Joe Biden is a seriously flawed candidate.

[Voltaire2]

He is tone deaf and out of step on numerous issues. He routinely sabotages his own campaign with gaffes. His handlers are so worried about the disconnect between where the party is on many issues and where Biden is that they are basically keeping him offline as much as possible.

We have now had several missteps: his Anita Hill non-apology, his joking about sexual abuse, the Hyde amendment nonsense, and now his Eastland gaffe. We haven’t even gotten to the first debate yet.

We need a better candidate and we have many excellent options.

[BannonsLiver]

1. So vote for someone else then?

[Voltaire2]

2. I will. You should too. We all should.

He’s the wrong choice.

[redstatebluegirl]

6. You are entitled to your opinion I don't share it.

[BannonsLiver]

8. Thanks, but I can figure it out for myself.

Words here have no influence on that one way or another.

[USALiberal]

105. LOL, so no matter what "WORDS" you here about Biden, you would never not vote for him??? nt

[Cha]

72. No.. I don't consider your opinion on Joe Biden.

[redstatebluegirl]

126. You are entitled to your opinion.

I do not share it.

[robbedvoter]

11. we're not at the voting stage. We're deliberating our picks and this is a thoughtful post

The fact that his campaign people asked him to use less inflammatory examples and he refused, reminds me how nobody could explain to 🍊 the reality about tariffs or NATO funding. Old men set in their ways who think they know best are not good on either side of the aisle. Not good leaders either.

[BannonsLiver]

13. Meh not really

It’s just more mewling about someone a poster can’t stand. But hey I guess that passes for insightful with some folks.

[qazplm135]

51. I can stand Biden

seems like a decent guy, was a GREAT VP.

He's definitely a flawed candidate though.

[Skya Rhen]

83. So is Bernie, Warren, Harris, Buttigieg, O'Rourke, Booker, Hickenlopper - need I go on?

Y

[qazplm135]

94. Ok then

More flawed than average.

[Moostache]

3. Name the last "surefire candidate" to win on the Democratic side...

'76/'80? Carter or Kennedy
'92 Clinton was not the "comeback kid" for no reason...
'08 Obama? At this point in the race he was given up for dead to Hillary.
'16 Hillary even though she secured the nomination went through a bruising primary with Bernie...

Joe Biden is already finding out that being an early front-runner is not a prefered position.

While I still want to see Mayor Pete become President Pete, I think our top tier beneath Biden is more likely to produce the nominee from Buttigieg, Warren, Harris and maybe a late rising dark horse than either Sanders or Biden.

[Voltaire2]

17. Nobody is sure fire.

My opinion is Biden is already misfiring.

[LuvNewcastle]

67. I agree.

I think Biden is peaking too early. People seem to become disenchanted with a candidate after he's been the front-runner for a while. I don't know why that is, but you can't deny that it happens. That's the main reason I think he won't win the nomination.

[irisblue]

4. This is the time for vetting candidates.

He has 'issues' that make me cringe. I really like that ApricotHellbeast is going on about him.

[redstatebluegirl]

5. In looking at all of your posts it sure appears that you are on a mission

to destroy Mr. Biden, also makes me wonder what your real mission might be. Find the positives about our candidates, you have the right in the primary to vote for anyone else so do it. If Mr. Biden becomes the candidate of the party, and you care about our country, you vote for our candidate no matter what.

[marylandblue]

12. How he can he destroy anyone on a site with maybe 2,000 partcipants?

[Voltaire2]

16. Apparently I have super powers.

[redstatebluegirl]

24. Nope you don't, but you are bashing a democrat.

[brooklynite]

34. What issues about Biden (or any other candidate) do you feel are acceptable to bring up?

[Lordquinton]

103. No he isn't

discussing a primary candidate is not bashing.

[BeyondGeography]

53. Teh destruction of Biden must stop!

Said Biden's campaign advisors to Biden.

[Kurt V.]

106. truth.

[R B Garr]

21. Yes, and definitely not Undecided. Pro Sanders per previous posts. nt

[secondwind]

7. You are entitled to your own opinions, but you need to NOT bash Democrats on this page.

[Voltaire2]

10. The primary forum is expressly for

posting opinions both for and against candidates.

[LanternWaste]

23. And when the opinion is 2+25, expect both your agenda and bias to be noticed.

No one ever really provides supporting evidence that 2+2=5, but as it fits on a t-shirt and takes less than 30-seconds to allege, I get it...

[George II]

39. Now that you've posted opinions against a candidate, when will you get around to posting FOR one?

[LibFarmer]

118. Whatever the Vermont propaganda algorithm says

Biden's gaffes, his hugging and his other aberrant statements are "baked in."

People like him because he is the most qualified and the most likely to withstand a brutal Trump attack in the GE.

People want to win and Biden is the ticket.

[UniteFightBack]

135. And this no apology thing...could be part of a strategy.

Now normally I like a good apology ...even a pro forma one and move on. But we can't have people apologizing right and left for every friggin thing...not when we have a general election coming up with that cretin.

Now I'm not saying we go low like him. But too many apologies all the damn time for every damn thing makes us look weak..and you're right it is going to be a brutal attack....rump has everything on the line...possibly his very life.

[Lordquinton]

104. Dunno why you're saying this, no bashing goin on

just deep concerns about a candidate.

[SouthernProgressive]

9. When did he joke about sexual abuse?

I see numerous items in your op that appear to be flat out dishonest. Then there are the numerous questionable assumptions.

[Voltaire2]

14. Ok. Numerous times.

For example:

After meeting an Iowa voter’s 13-year-old granddaughter in Eldridge on Wednesday, Biden addressed the girl’s brothers, telling them, “You’ve got one job here, keep the guys away from your sister.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/06/joe-biden-iowa-2020-campaign-teenage-girl-fence-warning.amp

[BannonsLiver]

25. Where is the "joking about sexual abuse" part?

I did not see that referenced. Direct quotes, please.

[Voltaire2]

30. He's joking about people having to lock up

their under aged daughters or they will get sexually assaulted.

It is part of his repertoire of public event small talk. It is tone deaf.

[BannonsLiver]

37. Ah

So you inferred that. Thanks for clearing that up.

[mac56]

56. That's how you interpreted "keep the guys away from your sister"?!

Dude.

[Voltaire2]

58. His other phrase in the same repertoire

is “and no dating before you’re 30”, directed generally at young women.

And it is all in jest.

Not only is underage sex, also known as “statutory rape” a hoot, but women have no agency and cannot decide for themselves how to conduct their social interactions until they are 30. But just for yucks.

This stuff was all acceptable 30 years ago.

Now it is just tone deaf.

[UniteFightBack]

137. So "no dating before you're 30" you equate with statutory rape. Or that he wants women controlled.

[UniteFightBack]

138. This post is so embarrassing you should delete it. Yes it's that bad. nt

[LanternWaste]

26. Thankfully, the little girl wasn't low-income and hanging out on street corners

[George II]

41. That's the way some people LIKE to interpret that. My youngest sister grew up with four....

....older brothers. The four of us felt that way and so did she. Now decades later she still appreciates that.

NONE of us thought we were "protecting her from sexual abuse".

[BannonsLiver]

45. Have heard a variation of it many times before

Only when Biden is involved does it become offensive. Frankly when I see people inferring that he said it in a sexual way it makes me question where their mind is.

[UniteFightBack]

140. I have never heard that used in a protective way and I find it bizarre that one would

even make that connection....OH it's because Biden said it so let's twist it.

It's usually said in a joking manner for cripes sake.

[UniteFightBack]

139. It's so absurd I had to read that twice to make sure I was comprehending. nt

[OhZone]

68. My uncle used to say that about me and his daughter all the time.

He said it to my brother.

It's a typical male parental thing to say. I don't get that it's something that bad for an old dude to say.

Of course, me and his daughter fell in love, ironically. BTW- we're both lesbians. Yeah, kissing cousins.

He was surprisingly OK with that, when he realized it. Unlike my parents.

We eventually broke up years later for a number of reasons.

Long story.

Oh well.

[Voltaire2]

47. And another:

“I want the press to know, she pulled me close,” the 2020 presidential candidate said Tuesday at a town hall event in Berlin, New Hampshire, referring to a woman at the event who whispered something in his ear after he handed her a chair.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5cf6a21fe4b0e8085e41aa72/amp

[mac56]

57. Obviously if she whispered something in his ear

SHE DID EXACTLY THAT.

Keep up the good work, Stretch Armstrong.

[Voltaire2]

60. He's joking about the repeated allegations

Of inappropriate touching.

[mac56]

62. You must be a blast at a party.

[Voltaire2]

99. This was a political event not a party.

[highplainsdem]

18. You're entitled to your incorrect opinions. The polls show that he's the current favorite

candidate among Democratic voters who've been surveyed.

But I guess you'll tell us that those Democratic voters are seriously flawed, too.

[George II]

43. "The polls show that he's the current favorite" - and THAT is the reason for a lot of this.

[LanternWaste]

19. You'll of course, ignore with righteousness Sanders' many, many gaffes.

[Voltaire2]

22. Sanders is also gaffe prone.

Generally he doesn’t commit the sort of campaign disasters Biden is famous for.

[LanternWaste]

28. Another unsupported allegation.

Provide objective numbers supporting your premise, or simply realize you're merely parroting a bumper-stickers, and with righteousness in your heart, continue to ignore in a sacred cow what you indict others for... in essence holding your own to lower standard than you hold others.

[Voltaire2]

32. Oh so Sanders is not gaffe prone?

[Doodley]

20. The opening post would be music to the ears of Republicans.

[JI7]

27. he isn't my first choice but i would vote for him over

Sanders gabbard yang williamson and maybe some others. he isn't nearly as bad as they are.

[LibFarmer]

29. As Daniel Patrick Moynihan said....

You have a right to your own opinion, but you have no right to your own facts.

[NYMinute]

31. Today's smear "flawed"

A communiqué must have come from David Sirota to all the faithful to sing the hymn of the flawed in every medium.

[WA-03 Democrat]

33. I think he's a great candidate

- experience
- honest
- can win MI, PEN, WI, FL and maybe others against the orange baby
- cares about the common person
- rational

I am very excited about our party and our future once we get control of the executive and congress. We can do this!

GOTV

Go Joe Go!

[OhZone]

69. This this and so much this! ha

[UniteFightBack]

141. +1000

[hlthe2b]

35. Why is it that I suspect you never would have supported Biden, regardless. Your bias seems to be

screaming through...

[Voltaire2]

49. I disagree with Biden on many issues.

Although as he is at this point avoiding actually talking about policy, I don’t know how he stands currently on the issues I care about.

I have stated here numerous times my other major objection to Biden: he is an undisciplined candidate who will talk himself into trouble repeatedly during the campaign.

[sop]

127. Funny how such a "disastrous" candidate was elected to the Senate at 29,

was re-elected five times, spent 36 years in the Senate, many of those years in leadership positions, served 8 years as Vice President, and is now leading by double-digits in the early polls. Gee, I wish I could be so "undisciplined."

[Voltaire2]

129. Not really.

He has a very safe seat.

[sop]

130. You're really invested in this, aren't you?

[FBaggins]

36. To borrow a line from Trump's playbook...

... what does that say about all of the other candidates that he's crushing?

[Lordquinton]

96. Not a favorable comparison

Fortunately he is steadily losing ground to them.

[FBaggins]

116. Hardly

I’ve been on the other side of this argument for weeks... but he hasn’t been “losing ground”... he’s just lost the announcement bump and is right back to where he started (with no sign of drifting lower). The real movement has been shifting within the pack (Warren taking from Sanders and between Beto and Buttigieg).

All of which will look irrelevant in the rear view mirror as the field is winnowed and the primaries approach.

[emmaverybo]

38. He did not joke about sexual abuse. You are simply repeating a highly suspect response Linda

Flores had to a rather self-effacing and good humored remark Biden made before he hugged a little boy, after he had acknowledged that he needed to listen to women’s complaints about him.
He said “I better ask for permission” with an expression completely devoid of mockery, malice, or sarcasm, and then hugged the boy.
Linda Flores, appropriating language from sex abuse and rape cases, legal language used to determine if a crime has been committed, said he mocked women, mocked consent. She knew what she was saying, using loaded language to imply that Biden, who has spoken out about consent to men on many campuses, and who has supported women against violence through his legislation, was joking about the issue of consent in rape cases.

Here is what he has said about consent:

Nothing justifies a man laying a hand on a woman without her consent. Look, you need consent. If the woman is totally drunk and inebriated, she can’t give consent. It’s rape. It’s rape if you cannot give consent. It is assault.

He also wrote beautifully to a young woman sexually assaulted on campus by a star swimmer who got a slap on the wrist. She had written an open letter, an account of the assault and how the judge favored the young man because he had an athletic career ahead of him, while utterly discounting her.

The situation with the little boy, which was what Flores referenced, was non-sexual and bore no relation to the context Linda Flores evoked in her response when she attempted to conflate consent to have sex between men and women with women wanting Joe to ask permission if he could hold their hand, guide them by the shoulder, hug...

It is terrible that you use smears and myths to criticize Joe Biden’, rather than facts.

[Voltaire2]

42. Your explanation makes it even worse.

[emmaverybo]

63. Done with you. NT

[customerserviceguy]

40. While I disagree with that

he's been undermining himself somewhat as of late.

The flip-flops on the Hyde Amendment and the death penalty are going to call into question the moderateness that so many think makes him electable in places where Hillary Clinton wasn't. Never mind that Trump thought that abortion was OK a couple of decades ago, he'll surely charge Joe Biden with having no core beliefs in a debate. He manages to play hypocrisy well with his base.

If Joe has to morph into an older white male version of AOC to secure the nomination, he's going to look a bit ridiculous.

[Gothmog]

44. Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available

[AtheistCrusader]

46. at the moment, according to the polls.

Finished that sentence for you.

[gldstwmn]

84. Ugh. That is what is holding up our party.

Was Trump the most electable in his party? It's time to get out of the box.

[AtheistCrusader]

89. I think the media bears a large part of the responsibility for that.

He worked the media, and despite the RNC trying to get rid of him, he became the frontrunner.

I'm not sure either party's primary system works well. (Not that we can fix it at the moment.

[marylandblue]

100. We need a candidate who can work the media. Obama did it. Clinton did it.

Media savvy accounted for their success more than any other factor. Also was Reagan's strength.

[AtheistCrusader]

113. So I guess the question is, which candidate can do it best for the long haul.

[marylandblue]

114. Buttigieg seems best to me. But we'll have to see how it plays out.

Some of the others have disciplined media strategies that may work.

[WoonTars]

75. 'Electable'. By what metric?

All of the candidates running have been elected, therefore they're all 'electable'. Several of them are polling nationally higher than Trump, so he's not the ONLY one.

Let's see how they handle themselves in the debate before anointing anyone, yes?

[Demit]

48. He has said he's not sorry about anything he's ever done.

I think he will double down on the things he's being criticized for. He feels his intentions are the important thing, that they override whatever effect his words or actions have on others.

[BannonsLiver]

50. Do you have a link for that?

I’m specifically looking for a direct quote in the context you’re implying. Thanks.

[Demit]

52. Video at the link--

https://www.salon.com/2019/04/05/former-vice-president-joe-biden-refuses-to-apologize-for-alleged-unwanted-touching-im-not-sorry/

[BannonsLiver]

59. Ah

So it’s not what you implied, which was that he said that he’s never been sorry for anything he’s ever done. I appreciate you clearing that up.

[Demit]

74. What? He says it right there in the video! You can watch him say it!

"I'm sorry I didn't understand more," Biden said. "I'm not sorry for any of my intentions. I'm not sorry for anything that I have ever done. I have never been disrespectful intentionally to a man or a woman. That's not the reputation I've had since I was in high school for God's sakes."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=40&v=Y1m8K5bpE_g


When I make a claim, I back it up. The video is proof.

[Progressive dog]

54. Tone deaf Joe has been in public life

for a very long time and he has never lost in a general election. He is a decent man who does have flaws, most of which he has corrected.
I have never seen a candidate who is perfect or who spends a sufficient amount of time apologizing for mistakes. In fact, I would love for the Democratic candidate to be perfect but the only ones who come close probably haven't been vetted yet.

[Voltaire2]

55. Biden blew up two presidential campaigns.

He never made it to the ge.

[Progressive dog]

61. Biden has lost in primaries

with multiple candidates. Primaries have electorates very different from a general election. Who in this primary field has made it to a ge? Joe actually did because he was selected by Obama to run with him.

[Progressive dog]

123. Joe never lost in a general election

so he is nor a loser. Dukakis and Mondale beat Biden and did lose in the general election. President Obama picked Biden as his running mate.

[jberryhill]

82. Joe was elected to the Senate in a post-Watergate election against a doddering incumbent

Caleb Boggs was well past his sell-by date, and Joe is one of those rare "sacrificial lamb" candidates who actually won.

After that, he had a progression of miserable R opponents in Delaware, which has been blue and through for decades now.

Seriously, the Republicans in Delaware run candidates like Christine "The Anti-Masturbation Witch" O'Donnell:



To be Vice President, you only need to receive one person's vote. However, in the VP matchups, he was pitted against this creature:



And... holy... whoever the fuck it was that ran with the Romneybot Mark VI humanoid. Oh yeah...

[Progressive dog]

124. Biden has never lost in a general election

and Obama picked him as his running mate. The other two who beat Joe in the primaries both lost in the general.

[jberryhill]

125. Yes, I'm familiar with the statistics

I'm a native of Delaware and also had him as a professor in a small seminar he used to teach at the law school here.

[stonecutter357]

64. lol fail !

[OhZone]

66. Yup!

[treestar]

65. Which candidate is best

And why? What is the point of arguing who not to vote for? We don’t want to vote for a candidate just because another one is bad. I am not convinced to vote for anyone else solely on the ground that Biden is bad.

[emulatorloo]

134. +1. Tired of negative campaigning against our candidates. They are all good people

[in2herbs]

70. Without commenting on any perceived flaw about Biden, my concern is this: Say Biden becomes

the nominee, what position does that put Obama in on the campaign trail? Once the nominee is chosen it is expected that Obama will help campaign. Will Obama's campaigning help or hurt Biden among those independent and R voters we are trying to attract so that we can take the WH back?

[WoonTars]

73. That's an interesting question...

...

[Demit]

76. Maybe Biden will say he asked Obama not to campaign for him.

The way he said back in April that he asked Obama not to endorse him.

[yaesu]

71. I'm thinking MSM is going to do to Joe what they did to Howard Dean, they will pick out a Dean

moment, blow it way out of proportion & harp on it 24/7, but, they will wait until he wins the primary. They want tRump another 4 or more years, he's good for biz.

[The Wielding Truth]

77. those are not serious flaws in the big scheme of things.

[gldstwmn]

78. Agreed. I groaned when he entered the race.

It's time for someone new to lead the party. From all outside appearances his campaign is an unorganized mess. Obviously I'll vote for him if he is the candidate but he has been saying one thing after another.

[zentrum]

88. Not to mention..

...the rest of the speech.

From Newsweek:

Unlike many of his 2020 Democratic opponents, Biden has not sworn off campaign money from wealthy donors......

During the fundraiser, Biden also reassured the pack of elite donors that his tax plans would not be too much of a burden on them. He stated that "nobody has to be punished" by his economic proposals and that "no one's standard of living would change."

According to a report by CNBC, Biden even asked a billionaire Republican donor who supports President Donald Trump, John Catsimatidis, for fundraising help. Catsimatidis said he "just smiled" when Biden made his campaign pitch.

His comments came just hours after he attended the Poor People's Campaign, an organization that works to challenge racism and economic injustice. During the event, Biden said that poverty was the "one thing" that can bring the U.S. down.

Biden added that if elected he would eliminate a large portion of Republican tax cuts and reduce the military's budget in order to fund programs for poorer Americans. "We have all the money we need to do it," he said.

Which is the Real Joe? Does being Third Way mean you say whatever you have to say to whatever crowd you're in front of?

Really want to re-set the Democratic Party.

[BigOleDummy]

90. Agreed

Mr. Biden is his own worst enemy. His campaign is ……. atrocious to be kind. I too groaned when he entered and agree about new faces/blood in this race.

[gldstwmn]

93. We are saying ourselves way short

By gravitating to the cadidate named as most electable. Our entire field has the potential to beat Trump. We have such an abundance of good, progressive candidates. Whoever takes over post Trump has their work cut out for them. They are going to have to hit the ground running every day for a while.

[ECL213]

79. I will decide on the best candidate in my own good time.

And when everything is said and done, if my favored candidate does not win the nomination, I will vote for whomever is nominated in order to get the Anti-Christ out of the Oval Office.

[zentrum]

80. Agreed.

And his working with Arch-segregationist Strom Thurmond is lurking out there too.

Out of step. 3rd Wayer from the '80's.

[harumph]

81. I agree with your assessment (BUT)

He can win against Trump. Yes - I would prefer somebody else like Harris or Warren -
but I'm not the typical middle of the road democrat. I will vote for the person that wins the
nomination. That said, he will not have my primary vote. I respect those fellow democrats who
think differently about this.

[honest.abe]

85. I suggest you stop bashing our likely nominee.

Joe is not my number one choice but if he is our nominee, which it appears very likely, then I am totally behind him and will support him 100%.

[Voltaire2]

87. My opinion is that selecting Biden will be

a disaster.

[honest.abe]

121. My opinion is that the biggest risk of a disaster will come from..

-- RW media
-- GOP/Russia cheating
-- Discouraged Democratic voters not showing up due to bashing of our nominee from other Democrats.

Not necessarily in that order.

[phandancer917]

86. Agree somewhat...

....but not sure if would go so far as too flawed.

I am opposed to Joe Biden for the same reason I am opposed to ANYONE over 70 being President. I want young blood in the office - people that are not beholden to antiquated ideals.

That said --- I will HAPPILY vote for Mr. Biden if he becomes the Candidate and feel confident he will do a fine job.

However, they are going to DESTROY his son, Hunter for his recent relationship entanglements.

I know Joe is leading polls....but that is because most of America knows his name/face etc. I live in Kentucky (yeah..yeah....) and doubt many Democrats here would be able to name more than one or two other candidates.

[DallasNE]

91. Unfortunately

This can't be overlooked. He has a long history of being a gaffe making machine. When your compass is not calibrated correctly you stray off-course and into enemy territory. We don't want that in a leader - indeed we already have that in Trump. (Trump has a whole lot more wrong with him than that). I'm still sorting things out but Biden has dropped off of my radar - though if he is the nominee I will vote for him and encourage others to also vote for him as well.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

92. PLEASE name the candidate with NO flaws........

NO skeletons in the closet...

NO gaffes....

Who has NOTHING to hide.....

Has NOT made mistakes.....

Who HAS progressed on an issue...….

Every candidate running is flawed to some degree. There is no such thing as a PERFECT or PURE as the driven snow candidate.

[Voltaire2]

98. I have never suggested that other candidates

have no flaws. My opinion is that Biden has too many.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

101. Donald Trump even more so and look where he is right now.

True, he was once a Democrat. He sure is no Republican either.

[Voltaire2]

102. He is lockstep with the GOP.

And his flaws, from the illiberal authoritarian Republican Party perspective are all assets. They only look like flaws to us.

About the only Trump policy the GOP is uncomfortable with are tariffs, but they appear to have shrugged off that discomfort.

[mopinko]

95. this thread is the proof.

many here on du, who are well informed, are specifically rejecting him as their guy.
he has negatives that are obvious and well known.
this is not a time to put forth such a candidate. we cannot give people a reason not to vote.
not this time.

[TwilightZone]

119. DU is not representative of the real world.

It's also not representative of the average voter, the average Democrat, or the average liberal. Results or discussions here cannot be extrapolated to the general voting public.

It's a niche website that represents nothing other than that particular niche. Alone, it is "proof" of nothing regarding the viability of any of our candidates.

[mopinko]

120. yeah, no. you missed my point.

we arent indicative of general voting populations, because we are better educated than most.

which is to say that the debate here is among people who know what they are talking about, for the most part, and many real concerns have been expressed.
the info is out there if you want to look. i put a higher value on educated critics than generic voters who may or may not be paying any attention.
it's early. this stuff will become more widely known, more incidents will almost certainly follow.

i'm not talking about people who are predicting the future, guessing who will beat trump. i am talking about people who are recounting the past, and looking at the present, and have real issues.

too many other good choices this time.
this is no time to be toting biden's baggage around.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

97. He's a decent man who has done some good work. He should not be president.

[sarabelle]

107. So was Trump.

[Voltaire2]

111. Sure.

So if your theory is we should run a candidate as flawed as Trump, we will have to find somebody other than Biden as he isn’t nearly that flawed .

[ecstatic]

108. No worries. If other voters

agree with your characterization, then he won't win the primaries.

[onetexan]

109. Says you

[Voltaire2]

110. Yes. I did not cut and paste somebody else's opinion.

[Nuggets]

112. Interesting how these Biden bashing posts stay

Every time I see an article bashing Biden it strengthens my resolve to vote for him and talk to others about doing the same.

He obviously scares the crap out of the GOP thus they believe he will be effective.
The fact that he scares the trolls on every site I comment on shows us he scares the crap out of Putin too.

[NYMinute]

115. We have heard the same stuff about Hillary

This is an obvious attempt at hillaryfying Biden.

[Gothmog]

117. According to Symone Sanders, Biden did not praise a segregationist

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[BlueStater]

122. Yes he is and he shouldn't be running.

I wish he could have realized that his time has passed and he needed to take on the role of a mentor for the up-and-coming generations, but he let his ego get the better of him unfortunately.

[UniteFightBack]

142. You have to admit he had a lot of encouragement. nt

[gtar100]

128. Yep.

I hate the effect polls have on people. Biden is being sold to us as the front runner but why do we even fucking care at this point. Let's give all the candidates a chance to make their case before we all circle our wagons around our favorite.

But now picking our leaders in government has become no better than a sport and if you're candidate wins, you get to cheer with glee and feel like a winner too. But if he or she doesn't, then you lost, too bad, sucks to be you.

Except this is about democracy and representative government, not a winner-takes-all game of ring toss. We cripple ourselves with these stupid showmanship games. It does not serve our interests to get fanatic about politicians.

[ValidateThis]

131. And all the others are just so perfect

Why don’t you make the case for the candidate you do support?

[maxrandb]

132. Is that you Vlad?

Starting early this election, aren't you?

[GulfCoast66]

133. Keep telling yourself that. NT.

[Midwestocrat]

136. I'd post something derogatory about your candidate...

But...
1.) You haven't chosen anybody, though there's like 25 people, many that have been running for half a year now.
2.) It's against the rules of this website!