Bernie promised his campaign won't go negative "in ads". Here's a loophole

[Carrito]

Hey. No one said anything about tweets:

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[Me.]

1. Always A Loophole With Her

So last year

Welcome Carrito

[irresistable]

2. People can attack Bernie...but no one can defend him.

Got it!

[RandySF]

5. Because when they attack

We see accusation like "Kamala Harris sleeping her way to the top" or "Kamala isn't black".

[irresistable]

13. your "response" bears no resemblance to Nina Turner's link to a criticism of Julian Castro on POLICY

very weak.

[Demsrule86]

7. Attacking someone is not a defense...and I despise Nina Turner...she helped elect Trump.

[irresistable]

15. the best defense is a good offense

[Demsrule86]

32. This is why I will never support Sanders in a primary... I dislike his 'offense'.

[irresistable]

35. For me, this is why Biden is my last choice.

https://www.salon.com/2015/10/21/joe_bidens_greatest_betrayal_the_one_senate_vote_that_makes_it_hard_to_support_a_biden_run/

[Demsrule86]

105. I see Salon is at it again. First of all that bill was passing no matter what...and some stuff we

got in helped. I helped my sis with her bankruptcy...the income was 75,000. The counseling were not big deal and cheap....she is an average person and filed chapter 7. The think I wish they had not done was to make it so student loans could not be discharged in bankruptcy easily...it can be done in some cases I was told by my sis's lawyer but it is not easy. All this BS about Biden...going back to Anita Hill or heaven's sake...I am ignoring it and suspect others will too. But why bring up Biden? Were you replying to someone else?

[irresistable]

108. you were telling me who you could not support in a primary....

so I shared with you who I could not support.

Imagine someone with no income, but with more than the maximum $23,675 of equity in homes that you are allowed to keep.

Imagine that this person has a home nearly or completely paid off, huge medical and/or credit card bills due to illness that led to unemployment. They are destroyed.

[Demsrule86]

109. First of all there are state exemptions and federal exemptions . In Ohio you can use both...and the

amount is higher than your figure. That bill was going to be passed and by making it better- Biden and other Democrats did their job at the time. When we elect a Democratic president and a Democratic congress, we can change it in beneficial ways. As for Sen. Sanders I would support him in a general...but never a primary. There are plenty of reasons in the last two years in my opinion...google Hugh Mello. The charges against Biden are decades old. I would hope you would support Biden...as I expect he will be the candidate. Of course Beto has a chance also. I really don't think Sen. Sanders can win the primary.

[irresistable]

110. I will vote for the nominee.

I don't know who that will be.

[Demsrule86]

111. I want someone who can win...I like all the candidate except for two...and I would vote for those

two in a general...here is to victory...

[True Blue American]

20. Agree!

Nina is searching desperately for a job since she lost.

[Demsrule86]

33. I used to really like her. I voted for her but now she is so nasty about Democrats and she

continues to state Hillary and Bill in the back despite the fact they really helped her. I use to enjoy Cent...now I can't stand them.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

9. Yup, that's just how it is when Bernie is the favorite to win it all...

But, that's okay... soon Bernie's sweet victory will heal all wounds.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[irresistable]

17. it might be salt in the wounds of some.

[Mr Tibbs]

25. Some folks want things to stay the way they are forever

And that's their right to believe that, but more than half of the nation is ready to move past this broken, rigged system.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

34. That's fo sho!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[NastyRiffraff]

96. Yes, the blind shall see

and the lame shall walk, all thanks to Saint Bernard!

[Demsrule86]

106. And if he doesn't win?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

3. Oh boy.

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[InAbLuEsTaTe]

10. Oh boy is right!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[RandySF]

4. Bernie doesn't need to go negative

when he has Nina Turner, Dave Sirota and Glenn Greenwald to do his dirty work.

[forklift]

47. and Cenk Uygur nt

[Lazy Daisy]

6. That's negative?

Got it. Will keep this in mind over the next year. Be careful where you place those goal posts, you may run head on into them.

[Demsrule86]

8. Yes it is negative...and I am sick of supposed Democrats attacking President Obama and the

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Democratic Party... I refer to Nina Turner... who supported Stein and helped elect Trump. But of course, she has no words of condemnation for Trump's guy? Only Democrats. My hope is that Sen. Sanders is out early before too much damage is done to our candidates and our party.

[Lazy Daisy]

12. Again

Be careful where you place the goal posts.

And BTW, "supposed" Democrats......it's divisive. I'm a registered Democrat. I donate money and time. Am I not a Democrat?

[Demsrule86]

21. You are a Democrat but Sen. Sanders is not. He is running as a Democrat for the primary.

I was referring to Nina Turner who supports Greens, and even Republicans in 'Our Revolution' while progressive Democrats like Sherrod Brown must 'earn' their spot. I do not believe Nina Turner is a Democrat. She once was and I voted for her in Ohio...but not any more. She helped elect Trump.

If I Had any intention of supporting Sen. Sanders in the primary, the ship sailed when he appointed Nina. To be fair I doubt I would have supported him anyway. I do not believe he can win a general and I want to win in 2020...sure I would support and vote for him in a general...but I fear we would lose. This simply can't happen.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

16. Maybe you should take it up with Castro first.

[Demsrule86]

19. Yeah let's chat...so Castro called out Sanders on reparations...and rather than reply on this issue,

his surrogates attack Obama, Castro and the Democratic Party on a completely separate issue. So my hope is that Sanders is out odf the primary quickly before real damage is done to our eventual nominee and our party. And no I don't believe Sanders can win a primary. Although, I will vote for and work my ass for him if he should win in the general.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

22. One is an attack and the other is a call out?

Ummmm ok.

And of course they aren’t completely different issues. But whatever...

[Demsrule86]

30. Castro brought up a campaign issue...it has been discussed quite often this year. Instead of

giving his reasons why he is for or against reparations...he attacks Castro for past actions during the Obama administration that have nothing to do with the primary...year that is an attack in my view. I would add that my niece went into the Air Force because the student load program was so bad under Bush...she would be ready for classes and no money...and she did it the earliest she could. The banks redlined too...so not only was it an attack but it was unfair and not true as well. We need to do something about student loans no doubt but...lets think about it logically and not attack Democrats unfairly. And since 2010 when some voter including some on our side abandoned Pres. Obama, we have not had the power to do much.

[Demsrule86]

31. Reparations and student loans ...yes they are.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

37. He was HUD Secretary. What do student loans have to do with this?

[Demsrule86]

104. They contributed to income inequality or so it was claimed. I do not think Casto nor Obama have

to do with income inequality. Why go from reparations to income inequality...it was an attack pure and simple...most unbecoming.

[Demsrule86]

102. Castro was talking about reparations which has been discussed quite a bid...but the attack was

when Castro was working for Obama...not now...thus it is inappropriate, an attack and why I hope Sen. Sanders would not run.

[liberalnarb]

38. Who mentioned Obama?

[Demsrule86]

97. This happened under Obama thus, was OIbama's policy that was called into question which is very

unfair. Obama took the loans away from the banks and saved kids tons of money and made it so they could get it...stopped the redlining as well...sure there needs to be more...he also started giving breaks on paying it back ...based on income...so I was really pissed about the entire thing.

[Amimnoch]

94. You and me both.

His running again ONLY hurts our chances of reclaiming the presidency in 2020.

Personally, I'd like to see 45 OUT of the Whitehouse.

[Demsrule86]

98. I agree that his running hurts our chances...and already you see why I hoped he would not run with

surrogates on the attack mode for everything...he will be vetted this time. I hope he is out quickly...I think Biden is the only candidate that can win...I would like to see Kamala Harris as VP.

[Amimnoch]

99. Biden's not my first choice, BUT

If he heads out as the frontrunner, I would have a huge smile on my face to support him in the General.

[Demsrule86]

101. I will support the nominee...I like most of them...I just think Biden has experience and can win.

[Amimnoch]

103. In this big field, there's only

Three that I'm not terribly crazy about but would support come the GE, even if not fully enthusiastic about.

One that I can't discuss my level of opposition without breaking a rule, so will plead the 5th.

I agree that Biden's one of the more easily electable.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

14. Seriously!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[Demsrule86]

100. Yes it is...it is an entirely different issue.

[WeekiWater]

11. Stein and her surrogates are working hard. NT

[CrossingTheRubicon]

18. One of my favorite fables as a child was "The Scorpion and the Frog."

A scorpion asks a frog to carry it across a river.

The frog hesitates, afraid of being stung by the scorpion, but the scorpion argues that if it did that, they would both drown.

The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion.

The scorpion climbs onto the frog's back and the frog begins to swim, but midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog, dooming them both.

The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung the frog, to which the scorpion replies "I couldn't help it. It's in my nature."

[Cha]

23. What does Turner know.. she got sucked into

voting for jill stein's fucking lies.. And, doesn't know the difference between Democrats and fucking fascists..

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[True Blue American]

80. As I said

Nina Turner will go anywhere,do anything to try and stay relevant.

After losing as Ohio Rep. she went to, supported Stein, Bernie, anyone who would accept her. She mgade it to CNN for a while as a pundit.

[Hortensis]

24. Sanders HAS to go negative big time against Democrats,

even if he mostly holds off long enough to reassure those people who want to believe he meant this. Most won't hold a running stream of low-grade criticisms against him, itm.

But he's leading a populist campaign, and those worst of his followers who are caught up by populist fervor require him to lead them in attacking "the evil elites." It's in the very definition of populism. They are the true Democrats and those in government are evil elites who must be brought down.

So whether those people come from the insurgent left or are fallaway trumpsters Sanders is hoping to draw in larger numbers this time, they will cheer his attacking Democratic leaders. And if he were to disappoint, most of their type would drop him like an old, cold potato.

[Mr Tibbs]

26. He just has to be honest

The negative AGAINST Sanders is already at full steam.

[Cha]

27. Yeah, BS is getting Vetted this time.

[liberalnarb]

40. "BS" How mature.

[Cha]

42. Yes, BS is getting Vetted this time.

[liberalnarb]

44. Sure. I was pointing out how immature it is to use his initials as a dig.

Repugs did the same with President Obama.

[sheshe2]

54. I am not a Repug...

And at times called him PBO. You can go to the BOG ( Barack Obama Group) and check it out.

Just saying.

[liberalnarb]

55. I'm sure if you didnt include "P" it would be taken differetly.

[sheshe2]

56. He was President at the time.

I added the P. I will do the same if BS becomes President. PBS, will I get called out that the meaning of PBS means Public Broadcast System?

[liberalnarb]

57. Fine. But I think its obvious that lots of DUers who hate Bernie use "BS" to be derogatory.

[Cha]

60. Those are BS' initials.. deal with it or not.

[liberalnarb]

66. How does one "deal with" someones initials?

Your intentions are obvious.

[Cha]

67. I don't care if you can't handle

BS' initials.

[liberalnarb]

69. You're right. I CAN'T HANDLE IT!!

I'M MELTING!!!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

63. See what you mean... so obvious.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[George II]

93. What are Senator Sanders' initials?

[Cha]

62. I think it's telling that some can't

handle BS' initials. Like their complaining about it is going to stop anyone from using his initials.

[sheshe2]

64. Remember what they said about the BO Group?

[Cha]

65. I'm sure they had more

than a few choice words for President Barack Obama.

I give them no quarter.. some think it's fine what Omar is fabricating against President Obama.

[sheshe2]

71. Remember this.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10025060206#post347

[Cha]

73. Oh Yeah, the Beautiful BOG!!

I posted that before I saw what I posted in 2014. lol

Brawahahahaha!



Nice Blast from the Past, she.. Mahalo!

BOGs can be Thriving, she.. depends on who's tending them

[sheshe2]

74. Hugs to ya Cha!

[Cha]

59. It's telling you can't handle BS' initials.

[Hortensis]

41. Shrug. Many insist on believing that Sanders was

honest when he stated outright, sighed and implied, even filed temporary lawsuits, claiming that dozens of state parties (with Hillary's help, of course) stole nearly every primary he didn't get a majority in. That that also requires them to believe dozens of state Democratic parties are every bit as dirty as the Republicans has never seemed to be a problem.

It'll be like vetting Trump for his base. Fake media. Now, the many millions who want them all vetted are another matter. Thank goodness.

[Cha]

43. I know, Hortensis.. BS was the OPPOSITE.

[Hortensis]

46. Well, it helps me at least to remember

that 60 million and more voters are not coming to places like this to argue nonsense with True Believers.

The message from the midterms was extremely encouraging. Those who came out to vote in Blue Tsunami numbers wanted good progressive government and voted for the kind of people who can and will cooperate to get things done.

[Cha]

61. Yes, The BIG BLUEWAVE was really Great

for Democracy.. others not so much.

[Mr Tibbs]

48. It'll be fun to watch!

Can't wait

[Hortensis]

28. Are you sure honesty would be key?

He did far better than most imagined he could last time. Of course he had special help, but social media assistance mainly focused on augmenting behaviors that created great, proven loyalty in his base.

[Mr Tibbs]

49. Yes

People see him as honest. It's a large part of his draw.

[Hortensis]

50. People see Trump as honest.

It’s a large part of his draw.

(Yoooge, actually.)

[Mr Tibbs]

51. Um, no.

[ehrnst]

90. Actually, yes.

The same exact dynamic is playing out with the apparent murder by Saudi Arabia of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Trump has applied the “innocent until proven guilty” notion to the Saudi state, even directly comparing the case to Kavanaugh’s. Despite the reported audio evidence of Khashoggi’s brutal dismemberment at the hands of Saudi officials, physical evidence of an attempted cover-up, and the plain fact that Khashoggi entered a Saudi Consulate never to be seen again, Trump is treating the case as a stone-cold whodunit. Don’t be surprised when, in spite of all this evidence, whatever cover story is eventually manufactured for Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman, or any other probable culprits, is ultimately accepted as fact by Trump and then by his followers. Once again, the lie will then become the fact.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/10/trump-lies-kavanaugh-khashoggi.html

[Lazy Daisy]

36. isn't it funny

Nina Turner responds to Castro - negative

But Castro making a snide comment about something Sanders said - all well and good.

Those who are in the low percentages of support will be used to do the attacking and negativity so the "chosen one" won't have to get their hands dirty. Will be interesting to see where this goes.

[NurseJackie]

45. ...

[CrossingTheRubicon]

29. Correct. There is no other way for a populist to campaign.

It is in their nature.

It is as destructive as hell.

[Hortensis]

91. "No chord in populism reverberates more strongly than the notion

that the robust common sense of an unstained outsider is the best medicine for an ailing polity. Caligula doubtless got big cheers from the plebs when he installed his horse as proconsul." ~ Alexander Cockburn.

Of course. As easy to imagine across two millennia as if they were at it today.

[liberalnarb]

39. This was a response to criticism. Not an unpromted attack.

Nina is part of the campaign, but this was not tweeted on behalf of the campaign.

[CrossingTheRubicon]

52. That's not an excuse that's going to fly.

[liberalnarb]

53. That seems unfair.

[Cha]

76. It sure as shite isn't helping Turner..

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[jaceaf]

78. come on?

She's getting a paycheck from BS, if his followers don't take the tone from her, then whom?

[George II]

95. When did Castro criticize Turner?

[Carrito]

58. Journalist fact-checks Turner's claim about Castro

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[Cha]

68. Mahalo, Carrito!

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Nina Turner always needs Fact Checking.

[Cha]

70. BS broke this promise..

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[Eric J in MN]

72. Julian Castro went negative against Bernie first.

Nina Turner was reacting to that.

[Cha]

75. Awww...

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Oh and Turner doesn't know what she's talking about..

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[Eric J in MN]

82. Nina Turner didn't support Jill Stein for president.

They were at the same event. Note that the audio isn't Turner endorsing Stein.

[Cha]

83. YES she did.. Turner's not as clever as she thinks she is..

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[Eric J in MN]

84. A video of Nina Turner saying she's not endorsing anyone

...isn’t proof she endorsed Jill Stein.

[Cha]

86. And, then Turner is Whooping it up with Jill Stein

at a stein event. It doesn't take a fucking genius to figure it out.

Nina isn't "for the American People".. she's for her own petty self as she's perched up there saying she's Not backing the Democratic Candidate.

She enabled trump getting rigged in.. Turner is part of the problem Not the solution.

[Eric J in MN]

87. It wasn't a Jill Stein event.

It was the “People’s Convention.”

[Cha]

88. Riiiight! & nina turner sat home on her

ass and pouted on one of the most important elections in our lifetime.

[Demsrule86]

107. She was offered the VP slot for the Greens and said Bernie voters need to search their hearts.

a bout voting for Hillary...their name was on the voter registration card etc. She never endorsed Hillary and kicked out a Hillary supporter from Our revolution after the election. She also supported getting delegates to switch their vote...that alone makes me dislike he,r and I am from Ohio I voted for her before.

[jaceaf]

77. really?

Where did Castro say he wasn't vetting Bernie?

Bernie is the one that has repeatedly said recently that the campaign won't go negative.

Just to be clear, that to you means, that he won't do it as long as no one else does? We all know they hypocrisy as BS and his supporters don't stop for even a minute from spending huge amounts of time online and through youtube trying to bring down the democratic party.

Any democrat falling for faux democrat BS' call for civility is a fool.

[Eric J in MN]

81. Bernie didn't mean that the campaign won't respond. NT

NT

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

89. Details, details!!

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

[George II]

92. No he didn't.

[roody]

79. Is it true?

[Cha]

85. NO.

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