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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Forget Biden, Warren v Sanders is the Real Story Right Now
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/prime-beta/forget-biden-warren-v-sanders-is-the-real-story-right-nowA lot of perceptions about the 2020 race have shifted over the last couple weeks, whether the underlying reality has changed is another matter. To me though the biggest story isnt Biden v Trump or Biden v Bernie or Biden v Warren. All the traction and energy and significance at the moment is the battle between Sanders and Warren, which among its other oddities is only implicitly being joined, at least from the Warren side.
Sanders campaign and especially his supporters have taken to attacking Warren over her ties to the Democratic establishment, alleged failures to adequately address health care policy issues and more. The key thing here is that Sanders campaign recognizes, accurately, that their real fight is with Warren. Hopefully for Democrats the great majority of every candidates supporters will eventually consolidate behind the nominee. But especially reduced to his more ideological supporters (around 15% support as opposed to near 25% support earlier in the spring) Sanders isnt going to lose those people to Biden. The two are just running totally different kinds of campaigns ideologically, strategically and tonally. But he could lose a large chunk of them to Warren, who is running a distinct but still similar kind of campaign. Theres good evidence he already is. He will also need to reclaim a significant amount of support from Warrens supporters to get back to something approximating a two person battle between him and Biden.
A couple months ago, Sanders was close to a tie with Biden, though usually a measurable margin behind. Hes now fallen dramatically while Warren has edged her way up to the point where hes nearing a tie with her. What stands out most about Warren in recent months is her sheer indefatigability. Shes everywhere. Doing everything. Releasing plans on everything. The contrast with Biden and Sanders is striking. And slowly she seems to be clawing her way up the polling ladder.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Forget Biden, Warren v Sanders is the Real Story Right Now (Original Post)
comradebillyboy
Jun 2019
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It is a shame Sanders' team feels they need to deploy questionable hit jobs to tear Warren down.
emulatorloo
Jun 2019
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emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)1. It is a shame Sanders' team feels they need to deploy questionable hit jobs to tear Warren down.
Bernie has a lot of strengths, they should play up his stengths. Not sure the primary electorate is in the mood for this kind of negative campaigning.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JI7
(89,249 posts)2. disagree, Warren is doing well in itself, regardless of anything having to do with Sanders
in fact many supporting Warren are those who moved to her from candidates other than Sanders.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JustAnotherGen
(31,823 posts)3. Very interesting
I just hope ALL of the Candidates remember -
1 Person is going to win the Nomination and that 1 person cannot go into the GE with talking points, slams and insults handed on a silver platter to the GOP.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)4. No i will not Forget Biden !
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,242 posts)5. This will be fun to watch
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden