Why the continual referral of Senator Sanders as BS?

[ALBliberal]

Seems a holdover from the last Democratic primary and hard feelings from that. If posters want to engage in constructive debate with Mr. Sanders' supporters maybe a simple "Bernie" or "Sanders" might work.

[EricMaundry]

1. Because those are his initials?

[David__77]

92. Just like Obama's name is "Barack Hussein Obama," right?

....

[themaguffin]

95. No, it's BHO

[David__77]

96. His name is "Barack Hussein Obama," and his initials or BHO or BO - that's right.

...

[themaguffin]

98. Yes either of those

[comradebillyboy]

2. BS seems appropriate to me. His initials after all.

[David__77]

93. Is "Barack Hussein Obama" appropriate for Obama?

Is their sometimes ill intent?

More generally, can someone have ill intent in using a nickname/initials, or even someone's full name?

[themaguffin]

100. Once again, those are not initials

[sheshe2]

3. BS.

PBO. BO. HC. HILL.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

6. Kinda like JFK, HHH, LBJ, HRC, DJT, SHS, GHWB, W, RR,

[Trumpocalypse]

65. Don't forget AOC! ;-) nt

[George II]

149. Don't you mean AO-C?

[ALBliberal]

5. Hmmmm...maybe it's just coincidental that those referring to Senator Sanders

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to Senator Sanders as BS by and large have negative comments about him. Yes definitely a coincidence.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

13. My favorite though is "sanders," with a small "s"... just a sign that Bernie is gaining traction

and poses a real threat to the established way of doing things. Bernie has shown us a new way forward, by shining the light of truth and exposing injustice on progressive issues that, until recently, most candidates feared to raise. That's the mark of a true Leader... with a capital "L"!!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Gothmog]

58. How is sanders gaining traction in the real world?

Has sanders apologized to Congressman John Lewis for his delegates booing Congressman John Lewis at the National Convention?

BTW, where are sanders tax returns?

[NurseJackie]

66. That's hysterical!

just a sign that Bernie is gaining traction

[dubyadiprecession]

113. Are you an RN?

Richard Nixon was.

[NurseJackie]

116. I'm NJ ... Just like New Jersey. 😜

[OregonBlue]

42. Can you provide examples or are you just guessing? Why do Bernie people keep trying to stir it up

here? I love Bernie but I'm starting to get very put off by his supporters. Or maybe that's the point? I don't think Bernie would approve of the constant complaining and bickering. He's bigger than that.

[comradebillyboy]

45. No he isn't.

[tonedevil]

185. I'm not quite ready to...

search all the posts where Senator Sanders is referred to as BS, check each one for content, and tally how many are disparaging how many seem to be positive. That said, it is hard to think referring to Senator Sanders as BS is meant as a compliment.

[dawg day]

168. What's the alternative?

SBS-- Senator Bernie Sanders?

I never got used to BO for Obama... I'd use PBO for President Barack Obama.

[radical noodle]

7. Oh, I can't imagine

why we'd call him BS since his name is Bernie Sanders.

[Ron Fleishman]

8. Bernie is the Best

Most people just refer to him as "Bernie" Don't want in any way of course to confuse him with others with his last name to say the least. I think Bernie is the Best because IMHO he's the only one with balls enough to take on Wall Street, FED and the Billionaire Class. Bernie is the one who will help us take Corporate Lobbyists out of Politics. Haven't they done enough?
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/04/how-corporate-lobbyists-conquered-american-democracy/390822/

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

12. Couldn't agree more, for all the reasons you stated... why Bernie deserves our utmost respect...

even more so when he wins the Democratic Party's nomination for President.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[forklift]

15. BS has my utmost respect

but not my vote

[George II]

72. Then how about BitB?

[louis c]

205. Does BS have enough "balls" to release at least 7 years of his tax returns?

It will be tough in the GE to bash Trump on his refusing to release his tax returns when the temporary Democrat is also doing the same thing.

Don't give me he released the one year BS. Release the 10 years, like Hillary did. And please, no crap about how "poor he is, what do you think he's hiding?"

I won't know the answer to that until he shows us the taxes.

[melman]

9. Juvenile name-calling

[betsuni]

18. Oh, melman. Initials aren't name-calling.

[melman]

118. Oh betsuni

You are so very clever.

[NurseJackie]

69. BS

[melman]

119. aw

[NurseJackie]

126. Aw.

[melman]

127. Wonderful

[TexasTowelie]

79. I have two gifs that offer the perfect response,

but they would get alerted upon. Have a nice day.

[melman]

123. Why would you want to post alertable gifs?

Seems strange.

[TexasTowelie]

124. Why not?

I'll let you wonder.

[melman]

125. I'm not wondering

And the reason I'm not wondering is because I don't care.


Still seems strange though.

[TexasTowelie]

129. You asked a question so it sure seemed like you were wondering and did care.

I responded. If you want to change your story, then that seems strange.

[melman]

130. Here's a helpful link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question

[CrossingTheRubicon]

10. It's our fault his parents didn't give BS a middle name?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

11. Just another way of showing disrespect to one of our leading Democratic candidates...

I look at it as an endorsement of sorts... that Bernie is a threat to the established way of politically doing things and a threat to winning the Democratic Party's nomination. Soon, though, it will be PS... President Sanders, and maybe then(?) they'll start showing him proper respect.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[betsuni]

14. "they'll start showing him proper respect"

[forklift]

16. I can already hear "Hail to the Chief"

with men bowing and women curtsying and stuff

and the 21 gun salute from the NRA

[Tipperary]

17. Will that be before or after he releases his tax returns?

I think he said he would do that a few years ago?

[NurseJackie]

63. BS has absolutely NO intention of releasing his full tax returns.

If he (they) were going to release them, they would have done so by now.

[Gothmog]

67. Releasing sanders tax returns would hurt book sales

[Tipperary]

83. Yep.

It will never happen. Confused how many are not troubled by the dishonesty, which is blatant.

[George II]

26. BS isn't a threat to the "established way of politically doing things" whatsoever.

[Renew Deal]

31. He's not a Democrat

And he’ll never be president

[NurseJackie]

36. Aw.

... and ...

[louis c]

145. When did BS proclaim he's a Democcrat...

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...and please don't give me that "he caucuses with the Dems". Either you're a Democrat or you're not. As a matter of fact, last year, BS won the Democratic Party nomination for the US Senate in Vermont, and turned down the nomination, in order to run just as an Independent.

Now, he wants the Democratic nomination for President one year later.

Go figure.

[Perrenial Voter]

201. Maybe some people are non-binary in their politics n/t

[louis c]

203. Ya, I know that. Many Sanders' supporters proved that in the 2016 GE (NT)

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[MrsCoffee]

19. Well this is a constructive post.

This victim mentality is clearly a winning strategy. Because it’s ALL about Bernie and his supporters.

Again.

[jcgoldie]

33. Its a fishing trip

[Tom Rinaldo]

52. No, there is also a great deal about KH n/t

[Voltaire2]

20. The intention is obvious.

[George II]

27. Care to share with us what that "intention" might be?

[Voltaire2]

132. Lulzd.

[David__77]

59. Yes, the denials are silly.

Anti-Sanders militants use the name “BS,” in particular.

[Cha]

142. As you insult members as "militants".. look

in the mirror before you call "silly".

[CrossingTheRubicon]

179. I'm just happy not to be called a "centrist."

"Militant" seems like a step up from some of the insults one gets for being a Democratic loyalist on a forum designed to support Democrats.

[Cha]

180. lol.. Fighters for Democracy!

Damn Straight!

[Igel]

143. Because the best admission is by way of denial.

I can't speak to others.

But last election I referred to HRC as HRC and BS as BS. Tertius non datur, so there wasn't much choice.

Trump was Trump, Paul was Paul, but using bare surnames is not the same as what I still think is the overfamiliar "Hillary" (hardly know the woman) or "Bernie" (again, just a tad too faux intimate, sort of like calling Obama "Barry" or OAC "Sandy" or even KH "Kammy", if anybody even calls her that).

I get that familiarity is the frame, but I don't usually like that kind of linguistic manipulation and react badly to it. Since I couldn't refer to HRC as "Clinton" (referent's taken by a prior CiC/POTUS in the WH), that left HRC. "Sanders" still reeks of chicken in my set of connotations, so BS it was.

It made for a nice kind of (a)symmetry. (D) were initials, (R) were surnames.

[TexasTowelie]

153. To top things off

HRC also stands for the Human Rights Campaign. There were a few posts on DU where the reference was ambiguous.

[mcar]

166. Militants?

Please, tell us who these "militants" are and what they do to make them so.

[dawg day]

169. Give an alternative then.

Seriously-- JFK. LBJ.
Heck, the second Bush only got ONE initial-- W.

If you wanted to shorthand Bernie Sanders name like we do with so many other prominent politicians' names, what would you use?

Reminds me of US Grant, whose original first name was Hiram, so his initials were HUG. Not manly enough. He dropped the first name and added S (just the letter) to be US Grant.

Maybe Bernie should add a U, and be BUS?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

158. Yup!! Not working though... say hello to PS, as in President Sanders!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Tipperary]

21. Lol.

Are those not his initials?

[betsuni]

22. Everything is a RIGGED CONSPIRACY!11!!!

[Tipperary]

23. Lol!

I know, right? Truly one of the funniest ops I have seen on du.

[KayF]

24. same reason Trump calls people names

because it's so clever!

[George II]

25. Why not? Ever see the references to "PBO", or "HRC", or any number of others? When he changes...

...his first or last name I suspect people won't refer to him as BS anymore.

[David__77]

90. Just like Obama's name is "Barack Hussein Obama," right?

I'm thinking someone, somewhere, said that when Obama changes his middle name, then they would stop referring to him as that.

No one's going to be arrested for using someone's middle name or someone's initials, of course.

[bigtree]

28. kick and rec for title

...

[George II]

30. Well played!!

[forklift]

29. I have a suggestion

Harry Truman didn't have a middle name either but he just chose S as his middle initial for gravitas.

Bernie can choose an O and he will be the BOS or a U and he will be a BUS.

Then BS and his supporters won't have to feel victimized by some grand conspiracy and OPs like this won't be necessary.

[CrossingTheRubicon]

43. Considering the new "re-framing" effort, perhaps he could be Bernard X Sanders?

[comradebillyboy]

47. My morning coffee just shot out of my nose...lol.

[George II]

74. Or.....

[ehrnst]

141. ....

[SFnomad]

171. You've won the thread with that post n/t

[yardwork]

195. I'm dying!

[treestar]

61. How about SS for Senator Sanders?

[George II]

71. That's why Leslie Lynch King Jr. chose Gerald Rudolph Ford Jr.

[David__77]

110. Is this like the people who didn't like people calling Obama "Barack Hussein Obama?"

...

[mcar]

167. No

[quickesst]

32. let's be completely honest here

If one is opposed to Bernie Sanders winning the Democratic nomination, who in their right mind would not take advantage of this coincidence? I certainly would, and that's no BS.

[Gothmog]

68. LOL

Thank you for making me smile

[quickesst]

162. Welcome

Always makes me smile when I can make someone else smile.

[LongtimeAZDem]

75. Yep; I do it, I admit that freely. If you can't handle your candidate getting called names,

then American politics is probably not your cup of tea.

I dealt with "Hitlary", "Shrillary", "Killary", and a bunch of other stuff last time, so I'm gonna go with "suck it up".

[quickesst]

164. You are right about Hillary

It was meant to be nasty and brutal, whereas in this case, it's just harmless fun. Thin Skins won't get that.

[SidDithers]

34. I think he should be referred to as Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT)....nt

Sid

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

35. Soon to be Mr. President!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[George II]

38. There's a LOT of vetting and voting to be done between now and July 2020

[SidDithers]

39. BS...nt

Sid

[jcgoldie]

53. +1

[David__77]

57. That would be wonderful!

...

[LongtimeAZDem]

144. I see what you did there

[TCJ70]

37. For some, it's his initials...

...for others they may see another meaning in it. It's pretty easy to tell who's who.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

159. It sure is... same for those who refer to Bernie as "sanders"...

Coulda sworn his parents capitalized their son's last name... it's "Sanders" last time I checked. And Bernie goes by "Bernie"... not his initials. The disrespect some show this fine Democratic candidate is amazing, but, hardly surprising.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[SFnomad]

172. Maybe for some it's to differentiate between bernie sanders and Sarah Huckabee Sanders n/t

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

176. Riiiiiiiight... I'm sure that's it!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[LongtimeAZDem]

40. BVS

[samnsara]

41. i refer to Hillary as HRC and Obama as PBO...

[Tom Rinaldo]

46. Name ONE political figure identified by only TWO initials

Sure there is FDR and JFK and RFK and AOC and HRC. Three names every time.

Would you call Barack Obama BO? Would you consider it insulting to call Obama that given that BO often stands for Body Odor?

But lots of people on DU call Bernie Sanders BS. Now why would that be?

[comradebillyboy]

48. Ronald Regan RR, Donald Trump, DT for starters.

[Tom Rinaldo]

49. No, those are not common usages. ANYONE can be abrieviated by two initials

That doesn't mean that many do so.

[LongtimeAZDem]

78. What is his middle name?

[themaguffin]

111. DT is used a lot. People used W for well, W. Come on.

[Tom Rinaldo]

135. W has no negative association. What about JC, BC and BO?

None of us would think of calling Carter, Clinton or Obama by those initials. Partially because they are commonly associated with other phrases, like BC/ AD, like Jesus Christ, and like Body Odor. BS is commonly associated with Bull Shit. We have 15 or more current or potential candidates running for President, and only one gets called by two initials here, and those just so happen to be derogatory.

[themaguffin]

136. BO was used. I never gave a second thought, just like I never thought negatively of "BS" for Bernie

[LongtimeAZDem]

56. HRC was routinely called Hillary Rodham Clinton; Sanders' middle name is rarely used, if ever

[Tom Rinaldo]

60. Exactly. Franklin Delano Roosevelt became FDR for another example.

It happens when three names are commonly known. Who identifies Joe Biden with his middle name? And hence, none refer to him either with three initials or as JB.

[LongtimeAZDem]

62. I honestly can't believe people are so insecure about their candidate that this is an issue

[LongtimeAZDem]

77. I looked it up; it looks like he doesn't even HAVE a middle name, so this is all really silly

[SFnomad]

173. Never trust someone whose name is two first names ... or has no middle name at all n/t

[George II]

150. He doesn't have one:

http://liberaldarkness.com/2015/10/19/confirmed-bernie-sanders-does-not-have-a-middle-name/

Confirmed: Bernie Sanders Does Not Have a Middle Name

[themaguffin]

97. They had SPECIFIC reasons for 3 initials. Wow what the fuck people.

[MrsMatt]

194. TR

Theodore Roosevelt.

[Tom Rinaldo]

44. Just a way to diss without risking an alert. Nobody uses KH or EW or JB or JI for other candidates

Initials are rarely used for a politician, and even then only when their first middle and last names are being abbreviated.

Can anyone here name a single American politician EVER, other than Bernie Sanders, who has been identified by two initials by anyone?

[David__77]

55. What's ridiculous is the cynical denials.

I mean - I get it. Find a way to insult with plausible deniability. I’m sure others will play that game as well. I think 2016 will be nice and easy compared with what lies ahead.

[LongtimeAZDem]

64. No, what's ridiculous is people getting so upset over petty stuff like this

[David__77]

70. It's a matter of viewpoint, as with anything.

Personally, I think it would be nice if people refrained from name calling, either overt or covert in nature.

[TexasTowelie]

81. I've seen EW used on DU before.

I think that I also KH used in a few threads. I don't think that I've seen JB or JI (who is almost unknown outside of the Pacific Northwest states).

[David__77]

50. Obviously in many cases it's to say "bullshit."

It’s a sort of covert hostility in some cases, I think - real bad stuff.

[Adrahil]

51. I don't like Bernie....

... but I never thought it was anything other than his initials. I don't like referring to him as "Sanders" because of you-know-who. I usually call him "Bernie" but that always feels too familiar since I actually don;t know him personally, and don't like him.

[Tom Rinaldo]

54. B. Sanders is another option. But with no press briefings happening anymore

no one thinks of the other Sanders when only that name is used.

[TexasTowelie]

82. Barry Sanders is the greatest, most popular running back ever!

Okay, I'm kidding because I'm an Emmitt Smith fan and was at the game when he broke the NFL rushing record. It was the only time I bought season tickets for any athletic team.

Go Cowboys!

[Tom Rinaldo]

134. LOL You can make a case for that, but a stronger one for ES n/t

[comradebillyboy]

191. Emmitt Smith, the Greatest Of All Time!

[MineralMan]

73. What an odd question. JFK, BHO. I mean, shortcuts for

politicians names using their actual initials are pretty common, don't you think? Still, you made me think about referring to Senator Sanders as BS. If that was your intent, then you succeeded.

[Control-Z]

178. Same here.

I can't stand Sanders. And what I call him is just his name, Sanders. Now if I ever write anything about him again I just know I'm going to want to use his initials. Damn. I'm going to be torn about whether or not I should, at the risk of insulting one or two DUers.

Whatever will I do?

[shanny]

76. Some people being "clever"

[David__77]

115. Not too clever.

...

[shanny]

121. hence the quotation marks

[dgauss]

80. I'm guessing it's just part of the "vetting"process.

[NastyRiffraff]

84. What a thing to whine about

Using a man's initials is a no-no now? We had no problem with HRC. Maybe BS should change his name?

[David__77]

86. What about calling Obama "Barack Hussein Obama?"

Is that a no-no?

[NastyRiffraff]

89. Whatabout whatabout whatabout

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We were talking about BS, no?

[David__77]

91. Do you like calling Obama "Barack Hussein Obama?"

That's what I was talking about.

[NastyRiffraff]

94. Whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout

Whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout whatabout
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This is starting to sound like Fox News whataboutism. Anything to change the subject!

[themaguffin]

101. Once again, those are not initials

[David__77]

104. Right, it's a name.

...

[themaguffin]

106. Huh?

[BannonsLiver]

146. I never had a problem with it

I always thought it was bad ass that we had a president with his middle name. And that the republicans found it threatening or offensive was just an added bonus.

Kind of bizarre your attempts to insert Obama into this over and over in the thread. What exactly is the point you’re trying to make?

[sheshe2]

170. I know, really?

I have no problems using his in full, I like it, it is a strong name.

Fact is, when he took the oath of office he said:

I, Barrack Hussein Obama do solemnly swear..."

He is proud of his name and heritage. I am as well as he was the best President of my lifetime.

[George II]

148. Well, since the topic is initials, I've seen BHO used many times, as well as PBO.

[WeekiWater]

85. Lots of reasons.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/128716078

[David__77]

88. Some people may "respectfully" refer to Obama as "Barack Hussein Obama."

I think that the intent of some in doing so is clear.

I think that intent can be clear regardless of protests to the contrary.

[themaguffin]

99. You made that comment already, but those are not initials

[David__77]

102. Right, names/nicknames/initials can be used with ill intent.

Thanks for paying attention to my comments.

[themaguffin]

105. It's not a nickname. Jesus Christ (or should I say JC).

People use initials as short cuts all of the time. Come on.

I never read it as a slur or jab. Wow.

[David__77]

107. Names/nicknames/initials are all means of identifying people.

Yes, "BS" is initials and "Barack Hussein Obama" is a name. I'm sure that plenty of people don't see them as slurs.

[themaguffin]

112. You are equating and conflating different things. I never saw anything to "BS" because initials seem

to be commonly used for politicians.

This is silly.

[David__77]

114. BHO or BO may also be perceived as an insult.

https://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnists_ezorn/2012/02/is-bho-a-sly-slam-at-obama.html

[themaguffin]

117. I never took it as such. I never saw anything where it was taken that way. Seriously, in a decade

...nothing.

I realize with your repeated conflation of this, nothing will sway you and that every use of it is a slight, so ok...

Everyone is calling him Bullshit. Every person... all of the time who takes a short cut.

Ok.

[David__77]

120. Just sometimes.

See, for instance: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=16654

[themaguffin]

122. links to links to links. Ok "sometimes." Whatever.

[SFnomad]

174. Normally I'd say JHFC ... but that's just me n/t

[EveHammond13]

103. people often refer to Barack Obama as BO. I don't really like it.

[catbyte]

108. Nobody complained about insulting Obama when the initials "BO" was used,

insinuating "body odor." BS is also a college degree. I'm sorry, but this is just too much. Give me a break.

[George II]

155. So is PHD, maybe we can use that?

[catbyte]

157. Sure, if his name was Phillip Henry Dixon

[MH1]

109. Meh. I agree that sometimes it is used as a tweak.

But if the audience doesn't react, then it doesn't work, it's just his initials.

So my rec is to ignore it.

[The_Counsel]

204. This.

Absolutely no further text necessary...

[murielm99]

128. I often refer to Hillary Clinton as

HRC. It is easier.

[murielm99]

131. LBJ took the IRT down to

Wall Street USA
When he got there what did he see?
The youth of America on LSD
LBJ IRT USA LSD
LSD LBJ
FBI CIA

[LuvLoogie]

137. High as you know what...

[murielm99]

160. I will have to get the "Hair" CD out,

along with some Janis Joplin. They are sitting there, right next to the John Lee Hooker and Buddy Guy I was going to play.

It is time for a little excursion back to my youth.

On edit: That is BS' youth, too. Do you think he would take offense at a reminder?

[LuvLoogie]

177. I can't imagine the Bern at a Be In. A Sit In, yes. A Be In, no.

The world needs joy. I think that is why AoC is growing on me. She has joy to spread.

[George II]

190. I'm old, I saw Hair on Broadway way back whenever!

[murielm99]

192. I saw it in Chicago the first week it opened there.

It was fun!

[TexasTowelie]

196. I was only two years old when they first performed the musical.

I only was able to attend a performance about 15 years ago at my college alma mater, but I'll throw on the CD every so often to have that excursion back to my youth.

[LongtimeAZDem]

140. +1

[George II]

156. When I was training for marathons (MANY decades ago!) we'd do LSD every second day....

When I was driving a cab in NYC I'd take the BQE to the LIE to the VWE to get to JFK, or the GSP to get to LGA.

[Sneederbunk]

133. Trump supporters suffer from the DT's.

[defacto7]

138. I think everyone knows why it's so "convenient" to use his initials

and its not only because they're initials. Just like Barack Obama supporters would never use his "BO" initials, Sanders supporters don't use Sanders' "BS" initials. 'Kinda passive agressive I think... or possibly naive.

[LongtimeAZDem]

139. I've done it elswhere, in response to his evasion of the Townhall question about harassment

I said his response was "a BS answer" and the double meaning was intentional.

[defacto7]

151. It's what we do. But some do it constantly,

and I don't think being a persistant annoyance to dems supporting other candidates is helpful to their own cause, but that's their call.

[Amimnoch]

147. I have no desire at all to engage in constructive debate with

BS’s supporters.

I will support any human being, animal, or plant that is on any ballot opposite of him.

Much as I absolutely refuse to refer to 45 by name, i equally refuse to refer to BS by name.

As much as I am a champion of critical thinking, honest and respectful debate, and empathy for the feelings of others with particular focus on concentrating on the feelings of those with opposing view points, I am completely, and even admittedly irrationally opposed to this particular candidate. Will NEVER have my support.

[David__77]

163. Thanks for sharing your view.

I appreciate that.

I hope that you don’t end up voting for Trump, and rather for someone else in the event that Sanders is the Democratic nominee.

[floppyboo]

152. Time to turn that frown upside down!

BS is fine with me. Cool is sooo hot! My bumper sticker says 'Bernie 2016 - because f**k this shit' and everytime I see BS it reminds me of the system we [edit: 'we' being those used by the corporatists worldwide] need to clean up, and everytime someone refers to Sanders as BS - I say to myself - Right on! Exactly! That's the fight - and don't forget it!

GoBernieGo!

[Progressive dog]

154. Because BS are his initials.

Bernie has control over his name, there are legal ways to change it. I was thinking George Oscar Darling might be appropriate.

[liftallboats]

161. I smell fear, and a lot of it at that.

The establishment are shitting their collective britches. Donnie Douche nearly had a stroke discussing socialism with Morning Dope. At one point he said he'd vote Trump if it came to it. Dope pointed out Donnies overstep, and a very red faced Donnie agreed. It was glorious. This genie ain't go'in back in the bottle!!!

[pnwmom]

165. AOC, HRC, JFK -- all instantly recognizable by their initials.

I looked on Wikipedia and it doesn't appear that BS has a middle initial, so we can hardly be blamed for not using it.

If you don't like his initials, blame his parents.

[tonedevil]

175. If one truly cares about being respectful...

he is a sitting Senator of the United States and much like we refer to people who practice medicine as Dr. the proper honorific is Senator. I have tried to observe the honorific rule regardless of my opinion for all politicians, until donald. I don't want to play juvenile games with his name, but I don't want to give the impression I respect him at all.

[NurseJackie]

181. I can't be "respectful" to anyone who denigrates the Democratic party...

I can't be "respectful" to anyone who denigrates the Democratic party by saying it's "the party of the elite" or "the party of the one-percent". It serves no good purpose for anyone to state that the Democratic party is "corrupt" or "feeble" or "ideologically bankrupt".

How can I "respect" anyone who intentionally does harm to the party with the claims that there's "no difference between Democrats and the GOP"?? These things are false. They're harmful. They are divisive and they weaken the party.

All I'm saying is that anything that weakens the Democratic party is something that benefits the GOP... and Trump... and Russia.

At this important juncture, we need to be doing everything we can to convince voters to come out and vote FOR Democrats... to support, donate and volunteer FOR Democrats. If people start to believe that there's "no difference" in the parties, then what incentive do they have to even bother to come out and vote?

It's just that people have to EARN my respect. I don't give it automatically just because someone has a "title" or an "office".

[tonedevil]

183. That's cool. /nt

[Gothmog]

186. We need a nominee who will unite the party

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[LongtimeAZDem]

188. I think you mean "unite". If not, the primaries will be interesting, that's for sure.

[R B Garr]

206. Agreed, great post. And after today's hire of 3rd-party

voters, BS it is.

[NurseJackie]

211. I cannot support anyone who wants to sabotage and destroy the Democratic party...

... no matter who he or she may be.

[ecstatic]

182. Most of the time, I refer to him as Bernie. I use initials for

almost everyone. Most of the time when I'm writing about him, there's a negative context and frustration--so using his name is an indication of restraint on my part. If I've referred to him as simply "BS," it means I was furious.

[California_Republic]

187. Please don't just use "Sanders"

Please don’t just use “Sanders”

I get those post mixed up with Sarah Huckabee

[Lazy Daisy]

189. simple

It's a sophomoric attempt at being clever. It's just so funny look what they did there. They used his initials as a double entendre, oh ho ho ho isn't that just so clever.

[mwooldri]

193. Some might think it should be BNADS.

Bernie "Not a Democrat" Sanders. Me... I'm of the "if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck by gosh it must be a duck" school of thought when it comes to identifying a particular persons political persuasions.

I'm OK with BS or simply Bernie. We could get formal and call him Bernard, as that is his legal first name.

[left-of-center2012]

197. It's just a juvenile attack

[NurseJackie]

198. No it's not.

[Cha]

208. It's Funny they don't want BS called

by is OWN initials.

[Cha]

207. Talk to BS about his initials instead

of accusing others of being "juvenile".

If he had other initials I'd be happy to call him by those.

[Blue_Tires]

199. "St. Bern" works for me, chief

[peggysue2]

200. They are his initials, no?

Luck of the draw, I'd say. Of course, he could always change his name.

I'll be nice and not offer up suggestions.

[Cary]

202. Please, let's find something even more petty to bicker about!

[Blue_true]

209. I would never knowingly call him BS.

I don't think that I ever have. I either call him Bernie, Bernie Sanders or Senator Sanders. I think everyone should do the same.

[Cha]

210. He's always been BS and

will be forever.