Justice Democrats' Waleed Shahid weighs in on Bernie's twitter comments on Warren

[ehrnst]

[George II]

1. Wow, that is a surprising position to take. Hats off to Mr. Shahid.

[JaneQPublic]

2. Elizabeth said she's a capitalist. (nt)

[ehrnst]

3. Bernie isn't? (nt)

[JaneQPublic]

7. What a dumb question. (nt)

[ehrnst]

8. How so?

He sells his books on Amazon and at WalMart.

He states he has no reason to apologize for making millions of $$ from that.

[mcar]

21. Yep

[emulatorloo]

32. Sander's policy proposals are left-liberal. They aren't "socialist" in any way.

He is a strong candidate, I don’t understand why his staff has started this fight. They should emphasize his strengths, especially before the upcoming debate.

[Me.]

4. Someone Is Feeling Pretty Sorry For Themselves Today

And you deal with the party you have...just as HRC did

[saidsimplesimon]

5. sorry ehrnst, I'm old,

with excellent eye sight, hearing and the brain still has all of its working parts. Nonsense

We keep our eyes on the prize. The dungeons of history await those who do not.

[ehrnst]

6. What is "nonsense?"

What Sanders said, or what Waleed said?

[saidsimplesimon]

9. We may not agree.

Nonsense is Democrats attacking other Democrats instead of moving forward with due speed toward our final objective. Sorry for all the military double speak.

[ehrnst]

11. You mean like Democratic candidate Sanders' statements that equate

Democratic Candidate Warren with being a "corporate" candidate?

That kind of 'attacking?'

[saidsimplesimon]

13. Does anyone really think

Senator Sanders has any chance of winning our Democratic Primary? Just radio interference imo

[ehrnst]

14. Many, many here on DU do.

Many therefore believe that if he doesn't, that nefarious activity on the part of the DNC is the reason why.

[mcar]

23. What does that have to do with his silly attack?

[pnwmom]

19. Are you criticizing Bernie for attacking Warren and other Democrats? n/t

[saidsimplesimon]

22. No,

Warren is a candidate for our Party, I do oppose op-eds from someone who labels themselves as Independent running as a Democrat. Is that an idea not ready for the times?

[pnwmom]

24. But Bernie is an Independent running as a Democrat.

He has already registered for the next Vermont Senate election as an Independent.

[Gothmog]

10. someone's extra grouchy today. Must be Warren passing him in the polls

Link to tweet

[sheshe2]

15. Yikes.

When you lose Justice Democrats. Just wow!

He is getting some bad advice from Nina or perhaps Jane who is said to be his closest adviser.

[Cha]

17. Ikr, she.. I had

to read that a couple of times to make sure I understood it.

It should be the other way around.. but Nooooo.

Link to tweet

[sheshe2]

42. Love my Senator more every day.

I wasn't sure at first. She has exceeded my expectations.

[emulatorloo]

33. To be honest, this sounds like David Sirota "strategery".

Odd to attack Warren right before the debate, I think.

Bernie is a very strong candidate. Staff needs to emphasize his strength before the debates rather than pick fights w allies. JMHO, probably worth nothing.

[sheshe2]

44. Hey, em.

Your opinions, so fair and balanced mean a lot to me.

Good to see you.

[emulatorloo]

46. ...

Right back at you!

[sheshe2]

47. +100

I peeked tonight.

[crazytown]

35. I see this as the JDs

attempting to hitch their wagon to a fitter horse.

I say 'attempting', because they are liable to get bucked.

[Cha]

16. Wow.. Waleed is against what

BS tweeted?!

[Gothmog]

18. Sanders wants Democrats to think that Warren's gains are a function of moderates. They aren't.

I am amused that sanders is so upset but sanders claim that moderate Democrats are the reason for Warren's rise is false. sanders is losing liberal members of the party https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/06/19/sanders-wants-democrats-think-that-warrens-gains-are-function-moderates-they-arent/?utm_term=.d25c4a40d7a0

Shortly before that poll came out, Sanders’s campaign lifted up a report from Politico that seemed as though it might help explain Warren’s improved position: She was gaining support from what Sanders called “the corporate wing” of the Democratic Party. Which is to say the party’s more moderate, less progressive arm, the segment of the party that, in Sanders’s framing, will pull out all the stops to curtail his economic revolution.....

It doesn’t take much reading between the lines here to understand Sanders’s argument: Centrists are circling around Warren (per Politico) because they are afraid of legitimate progressive positions like his own.

Setting aside the question of how robustly Sanders’s big-ticket policies differ from Warren’s, there’s another, bigger problem with that argument: It’s not what polls show is happening.

Link to tweet

?
And so it does. In Monmouth’s polls over the past few months, Warren’s surge has been a function of voters who identify as liberals. In April, she earned 8 percent of the vote among those who identify as liberal. In the new poll, she moved into a tie with former vice president Joe Biden.

Biden’s in the overall lead in national primary polling because he fares much better than Warren, Sanders or anyone else among more moderate Democrats. In the most recent poll, Biden gets 40 percent of the moderate vote to Sanders’s 10 percent and Warren’s 6.

[pnwmom]

20. Yes -- I've talked to quite few people who've left Bernie for Elizabeth. And he probably has, too.

[Gothmog]

50. It is liberals who going to Warren

Link to tweet

[Peacetrain]

25. I knew it was just a matter of time before they came after her..

Hang in there Sen Sanders..

[aikoaiko]

26. I don't see any mention of Warren. How is Bernie's tweet anti-Warren?

[ehrnst]

29. His original tweet:

He basically reduced Democratic support for her to supporting "anybody but Bernie," by "corporate wing of the Party."

That's really an insult.



Sanders wants Democrats to think that Warren’s gains are a function of moderates. They aren’t.

It doesn’t take much reading between the lines here to understand Sanders’s argument: Centrists are circling around Warren (per Politico) because they are afraid of legitimate progressive positions like his own.

[Cha]

34. Call me crazy.. but I think

that strategy is terrible!

Is this the result of the 3rd party hires, Sirota, Turner, and Gray? That we warned against when it was first reported?

[LibFarmer]

27. Intrigue

He didn't say "democratic socialist" .. he said "social democrat"

[ecstatic]

28. Who is in charge of Bernie's account? Is he really the one authoring

those ridiculous & divisive tweets or has he left it to a social media manager? I assume the latter. He needs to fire that person ASAP!

[ehrnst]

30. My understanding is that nothing - not even a fundraising email - goes out without his approval. /nt

[Cha]

31. That's what we've been told..

That BS is Mr micromanager.

[emulatorloo]

36. The tweet sounds more like Sirota or Briahna Joy Gray than Senator Sanders to me.

I understand he and Warren have a close relationship in the Senate. I don’t see him attacking one of his allies in this way.

Sirota and Gray will attack anyone for being a “moderate” “centrist” “establishment” figure, even if those people are left liberal like Warren is. Wouldn’t surprise me if Senator Sanders apologized to Senator Warren at the debate for that tweet.

JMHO of course.

[crazytown]

37. Sirota

He's oblivious to the fact that Bernie is losing to a woman (again).

[ehrnst]

38. He hired them for a reason. (nt)

[Cha]

40. Yeah, he did.

[Cha]

39. It does sound like Sirota,

the Jill Stein fan, who BS hired for his senior advisor.

I don't see BS having it tweeted in his name and not approving it, though.

Whomever originated it.. it's going over like the proverbial lead balloon.

We'll see if he "..apologizes to EW..".

[betsuni]

41. To me it sounds just like his speeches.

I have the feeling that Warren knows insinuations of corruption are coming because that's what he always does. He literally thinks he's the only uncorrupted one.

[Cha]

45. Yeah.. It sounds like Sirota.. why

BS hired him.. but it also sounds like BS. We've seen this even before Sirota entered the scene officially.

[NYMinute]

43. Looks like Justice Democrats

are seeing the handwriting on the wall and are throwing Bernie under the bus in favor of Senator Warren.

[betsuni]

48. Uh oh, Justice Democrats, don't be surprised if you're next in line to be called "establishment."

Bernie thinks everybody's out to stop him and he's making it come true all by himself!

[Cha]

49. So ironic.

[ehrnst]

51. If he's fine with consigning Planned Parenthood to the "garbage can" he labels "establishment"

why not Justice Democrats?

If you do not walk in lockstep behind him, you will be 'shunned,' no matter how progressive one is.