actually make these a priority followed up by results.
Its also true that Sanders did a lot, probably more than anyone else, to pave the way for folks like Warren. He deserves credit for that rather than disparagement.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)I always thought he was waiting for Warren to jump in and then he jumped in when she passed. She was always the better progressive candidate IMO. Now four years later she's demonstrating it and he's alleging dark conspiracies. If he's coming in for disparagement from people who actually like what he brought to the table four years ago that's on him.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)According to Jane, he asked her what she thought about him running - not Warren.
She said that she told him that she didn't want him to.
Take what you will from that concerning what he thought of anyone else's opinion about his candidacy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)I dont think he wouldve had Warren thrown her hat in the ring.
It doesnt matter anymore. This is a very different race and he shouldnt be surprised that Warren is rising at his expense.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)When did she announce that she was considering running?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)But she apparently did consider it.
According to the Wall Street Journal, Warren even acknowledges such in her upcoming book, which is set to be published next week. The Journal which obtained an advance copy of the book, This Fight is Our Fight, from a conservative opposition research group reports the Massachusetts Democrat went to her husband, Harvard professor and historian Bruce Mann, for his thoughts on running in early 2015.
I knew what he would say first, Warren wrote, and he said it: I want you to do whatever you want to do. Ill be there.'
While Mann was supportive, he also noted that the 2016 race looks pretty terrible, even compared to Warrens notoriously ugly 2012 Senate race against Republican incumbent Sen. Scott Brown.
The Senate thing was bad enough, and running for president would be worsea lot worse, Mann reportedly said.
Despite Manns support, Warren wrote she wanted to stay buckled down and keep doing [her] job in the Senate, according to the Journal.
Instead, Warren reportedly met one-on-one with Hillary Clinton in February 2015, during which Clinton reportedly solicited policy ideas and suggestions from the senator, who at the time was and continues to be one of the leading progressive political voices.
Her decision not to run effectively opened a lane for fellow Sen. Bernie Sanderss insurgent primary campaign against Clinton, who ultimately won the nomination in a closer-than-expected race leading some to wonder whether Warren could have won, if she ran.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Not seeing that in the article.
And there's this, which shows a preview of what we saw with him on Twitter this week:
"I think people understand there is something profoundly wrong today with establishment politics, that we need some bold ideas to resurrect the middle class in this country, to address poverty, to address income and wealth inequality," Sanders told reporters in New Hampshire.
https://www.cnn.com/2015/08/25/politics/elizabeth-warren-joe-biden-elections-2016/index.html
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)I like Bernie a lot, but I think its a little insulting to Warren to say he paved her way. There were left-liberals before Bernie. They paved the way for him. I guess in the long run they are all standing on the shoulders of giants. Progressivism and Left-Liberal policy has a long history.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KPN
(15,645 posts)from having paid attention to progressives that Bernie was far more visible and declarative about economic inequities of our system and policy than just about anyone for perhaps a decade or more. He legitimized what a lot of people were thinking as well as woke a lot of folks up over those years. All of those folks are voters. That's what I mean by paving the way.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cary
(11,746 posts)I am a Democrat as opposed to a Republican. We Democrats are a coalition and we are one.
When you speak of "they" and you include yourself you say to me that you are not a Democrat. And if you are not a Democrat then you must be part of the Republican coalition.
Is that what you mean to tell me?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
W_HAMILTON
(7,867 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kahuna7
(2,531 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
question everything
(47,479 posts)Many of his supporters stayed home and a certain percentage, verified, actually voted for Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SHRED
(28,136 posts)I met more than one person who said they'd never vote for Hillary. It was very disturbing.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
we can do it
(12,184 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)and throws his support to Warren.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,372 posts)They think she is helping steal Bernie's post-2016 birthright.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,184 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)I like Bernie and the issues he's campaigning on, but this won't help attract new voters. He's trying to run like it's 2016 again. I thought (hoped) he and his campaign team would have learned lessons from the last campaign, and they have, but there's still glaring weaknesses in their strategy.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)Fully agree; bad mistake. It's devoid of substance.
Forget the dark plots, why are you the best candidate?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
yaesu
(8,020 posts)are our only enemy, a target rich environment.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)He is desperately trying to hold his base together. He is outing himself for what most of us already understood about him.
That is flat out a Trump style tweet. Why did he hire such shady people to run his campaign if he was going to tweet things like this. This is something you keep an arms distance from. On top of that, the arrogance. Wow. This is conspiracy paranoia kind of stuff.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,237 posts)Jill Stein voters would help his campaign but it seems to have had the opposite effect so far.
Wonder whose brilliant idea the .. "... cat out of the bag.. corporate wing " tweet was? Sirota? Sounds like him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,147 posts)to work for him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SouthernProgressive
(1,810 posts)It would still make it out to and excited his angry and fear driven base while not being directly from him. Conspiratorial paranoia isn't a good look.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,237 posts)advisors.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Being as how so many of them stated that they could not be sexist because they would totally support her if she ran for POTUS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)Anyone who gets in Bernie's way must be vilified and destroyed in their eyes.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NYC Democrat
(295 posts)Trying to make her into the Devil like they did Hillary. It's not about policy to them, it's about Bernie Sanders. It's just a personality cult.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(25,524 posts)Hillarybeth!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)Warrens actual record and policy proposals.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)I'm going to vote for Democrats, though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Politicub
(12,165 posts)Its bizarre and off key. I cant seem to put my finger on exactly why, though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,184 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden