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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 08:38 AM Jul 2019

***NEW*** Washington Post/ABC (A+ Rated) Poll - Biden 29%, Sanders 23%, Harris 11%, Warren 11%

This was conducted many more days, post-debate, than the other newly-released polls (June 28 to July 1).

The bubble has already burst!


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/harris-scores-debate-performance-electability-biden-front/story?id=64092090

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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***NEW*** Washington Post/ABC (A+ Rated) Poll - Biden 29%, Sanders 23%, Harris 11%, Warren 11% (Original Post) Skya Rhen Jul 2019 OP
KR.. Mahalo, Skya! Cha Jul 2019 #1
Mahalo, Cha!!! Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #4
polls are all over the place JI7 Jul 2019 #2
That was my first thought, too. LuvNewcastle Jul 2019 #5
Margin of error. TwilightZone Jul 2019 #25
A Poll with a Margin of Error of 5% LovingA2andMI Jul 2019 #30
I would like to see what CNN and MSNBC have to say about this - if they even cover it... Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #3
I would be surprised... Grendam Jul 2019 #6
It does not surprise me at all. I was counting it down. ooky Jul 2019 #32
They are shoving Harris down our throats...and I don't think she wins...they are criticizing Biden Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #20
That sounds about right. ucrdem Jul 2019 #7
The race is wide open; at least for the top 4. Agschmid Jul 2019 #8
There's an error. Sanders has 13, not 23 Curky Jul 2019 #9
Oh wow.. I wondered about that.. Cha Jul 2019 #10
Good catch . nt LibFarmer Jul 2019 #13
Good catch...very observant of you ...I was surprised but didn't bother to check it out. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #21
From the link: Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #24
The media dismissed Sanders after the debates, but I though he did pretty well. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #35
It's qualifying. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #36
Of course it is...hahah...but fair is fair. I call them like I see them... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #37
. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #38
haha... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #39
Yay! nt LibFarmer Jul 2019 #11
SANDERS 13% PLEASE CORRECT THIS crazytown Jul 2019 #12
Which poll are you looking at? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2019 #27
Oh Gawd - I'm sorry. Sanders did poll 23% crazytown Jul 2019 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author crazytown Jul 2019 #14
Wut? OhZone Jul 2019 #15
What a great way to start my day... Peacetrain Jul 2019 #16
These numbers are good...maybe Harris attacks are backfiring...even the best polls for her show him Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #22
I have posted this till people probably want me to go away Peacetrain Jul 2019 #23
I agree. I wish none of our candidates had gone down this road...it does help the right. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #28
And you have bolstered mine!! Peacetrain Jul 2019 #31
It is a long road...I wish campaigns did not start so soon. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author bluewater Jul 2019 #17
I think they called all three but only polled the last two groups: ucrdem Jul 2019 #18
Good Catch. My mistake. bluewater Jul 2019 #19
no worries! ucrdem Jul 2019 #26
Did you see some trying to make 'new' Iowa poll a 'shakeup' Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #33
Thanks once again for the update, Skya peggysue2 Jul 2019 #40
 

Cha

(295,899 posts)
1. KR.. Mahalo, Skya!
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 08:40 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JI7

(89,173 posts)
2. polls are all over the place
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 08:42 AM
Jul 2019

i think people change minds even day by day.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

LuvNewcastle

(16,820 posts)
5. That was my first thought, too.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 08:55 AM
Jul 2019

I think they're choices will become locked in more after there are more debates. These debates are going to be really crucial this year, I think.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TwilightZone

(25,342 posts)
25. Margin of error.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:16 AM
Jul 2019

The MOE in many of these polls is in the 5% range. Apparent swings could be, in part, just movement within the MOE.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LovingA2andMI

(7,006 posts)
30. A Poll with a Margin of Error of 5%
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:28 AM
Jul 2019

Is NOT a Valid poll. Thank you for this information.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
3. I would like to see what CNN and MSNBC have to say about this - if they even cover it...
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 08:44 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Grendam

(38 posts)
6. I would be surprised...
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 08:59 AM
Jul 2019

if CNN makes any reference to it or others. From what I've seen for quite some time (and it bothers me quite a bit) is that no other polls exist to CNN other than their own. MSNBC at least acknowledges and discusses other polls from time to time. I don't watch enough Fox News to have any idea.

Regarding MSNBC/CNN, it's striking how negative both networks are on Biden. Other than a few of the conservative pundits (like the Never Trumpers), only Joe and Mika are remotely positive on Joe. I'm really straining to think of someone on CNN. Only one I can really think of is Michael Smerconish, but he's really a conservative-leaning talk radio guy that just has a Saturday morning TV show there. I haven't seen much Don Lemon in the last several weeks, but I caught him a week or two ago defending Biden over some of the criticism he was getting. Though he could have just been playing devil's advocate. But really, I'm just really disappointed how many of the anchors/hosts (day and night) are seemingly dragging Biden all the time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ooky

(8,885 posts)
32. It does not surprise me at all. I was counting it down.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:35 AM
Jul 2019

The corporate infotainment wants to create a horse race and push who they believe to be an unelectable candidate into the general election against Trump. Notice how Republicans joined them in the non-stop Biden bashing and Harris praising media blitz that immediately followed the debate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
20. They are shoving Harris down our throats...and I don't think she wins...they are criticizing Biden
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:05 AM
Jul 2019

constantly and not a word about Harris's conduct as DA and AG...I have removed both from my DVR...not going to watch them help elect Trump again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
7. That sounds about right.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 09:05 AM
Jul 2019

The race is tightening, and the debates were widely viewed, but if past is prologue Harris is not going to pass Biden anytime soon. And most people still know very little about her except how she performed on Thursday.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
8. The race is wide open; at least for the top 4.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 09:11 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Curky

(45 posts)
9. There's an error. Sanders has 13, not 23
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 09:13 AM
Jul 2019

Please correct.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(295,899 posts)
10. Oh wow.. I wondered about that..
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 09:15 AM
Jul 2019

Thank you, Curky.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
21. Good catch...very observant of you ...I was surprised but didn't bother to check it out.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:05 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,272 posts)
24. From the link:
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:16 AM
Jul 2019
In current preferences, 29% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents support Biden and 23% favor Sanders, with 11% apiece for Harris and Elizabeth Warren. The number of undecided potential voters has dropped sharply after the first debates, with gains in support for each of these candidates. Others are in the low single digits, at best.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
35. The media dismissed Sanders after the debates, but I though he did pretty well.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:59 AM
Jul 2019

So I am not surprised.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
37. Of course it is...hahah...but fair is fair. I call them like I see them...
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 11:31 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
12. SANDERS 13% PLEASE CORRECT THIS
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 09:17 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,272 posts)
27. Which poll are you looking at?
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:22 AM
Jul 2019
In current preferences, 29% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents support Biden and 23% favor Sanders, with 11% apiece for Harris and Elizabeth Warren. The number of undecided potential voters has dropped sharply after the first debates, with gains in support for each of these candidates. Others are in the low single digits, at best.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

crazytown

(7,277 posts)
29. Oh Gawd - I'm sorry. Sanders did poll 23%
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:28 AM
Jul 2019

I f'cked up. :red face:

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
16. What a great way to start my day...
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 09:29 AM
Jul 2019

those are good numbers.. very good..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
22. These numbers are good...maybe Harris attacks are backfiring...even the best polls for her show him
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:07 AM
Jul 2019

still carrying the majority of Black vote...and when her record as AG and DA is vetted, I think that will decline.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
23. I have posted this till people probably want me to go away
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:11 AM
Jul 2019

but, I have not seen any movement away from the Veep, since the debate in Iowa.. other people are getting the treatment now.. hate it.. just gives the right more ammo..but that is the process..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
28. I agree. I wish none of our candidates had gone down this road...it does help the right.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:26 AM
Jul 2019

And I love your posts...Peace-you have bols tered my sagging morale more than once. thanks!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,836 posts)
31. And you have bolstered mine!!
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:32 AM
Jul 2019

We keep each others heads in the game.. and eyes on the prize...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
34. It is a long road...I wish campaigns did not start so soon.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:58 AM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Skya Rhen (Original post)

 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
18. I think they called all three but only polled the last two groups:
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:00 AM
Jul 2019

The link describes it this way:

In current preferences, 29% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents support Biden and 23% favor Sanders, with 11% apiece for Harris and Elizabeth Warren.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
19. Good Catch. My mistake.
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:03 AM
Jul 2019

The line break messed with my poor eyesight, Thanks for pointing out my mistake.

Sorry all. Self deleting post.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
26. no worries!
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:20 AM
Jul 2019

Better to be suspicious than to be a sucker!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
33. Did you see some trying to make 'new' Iowa poll a 'shakeup'
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 10:39 AM
Jul 2019

But it was sourced immediately after the debates and even then...show a statistical tie...haha.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,811 posts)
40. Thanks once again for the update, Skya
Wed Jul 3, 2019, 12:41 PM
Jul 2019

Good news and play it forward

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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