Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWhy Bernie Talks About the New Deal
Many in the pundit class claim to be confused about Bernie Sanderss big socialism speech. For one thing, what was Franklin Roosevelt doing in it?
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Some of these observers, of course, were reactionary Republicans. Senator John Bricker of Ohio, for example, the 1944 GOP vice-presidential nominee, liked to rant about how Communist forces have taken over the New Deal.
But they also included progressive Democrats like Al Smith, the Irish-American former New York governor, whose 1928 presidential campaign had mobilized millions of immigrant voters with its inclusive message opposing nativist bigotry. Smith was a lifelong Democrat, but like many leading Democrats today he felt distaste for demagogues that would incite one class of our people against the other. By the end of FDRs first term, Smith had seen enough of the New Deal.
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It wasnt only red-baiting opponents of socialism who saw the resemblance. So did many socialists including Norman Thomas, the longtime leader of the Socialist Party of America. In the words of his biographer, Thomas viewed Roosevelts program for reform of the economic system as far more reflective of the Socialist Party platform than of his own [Democratic] partys platform, in particular its embrace of a shorter workweek, public works, abolition of sweatshops, a minimum wage, unemployment insurance, and old-age pensions. Though always highly critical of Roosevelt who never embraced our essential socialism Thomas acknowledged that FDR built a rudimentary welfare state by adopting ideas and proposals formerly called socialist and voiced in our platforms beginning with Debs in 1900.
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https://www.jacobinmag.com/2019/06/new-deal-socialism-bernie-sanders-democratic-primary
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The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,693 posts)He saw that federal spending was necessary to stimulate the economy and to relieve the suffering of the people who had lost their jobs and had no source of income. However, FDR was never a socialist, and in fact has been credited by many historians with saving capitalism - because if his government hadn't stepped in to help those harmed by the Depression, various socialist and communist parties would have become popular.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)the fact is in 1944 he advocated for an expansion of it in the form of health care being a right for every American and his "Second Bill of Rights," unfortunately Roosevelt died a year later before he could see his dream/vision achieved.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Bill_of_Rights
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George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sop
(10,177 posts)Since the Reagan era, Republicans have been trying to dismantle many of the New Deal policies created by FDR, while Progressives (like Sanders and others) have been trying to improve upon these programs.
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Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)standpoint to the days of Reagan and from a political/social standpoint to the days of McCarthyism when ideals and political expression were demonized. That's the path we're on now and Trump is the result.
Bernie wants to lead us down "the road not taken" and of which FDR promoted but didn't survive to see fulfillment.
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corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)which I took to mean that, as he Bernie sees it, FDR didn't have a chance to implement the initial stages of the second phase of The New Deal.
Since you mentioned regression under Reagan, I'd like to remind everyone that a big moment in that movement in the wrong direction was Reagan's firing of the air traffic controllers.
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corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)Per Merriam-Webster, synonyms for the noun progress include advancement and furtherance.
http://merriam-webster.com/dictionary/progress
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