Our candidates cannot promise everyone .. everything..

[Peacetrain]

We will not be giving free college to everyone.. no matter what financial position they are in..
but can we extend community college to all who want it, .. that would be more doable

We cannot forgive all student loans that are out there..
but can we help people who have lower income jobs extend their payments so they do not destroy people,and if people go
bankrupt add student debt to that to get people back on their feet (student loan bankruptcy is possible now but a whole different
kind of critter..make it just part of a regular bankruptcy process) ... seems more doable


We cannot give Medicare to all.. medicare is an insurance plan that pays 80% of the bills for the retired..they also pay out at a much
lower rate.. and there are many Dr.s who will not take medicare patients.. and smaller hospitals could not even keep the doors open
with just medicare payments.... the ACA is much more doable..

The borders will never be open.. we would cease to be a country.. but people should be able to apply to get in here..we need to have
the judges on hand to take care of people coming in and asking for sanctuary.. not everyone is going to get it..but we need to treat
people in a humane and decent way.. this is what we did under previous administrations and it is doable

We have to get back on the horse with conservation.. and restart treaties to protect our environment.. and get our environmental
policies back in order

We can't do everything, but we can do many things.. but nothing comes easy.. all of it will be work.. this is what I hope to hear our people talk about in the next debate

[hlthe2b]

1. I like plans and well-stated positions, but yes, all the proposals are becoming overwhelming and

to some extent, cringe-worthy. I'm not singling out any one candidate, but rather the cumulative effect.

The sooner we get to two or three leading candidates fighting it out (and thus, prioritizing their proposals), the better.

[Peacetrain]

3. I hear that.. with so many people trying to carve out a space..

wild promises that will do nothing but disappoint is bound to occur..it is overwhelming

[pazzyanne]

18. Here is one of the reasons I support Amy Klobuchar and her healthcare plan:

See the overview of Amy's plan at the link below.

https://www.klobuchar.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/health-care

[hlthe2b]

20. Yes. I heard an interview with her speaking on it a few days ago (Hardball? )

She is good and I'm a bit surprised she isn't gaining more traction. It remains early.

[pazzyanne]

22. She has been one of my Senators since 2007.

She has had a high approval rating here in Minnesota, and has sane and sensible policies. She is definitely worth a second in depth look for race for a presidential candidate.

[customerserviceguy]

62. She is indeed

a sensible person, I just wish she could vault into double digits in the polls. But, the "here's another free thing to be paid for by the rich" folks are ahead of her, unfortuately.

[saidsimplesimon]

2. How about talking affordable?

Why not tie educational loans to a stint of public service for repayment? Yeah, so yesterday....

[Peacetrain]

5. I have no problem in the world with that.. Like extending out Americorp educational awards..

beyond the 5,000 so that it actually covers a year or two of college debt.. works for me

[saidsimplesimon]

7. Thanks, let's make it happen.

[Mr.Bill]

10. We are already doing that to some degree.

My daughter went back to school in her late 30s to get her Masters degree in Clinical Nursing. She had already been working as an RN at the same hospital for over ten years. She owes a mid five figure sum on that schooling but there is a program that forgives the debt if she works at a rural hospital for so many years. The hospital she already works at qualifies.

It's a way of placing people with certain skills where they are currently scarce and needed. Similar programs exist for teachers and other professionals, I believe.

These programs could be expanded and help a lot of people and communities.

[saidsimplesimon]

11. Thanks for the update Mr. Bill.

Wow, the 30's? My father was born in 1933. As a pre-teen, he worked on steel construction at Wright Air Force Base in Ohio. Before that, he lied about his age and worked along with others in a Three C camp.

Memories of a WW2 Veteran.

[Mr.Bill]

13. Not the 30s, her 30s.

Nursing is a profession where the educational process never stops. I my state RNs have to complete continuing education units just to maintain their license.

The Masters degree moved her into a more administrative position where she is supervising two departments in the hospital.

[snowybirdie]

4. TRump has done

So much damage, that it will take the next President time to turn it all around. The great big changes will get done, but you have to put the house back together first.

[Peacetrain]

6. We are going to have to rebuild from the basement up.. he has done so much damage

and the 35% of his howlers on the right will be throwing bombs at the new President non stop.

[gtar100]

8. Are those Biden's positions? We can't do all of X but we can do a little of it.

I'm not expecting miracles from any of our candidates but is Biden the self-proclaimed "realist" who wants our votes because we need to keep our needs in check? All these things that "we cannot" do, other candidates have spelled out how they could. So Biden is drawing a clear distinction between he and the others by being the no-we-can't candidate. My preference for Warren is precisely because she doesn't make empty promises but provides some details on how she would like to accomplish her platform goals. And her goals are very reasonable and progressive. We need more than just going back to some fictitious status quo. The real status quo over the last 40 years is how we got into this mess in the first place.

[Demsrule86]

16. Biden will be honest about what is possible.

[Hoyt]

9. We are definitely going to have to help the rich earn more so we can tax the

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heck out of them to pay for everything. I hope someone prioritizes all this soon.

[Bradshaw3]

12. Which candidate has promised everything to everyone?

I haven't seen anyone do that.

[Demsrule86]

15. Pretty much all of them except Biden...free college and free medical...it won't happen.

[Bradshaw3]

35. So "pretty much all of them" means no one

Got it. Either list them with their proposals to give "everything to everyone" or stop false claims about Democratic candidates.

[Demsrule86]

37. Every candidate except Biden has a laundry list of policy which I think is a bad idea...run

on a couple of general things....that are acceptable to a range of voters...and you win. Warren is particularly invested in this sort of thing with just about every issue I can think of... MFA, free college, reparations,

'Elizabeth Warren has a universal child care plan. She has a plan to crack down on corruption in defense procurement. She wants to make it legal to indict a sitting president. She has an ambitious reproductive rights agenda, and a plan to break up big technology companies; that plan is actually separate from her larger idea to rework antitrust policy. She also has an expansive “economic patriotism” agenda. And a big plan for free college and student debt cancellation. Much of this would be paid for by a big new tax on large accumulated fortunes.

That’s to say nothing of her plan to end shareholder supremacy in corporate America, her expansive housing agenda, her plan on private prisons, her plan to reduce racial disparities in maternal mortality, her climate plan, or her plan for rural America...'

'... In the real world, there is no way legislation of this scope is going to be enacted regardless of who prevails in 2020. As a result, the proliferation of plans is in some regards more of a branding exercise than a real guide to what America would look like under a Warren administration...'

From Vox.

[Bradshaw3]

39. Warren is able to do both and it's working

Maybe that's why Biden is slipping in the polls while Warren with all her well-detailed policies that she is able to explain to voters keeps moving up.

[Demsrule86]

40. I predict she will not win the nomination...and I don't think she could win a general in

a center left country...I would vote for her but she won't take the states we need. We have to ditch Trump. Thus, I like Warren but won't voter for her in a primary ...only a general.

[Bradshaw3]

67. I predict your opinions are wrong

Warren has already shown she appeals to the kind of voters in the Midwest who voted for Obama, then rump. We do have to win those voters back and Warren can do that. You are looking at things throug a lef-right lens like the MSM does. The voters are not looking at things that way; Warren's economic populism appeals to many of those disaffected voters, as well as appealing to the white suburban women who led to the big gains in the midterms. She will win the states we need.

[Demsrule86]

69. I predict I am not wrong. The South Carolina polls came out...not good for her.

[Demsrule86]

48. I would add what works in a primary does not always work in a general.

[riverine]

17. Yours has.

From reparations to free college, free healthcare, debt forgiveness, free down payments on homes, etc.

https://elizabethwarren.com/


Joe Biden Takes Shot at Rivals Like Bernie and Warren: I’m Not Saying ‘Let’s Make Everything Free for Everyone


’https://www.mediaite.com/tv/joe-biden-takes-shot-at-rivals-like-bernie-and-warren-im-not-saying-lets-make-everything-free-for-everyone/

In fact Warren has a plan to pay back taxes to gay couples who couldn't marry.

[crazytown]

24. cf "Nothing would fundamentally change" Biden

Joe is the , the 'scott free' candidate - the wealthy, the powerful, the well connected get off scott free. Business as usual gave us Trump - count me out.

[Demsrule86]

41. Are you kidding...you saying a Biden administration would be the sames as a Trump administration?

That is not true at all... and an attack on Biden really...he is not the same as Trump and his administration would look nothing like a Trump administration. I would be thrilled to have Biden in the White House and Trump in the big house.

[Demsrule86]

64. Yeah well you knew that what he said was "we can address inequality and nothing will fundamentally

change for you." They can afford more...He is right...he added to them the reason income inequality must be addressed..".Because when we have income inequality as large as we have in the United States today, it brews and ferments political discord and basic revolution.”

So, the other campaigns are being dishonest, but truth will out...this will fall flat as did the other unfair gotcha attacks.

[AlexSFCA]

30. what is his message exactly? Back to 2010?

I like Biden like most Americans but I’ve been quite disappointed in his campaign. He still needs to energize dems and the only way that works is proposing radical change. Curious what Steyer has to offer. Mayor Pete is still the most articulate, positive and non divisive person running. Even if we understand Biden’s intentions, his whole campaign seems just plain lazy without innovation. We do need radical change, now more than ever. I’m not saying MFA is that but SC reform is a good start.

[Demsrule86]

42. Health care jobs...things that most Americans care about...justice reform...you can google it...it

is out there...posted links but there was little interest.

[BeyondGeography]

52. Republican epiphanies, ie two steps back, one step forward

based on my assessment of past attempts to secure Republican support for Democratic goals. Given his half-a-loaf starting point, a certain realism, I’ll grant him that.

[Demsrule86]

59. Are you calling Biden a Republican...not true at all.

[BeyondGeography]

63. Yeah, sure, that's what I did

[Demsrule86]

65. It sure sounded so, but I will take your word for it naturally.

[Bradshaw3]

34. That isn't "promising everything to everyone" and it is wrong to characterize it that way

Unlike Biden, Warren has not only made concrete proposals to take on these issues but has ways to pay for them. And "etc." does NOT mean "everything" and they are not for "everyone". Labelling them as such is lying about what she has proposed.

I think this has to do with Biden's falling numbers and the fact Warren continues to climb and her big fundraising haul. Debate what she has actually proposed. Lying about her positions shows desperaton.

[Demsrule86]

43. Biden is still ahead by double digits and I believe will win the primary...so that is untrue. I

think Warren is not electable in a general due to running left...I would vote for her but she would lose important moderate states in the rust belt.

[Bradshaw3]

68. Your beliefs are not the same as fact

So no factual reason to claim it is untrue. Warren is not running left - that is a media mischaracterization and misunderstanding by many. And I believe she will win the important states in the Midwest in spite of your opinion stated as fact.

[Demsrule86]

14. Well stated...hats off...

[betsuni]

19. K&R

[highplainsdem]

21. K&R. Agree completely.

[shanny]

23. nobody ever wonders how we are going to pay for the next "defense" budget

that's #1

#2 is...we sure as hell can do better than "no fundamental change."

[aidbo]

25. Biden 2020! Lower your expectations!

[shanny]

29. lol

[bigtree]

26. Biden

... new sign/slogan:

"No, We Can't?"

Not a particularly inspiring appeal, Peacetrain.

[Demsrule86]

46. Trump won the general doesn't inspire me... and I want to prevent that. I would rather win than be

'inspired'...

[Cha]

57. Actually Biden does Inspire me.. much

more than any other candidate.

His experience and qualifications are very Inspiring and heartwarming!

And, he's a compassionate, courageous, kindhearted, sensitive being.

[Demsrule86]

58. He inspires me too...I meant we can't always look for inspiration and excitement...

which is subjective anyway...we need to field the best candidate and fall in line and vote for said candidate.

[Cha]

55. That's Not what Biden is saying and you

know it.. so much for your attempt to put words in his mouth.

[iamateacher]

27. Thank you!

For this post.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

28. Well, that's certainly inspiring.

[myohmy2]

31. did you...

...work for Volkswagen?

…

[Horizens]

32. Good Post

And if the Dems run on ....

Medicare for All
Free College
Guaranteed Income
College Loan Forgiveness

.... we will not only fail to gain the Presidency but, will also lose the House and insure a Republican senate.

[aidbo]

56. Ensure, not insure.

[redstateblues]

33. Like Freddie Mercury sang "I want it all, and I want it now". Since when should we ever

Have to manage our expectations?

[JoeOtterbein]

36. Please, someone tell me me please why is it better to aim low before you might win...

...an election? It did not work in 2008. Fighting for what is right, first, did.

Please don't be so ready to give up on our vision for America before Nov. 2020!

[Demsrule86]

45. Because the positions you take in a primary can cost you the general...and we simply can't allow

Trump to win. Neither Obama nor Clinton took the positions candidates with the exception of Biden have taken; they were savvy an understood about not ruining your chances in a general...and it would cost us the general should Harris,Warren and the rest win the nomination. I do not include Biden...he can win a general. I would vote for any nominee of course so would you and other Democrats, but we would lose independents and moderates...we would lose the presidency, probably the house and fail to regain the Senate and for what? Policy that has a snowball's chance of being legislated no matter who wins?

[JoeOtterbein]

49. No. You never, ever allow any Repug win in the General. The only reason they do is because we...

...give up too fast and easy.

No, make them fight way before the general and the best time to do that is in the Primary.

Beat Trump and the GOP ASAP.

Please don't give up now!

[Demsrule86]

50. Primaries are often fodder for right wing attacks.

[JoeOtterbein]

51. Tru tat. But why give in now then? Seems to me another reason to be clear about our goals.

Plus Trump is a rapist. (sorry but, I felt a need to add that little known fact for some odd reason)

[Demsrule86]

66. The goals of reparations, decriminalize undocumented crossing, MFA, free college, forgive

all student loans etc.... should not be our goals. Such will cost us the general.

[Ponietz]

38. As long as corporations are people and money is speech

the citizenry and the environment will be expendable—regardless of which candidate we support.
Change that and we live in a brand new world.

[BootinUp]

44. No Duh friend. Nicely stated. Nt

[ancianita]

47. At this point, why not offer examples of what you think we CAN do AND win on.

[Tre45on]

54. Why not?

Most developed nations offer their citizens free healthcare and cheap or free tertiary education.

Working and middle-class Americans need democratic socialism; the world needs a socialist America rather than an empire which dedicates its existence to serving the 0.1%!

[question everything]

60. This, of course, is where Klobuchar stands

when she actually told a student who asked that, no, we cannot offer free four-year college but free public two-year ones.

[customerserviceguy]

61. Thank you

That needed to be said. It seems like every other week, there's a new giveaway announced that will never come to fruition.

Just using executive orders to reverse all of the Orange Menace's EO's will set this country on the right path again.