After the last 2 nights, I think the safest bet to beat Trump is a ticket with Harris & Klobuchar

[mtnsnake]

both on it together.

Plus it would mean we'd get one hell of a fantastic duo running this country after they trounce Trump and Pence. Two people who actually know how to get things done.

If Trump didn't have enough nightmares last night about the possibility of facing Klobuchar, just imagine the nightmares he'll have tonight about the possibility of facing Kamala Harris. He'll be sweating bricks of lard all night long through his jammies.

It wouldn't matter to me which one was President and which was VP, they are both that good, but I think Kamala will have a better chance of winning the Primary than Amy. I also think Buttigieg could still take home the bacon if either Klobuchar or Harris somehow don't make it.

[AdamGG]

1. Kamala/Sherrod Brown ticket would maximize electability, IMO

Sherrod Brown could be like Kamala Harris' Joe Biden, but better.

[Goodheart]

5. Love the Sherrod Brown idea.

Haven't truly decided between Warren, Harris, or Biden as the most electable.

If I alone could choose the next president it would be Pete Buttegieg.

[subterranean]

19. The only problem with that is we'd lose his much-needed Senate seat.

[Celerity]

21. yes, that would be a massive blow, especially if we gain to 51-49 good guys or even worse, 50-50

Also, Brown would turn 77 in 2029, so right back to having a POTUS who would be well into his 80's at the end of two terms (as the VP is the obvious favourite to gain the next nomination.) Biden would be 86 at the end of his two potential terms.

[gopiscrap]

2. I wouldn't mind a Harris Castro ticket

[IluvPitties]

3. Amy is like Tim Kaine in a way.

Doesn't hurt, but doesn't help either.

[mtnsnake]

4. She's nothing like Tim Kaine. nt

[IluvPitties]

8. She lacks charisma.

[mtnsnake]

13. She might not have as much charisma as Krusty the clown, but she's got enough of it

At least when I've seen her, she can be pretty charasmatic.

[marylandblue]

14. She wasn't charismatic last night. She was better at her kickoff speech.

[Celerity]

22. next debate needs to be in a snowstorm

[marylandblue]

25. lol

[ecstatic]

6. I think a double down ticket like that would win in a landslide.

People want change, dammit!

[IluvPitties]

10. Would that ticket win swing states like FL?

[mtnsnake]

11. A better question to ask would be, Would that ticket win the swing states in the Midwest?

[RhodeIslandOne]

20. Florida is fucking rigged

I'd forget that place in our electoral strategy for awhile.

[Perseus]

7. de Blasio and Harris

I think the buffoon will crap in his pants at the sight of de Blasio, and de Blasio seems to be the kind of person who will not be intimidated by anyone, least of all the buffoon.

Pence will also crap in his pants at the site of Kamala Harris.

I think people need to start looking at de Blasio, he appeals to a lot of people, and he has a good track record as Mayor of New York, he is progressive, eloquent, doesn't seem to play politics...I think we need to start taking him seriously, he could be the ticket.

[mtnsnake]

9. de Blasio is tough, no doubt about it.

[Historic NY]

15. He wouldn't carry NY State...

his latest gaff is going to sink him. "Hasta la Victoria, siempre!"


Hasta la vista, Bill.

[Drunken Irishman]

23. de Blasio would be a disaster.

No doubt he's tough but that's about all he brings to the table. He has little to no crossover appeal.

[Doreen]

12. I do not think this country is ready to have both

president and vice president women. I think at this time a man and a woman is best. Does not matter which one is which just that for now we have both.

[highplainsdem]

16. We'll have to wait to see how the two nights of debates affect the polls.

[UniteFightBack]

17. Right two people who want to get rid of private insurance...a sure bet general election LOSER. nt

[Celerity]

24. she wants to use the public option as the (to steal Pete's wording) glide path to Medicare For All

The anticipated outcome for public choice is that the private, for-profit insurers would not be able to compete with the public option, and would thus be replaced via attrition down the road.

But do not just take my word for it

she is one of the co-sponsors of just that plan

Medicare X

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/981/cosponsors?overview=closed





Bennet, Kaine Reintroduce Medicare-X to Provide Low-Cost, High-Quality Insurance to Every American

https://www.kaine.senate.gov/press-releases/bennet-kaine-reintroduce-medicare-x-to-provide-low-cost-high-quality-insurance-to-every-american

WASHINGTON, D.C. – U.S. Senators Michael Bennet (D-CO) and Tim Kaine (D-VA) today reintroduced legislation to create Medicare-X, a public plan that would offer families, individuals, and small businesses additional, low-cost health insurance choices and create more competition in the marketplace. The updated Medicare-X Choice Act of 2019 further lowers premiums and increases coverage for Medicare-X consumers and those in the individual market.

“It is a disgrace that people’s lives are upended daily in our country because they have no health insurance,” Bennet said. “We need to cover everyone, reduce costs, and improve quality—and Medicare-X is the best way to accomplish those objectives. Medicare-X starts in rural areas because the market there is failing too many Americans. And by using the existing Medicare framework, it provides a new, affordable option without adding bureaucracy. There is no excuse for us not to finish what the ACA started and close the coverage gap in America through Medicare-X.”

“Our goal is more health care options and lower costs,” Kaine said. “With those priorities top of mind, we introduced Medicare-X to give Americans more quality, affordable health care choices, especially in rural communities that face a shortage of insurance options. This bill takes additional steps to reduce premiums, increase coverage, and make health insurance more affordable. I want to make sure that Virginians – and all Americans – can get the care they need.”

Despite the success of the Affordable Care Act, too many Americans still live in areas with limited competition and unaffordable health care costs. In 2019, 17 percent of those enrolled on the exchanges lived in an area with just one insurer.

The plan would build on the Medicare framework to establish a public insurance option. Medicare-X initially would be available on the individual exchange in areas where there is a shortage of insurers or higher health care costs due to less competition—including rural communities in Colorado and Virginia. By 2024, Medicare-X would expand to every ZIP code in the country. By 2025, the public plan would be added as another option on the Small Business Health Options Program (SHOP) Marketplace.

Medicare-X would use Medicare’s network of doctors and providers and guarantee the essential health benefits established in the ACA, such as maternity care and mental health services. Additionally, it would ensure access to affordable prescription drugs by offering prices negotiated in conjunction with the Medicare Part D program.

The legislation includes several key updates to further lower costs and increase coverage. It eliminates the subsidy cliff for Americans above 400% of the Federal Poverty Level (FPL), ultimately ensuring individuals do not pay more than 13 percent of their income toward their premium for a benchmark plan. It also increases the tax credit for individuals below 400% FPL, authorizes $30 billion over three years for a national reinsurance program, and establishes a grant program to integrate social needs in the delivery of health care services.

In addition to Bennet and Kaine, the legislation is cosponsored by U.S. Senators Ben Cardin (D-MD), Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Tina Smith (D-MN), Debbie Stabenow (D-MI), Kamala Harris (D-CA), Cory Booker (D-NJ), Gary Peters (D-MI), and Dick Durbin (D-IL).

The bill text is available HERE. A summary is available HERE.

[UniteFightBack]

26. I heard her walk that back this morning. She claimed she misheard the question as would YOU

get rid of your private insurance.

[Celerity]

29. strange (but good) timing, as I just saw her on Morning Joe, and they just replayed Lester Holt's

question, and she was exactly right.

She said that Holt asked (and he did) 'Would YOU give up YOUR private insurance for a government plan' and that she was saying yes, SHE (Harris) would join in with everyone else and go on the plan.

I think they need to stop (all on MJ agreed) these stupid raise you hands question. Biden 3 times waited for the rest to do it or not, then only raised his hand half-way and then pulled it down.

It was all very confusing, especially with 10 people and so much background noise going on.

But she (Harris) deffo said the public option now and even if it went to a full-blown Medicare For All plan eventually, she would still allow for private supplemental insurance (which is how the Swedish system works, for instance, although very few actually use the private supplemental unless it is a job perk.)

[emmaverybo]

27. I don't mind political suicide. Just that it would involve the whole nation. GE loser.

[wasupaloopa]

18. Trump vs two women. You can sell tickets for that. It would be fun to watch.

[Evergreen Emerald]

28. Inslee for President.

He has the values we need
The experience in running a government
The experience in getting things we need completed: climate change, gun control, immigration