I have posted various map I encourage you to make your own and post them...https://www.270towin.com

[Demsrule86]

This post has been cleaned up (map code) and updated.

This map shows what happens when we lose MI, WI and PA...what we have to overcome in terms of numbers...obviously we lose if this is the map. This is how Trump will try to win. My conclusion (yours may be different ) is that we barely lost in 16 in the MI, WI and PA and with the proper candidate, we can beat Trump in those states and out he goes. Biden was born in PA and has a connectin with those states. Thus I believe he has the best chance. He also has a shot in Florida which is huge. If we are not careful and run a disasterous candidate who has adopted issues that will not work in a general, we could lose states like Virginia too. We need a big tent approach. My final map is a Senate map demonstrating our difficulties in regaining a senate majority.

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This map shows what happens if we take three states...MI WI and PA. This is rebuilding the the blue wall. And we barely lost...last time. WE WIN!!!!!!!!!! Please consider that we have no realistic path...one that has acutally happened in the last few decades without rebuilding the blue wall. A candidate like Biden with ties to the region can do this...the others I simply don't think they can or will.




This map shows us taking three different states ...Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina. I don't see Texas as flipping but I will show a map a bit later that addresses Texas. We do win in this scenario but how likely would it be that we win these states? It has been decades since we won Arizona or Georgia...as for Carolina we won in 08 barely. I also submit a progressive candidate who can appeal to moderates would have a better chance with this strategy. It is very risky as it is likely we will win none of those states.

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Now here is Texas without any other states...although I do think Texas would be a blow out and we would win in other places...but we have not taken Texas in decades. Thus I consider it unlikely.



Below is a Senate Map. Please note the very light greyish area have no seats up in 20...as you can see...we have to win in what is now red or purple areas. It is very difficult...and I believe it is likely we will lose Doug Jones seat...so how do we retake the Senate without appealing to moderates and perhaps even some conservatives?

[Desert grandma]

1. I absolutely agree. Thank you.

I am voting for Joe as well because I do consider him as the best candidate to recapture the states we barely lost in 2016. I do hope we as a party will coalesce around the eventual nominee. My view, is like you, Demsrule86, the map and the political reality of an electoral college win, means Joe Biden is the best candidate to beat the Orange Buffoon. He has my vote right now, because my main issue in the next election is GETTING RID OF THE CORRUPT ORANGE BUFFOON. Policy is secondary to that goal for me.

[Demsrule86]

2. sorry for the sloppy map...I accidentally posted before I had checked it for errors and cleaned it

up. I am voting for Joe too...I also believe he has the best shot of coattails for the Senate. I agree with everything you said.

[Honeycombe8]

3. Wow. Well, that brings the importance of WI, MI, & PA home. What a difference they make.

Great post. Thanks!

[Demsrule86]

5. Thank you. And it is important going forward as well after 2020.

After we won Virginia...the GOP were screwed...but if they can continue to win those three states...we will never win which is why we need to reach out to those voters. And did you see the Senate map? enough to make you cry.

[Honeycombe8]

7. +1. No wonder we don't win like the old days...something's gone very wrong. nt

[Demsrule86]

8. Sadly yes. We were sitting pretty and I was psyched because there was not path for the GOP...

but unless we reverse the blue wall debacle of 16, we are screwed ...in 20, 24...etc etc etc.

[Honeycombe8]

9. +1. nt

[MFGsunny]

4. Picture worth a 1,000,000 GOTV words ... n/t

[Demsrule86]

6. Yes it is... We don't have a popular vote election...the electoral college is all important.

Thanks for the reply!

[Lucid Dreamer]

10. Nicely done.

I am a map and data nut. This brings those two interests together beautifully.

I'm going to play with these and use them to illustrate what I consider the best Dem strategy for '20 elections. One premise is that the Dem candidate shouldn't even campaign in a few states like CA and NY. It's a waste of time and money.


Thanx for bringing these to my attention.

[Demsrule86]

11. I lived outside of nNew York and we rarely saw candidates.

But you have to think of down ballot races...if possible.

[ucrdem]

12. Go blue wall!

Hurtful are not those 3 states are Joe territory and he has been sewing up a win there for ten years. Bernie had some luck in 2016 but this time it's going to take more than magic beans to get those votes.