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G_j

(40,367 posts)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 01:59 PM Jun 2019

So, What's the Difference Between Warren and Sanders?

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/06/13/so-whats-difference-between-warren-and-sanders?fbclid=IwAR2UDGTEwtLEpmGUI9gGS9-N4kwspC6Tz5CjMg_lbKWpHFcTKrlO5Go5R_4

Much of it comes down to the matter of regulation vs. revolution

byElizabeth Bruenig


Last time he ran for president, Bernie Sanders found himself odd man out in a race against Hillary Clinton, whose establishment bona fides and years of White House experience propelled her, in the end, to the nomination. But this cycle's primary map is unfolding along more nuanced lines, with two very progressive candidates, among 21 others, on offer. And it is becoming one of the key questions in the race: What is the difference between Sanders (I-Vt.) and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.)?

In a sense, Sanders's speech Wednesday in defense of democratic socialism seemed to answer that question at a moment when it feels most urgent. Warren has been gaining in polls lately, sealing her spot as a top-tier candidate in the crowded field and even running ahead of Sanders in a pair of new national polls. Though her campaign stumbled through a rocky start, she has steadily earned a reputation as a dogged performer and a candidate with a plan—or with several plans, routinely offering up detailed policy proposals for solving problems from student debt to unaffordable child care. She also supports Medicare-for-all and has forsworn big campaign donors.



For Warren, the solution to our economic ills already exists in well-regulated capitalism. "I believe in markets," she said in a recent podcast interview. "I believe in the benefits that come from markets, that two people coming together, or two companies, or a company and a person coming together to exchange goods and services, yay." Warren believes today's socioeconomic ills are the result of high concentrations of power and wealth that can be resolved with certain regulatory tools and interventions. If corporate chief executives and financiers behave badly, she says, we should jail them—no special rules for the rich. If companies grow so large that they exert undue control over our markets and our lives, the government should break them up. If companies ignore consumers and employees to benefit shareholders, eliminate their incentives with regulatory curbs.

But for Sanders, those solutions come up short. For a number of reasons—alienation and disengagement among the electorate, and the extraordinary power of big business and finance over government—he doesn't believe that even the cleverest, most uniformly applied regulations will solve what he views as a political and economic crisis. Instead, he aims to transfer power over several key segments of life to the people—by creating a set of universal economic rights that not only entitle citizens to particular benefits (such as medical care, education and child care) but also give those citizens a say in how those sectors are governed: in short, democratic socialism. And that means building a movement, not just a presidential campaign.

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So, What's the Difference Between Warren and Sanders? (Original Post) G_j Jun 2019 OP
Warren has the great policy but without all the baggage. -nt. Amimnoch Jun 2019 #1
One is a Democrat still_one Jun 2019 #2
DING DING DING DING Zoonart Jun 2019 #5
You beat me to it n/t NastyRiffraff Jun 2019 #18
Warren can actually discuss and explain her policies JI7 Jun 2019 #3
Warren is better for red states on gun-policy. Shell_Seas Jun 2019 #4
Warren's a Democrat. She has specific policies, which she can explain clearly The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #6
Post removed Post removed Jun 2019 #7
Warren didn't lose to the person who lost to Trump. Runningdawg Jun 2019 #8
Warren wasn't a whiny crybaby Fresh_Start Jun 2019 #9
July 28 to September 5. George II Jun 2019 #12
Warren is a feminist and supports planned parenthood JI7 Jun 2019 #10
Warren won't change her party affiliation halfway through the 2020 Democratic National Convention. George II Jun 2019 #11
nice of ya'll to answer the question G_j Jun 2019 #13
I read the article. My comment stands. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2019 #14
well actually G_j Jun 2019 #16
Warren was Instrumental in the Creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau dlk Jun 2019 #15
From my twitter feed Gothmog Jun 2019 #17
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
1. Warren has the great policy but without all the baggage. -nt.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:01 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Zoonart

(11,866 posts)
5. DING DING DING DING
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:03 PM
Jun 2019
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NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
18. You beat me to it n/t
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 04:08 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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JI7

(89,249 posts)
3. Warren can actually discuss and explain her policies
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:01 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Shell_Seas

(3,333 posts)
4. Warren is better for red states on gun-policy.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:03 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
6. Warren's a Democrat. She has specific policies, which she can explain clearly
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:05 PM
Jun 2019

without having to resort to 60s-era jargon, and she also explains how her goals might be accomplished and her programs paid for, which Bernie has never been able to do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Runningdawg

(4,516 posts)
8. Warren didn't lose to the person who lost to Trump.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:08 PM
Jun 2019
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Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
9. Warren wasn't a whiny crybaby
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:09 PM
Jun 2019

after losing....
Warren didn't take her ball home for 6 weeks when she should have been helping the democratic party

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George II

(67,782 posts)
12. July 28 to September 5.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:28 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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JI7

(89,249 posts)
10. Warren is a feminist and supports planned parenthood
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:14 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
11. Warren won't change her party affiliation halfway through the 2020 Democratic National Convention.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:26 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

G_j

(40,367 posts)
13. nice of ya'll to answer the question
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:29 PM
Jun 2019

but I don’t see any evidence anyone actually read the article. Not surprised..

If I were to vote in a presidential
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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
14. I read the article. My comment stands.
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 02:43 PM
Jun 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

G_j

(40,367 posts)
16. well actually
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 03:04 PM
Jun 2019

yours has substance, and relates to the article, so I take that back..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dlk

(11,566 posts)
15. Warren was Instrumental in the Creation of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 03:02 PM
Jun 2019

Warren has a proven track record.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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