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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 09:06 AM Jul 2019

Obama and Clinton's bundlers are betting on these 3 candidates


The biggest fundraisers in the Democratic Party have identified early favorites as the 2020 candidates jockey for resources.

By MAGGIE SEVERNS 07/18/2019 05:01 AM EDT

Big-money Democratic donors have jumped off the sidelines of the presidential race, and three candidates are the clear winners of their support: Joe Biden, Pete Buttigieg and Kamala Harris.

Each of those three candidates received more than 220 donations from top fundraisers who helped raise at least $100,000 (and sometimes many multiples more) for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign or at least $50,000 for Barack Obama in 2012, according to a POLITICO analysis of Federal Election Commission data. Members of this group of nearly 2,000 so-called “bundlers” have tapped their personal networks in the past to collectively raise tens of millions of dollars for Democratic campaigns.

But while top Democratic fundraisers donated more money in the second quarter than in the slow first three months of the race, many are no closer to choosing a single candidate: Close to 40 percent of the 810 bundlers who have donated to a 2020 Democrat so far have given to more than one candidate.

And while the Democratic field has largely fought to be the party of small-dollar donors in 2020, Biden, Buttigieg and Harris in particular have hustled for bundler support behind closed doors during the early months of the campaign.

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https://www.politico.com/story/2019/07/18/obama-clinton-rainmakers-2020-1418991
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Obama and Clinton's bundlers are betting on these 3 candidates (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2019 OP
Too bad, they aren't any of my favorites. Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #1
I will take stogy, smart and compassionate in Mayor Pete over any of the them leftofcool Jul 2019 #2
Yes. DavidDvorkin Jul 2019 #5
oh dear... myohmy2 Jul 2019 #3
It is the system we have. leftofcool Jul 2019 #8
Purity doesn't pay the bills. BannonsLiver Jul 2019 #13
Great. progressoid Jul 2019 #4
Especially from Wall Street and the healthcare industrial complex dalton99a Jul 2019 #6
How do you know all the money comes from Wall Street leftofcool Jul 2019 #9
It's not a great look loyalsister Jul 2019 #7
ActBlue is essentially a bundler. George II Jul 2019 #12
Yeah, I remember getting invited to all those private, $2800.00 a plate dinners hosted by ActBlue. progressoid Jul 2019 #14
Thanks for that positive response. George II Jul 2019 #15
Yeah me too. I think they will be wrong again. nt Autumn Jul 2019 #16
Go easy on George. ActBlue did send me a Christmas card when it was a small fundraiser. Blue_true Jul 2019 #26
I hope they are not too disappointed when saljr1 Jul 2019 #10
What's your relationship with the Senator that entitles you to call her "Liz," a name only her DonViejo Jul 2019 #19
You're right...I hope Warren doesn't see that post BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #21
You missed the entire point of my comment but, hey, have fun! TONS of it... DonViejo Jul 2019 #23
So the poster was mimicking Trump in addition to being overly familiar BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #24
Wow! Look at that, another comment right over your head and a strong indication you... DonViejo Jul 2019 #25
Yeah, that would really mix up their game. Blue_true Jul 2019 #27
Interesting. Helps me move those 3 people down even lower on my list. Nanjeanne Jul 2019 #11
Good.. Money is necessary.. I don't Cha Jul 2019 #17
I salute the bunglers BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #18
I like two of these candidates-Biden and Harris Gothmog Jul 2019 #20
Nothing wrong with money if it is a means to an end -- the end of Chump. Princetonian Jul 2019 #22
 

Farmer-Rick

(12,766 posts)
1. Too bad, they aren't any of my favorites.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 09:10 AM
Jul 2019

Too stogey. At least they have 1 woman on the list.

Ha ha, funny misspelling. Damn you spell checker.....I meant to spell stodgy.

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leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
2. I will take stogy, smart and compassionate in Mayor Pete over any of the them
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 09:18 AM
Jul 2019
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myohmy2

(3,723 posts)
3. oh dear...
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 09:44 AM
Jul 2019

"...Biden, Buttigieg and Harris in particular have hustled for bundler support behind closed doors..."

...the more things change, the more they remain the same...

...God Bless America...

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leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
8. It is the system we have.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 10:38 AM
Jul 2019

Democrats have money too ya know? Some of us are millionaires and some do give to really good Democratic candidates. Some hold parties for other good Dems to bundle money. Get over it.

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BannonsLiver

(20,797 posts)
13. Purity doesn't pay the bills.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 11:53 AM
Jul 2019
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progressoid

(53,329 posts)
4. Great.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 10:17 AM
Jul 2019

Nothing get the electorate energized like millionaire bundlers.





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dalton99a

(95,049 posts)
6. Especially from Wall Street and the healthcare industrial complex
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 10:25 AM
Jul 2019

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leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
9. How do you know all the money comes from Wall Street
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 10:39 AM
Jul 2019
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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
7. It's not a great look
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 10:36 AM
Jul 2019

Money in politics is one of our biggest problems. It's a necessary evil to raise a lot of money to win elections - not something to celebrate.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
12. ActBlue is essentially a bundler.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 11:42 AM
Jul 2019
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progressoid

(53,329 posts)
14. Yeah, I remember getting invited to all those private, $2800.00 a plate dinners hosted by ActBlue.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 12:06 PM
Jul 2019
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George II

(67,782 posts)
15. Thanks for that positive response.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:04 PM
Jul 2019
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Autumn

(49,002 posts)
16. Yeah me too. I think they will be wrong again. nt
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:06 PM
Jul 2019
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
26. Go easy on George. ActBlue did send me a Christmas card when it was a small fundraiser.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 09:20 PM
Jul 2019

I guess that I was among the first wave of people donating through the site. I remember being introduced via email to the woman that started the portal, she was fundraising for a candidate who won. I am really, really proud of being somewhere near the start for them, and I am even prouder that Mitch McConnell now fears them.

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saljr1

(288 posts)
10. I hope they are not too disappointed when
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 11:16 AM
Jul 2019

Liz wins the nomination. She has the best plans and a great grassroots campaign across the country, state by state and voter by voter.

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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
19. What's your relationship with the Senator that entitles you to call her "Liz," a name only her
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 03:50 PM
Jul 2019

immediate family and close friends call her?

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BeyondGeography

(41,190 posts)
21. You're right...I hope Warren doesn't see that post
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 04:07 PM
Jul 2019

She would be so PISSED.

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DonViejo

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23. You missed the entire point of my comment but, hey, have fun! TONS of it...
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 04:13 PM
Jul 2019

Why Are Conservatives So Eager to Call Elizabeth Warren “Liz”?

By HEATHER SCHWEDEL

MARCH 21, 2019 11:53 AM

In a tweet about Elizabeth Warren’s entry into the presidential race last month, President Donald Trump referred to the Massachusetts senator with his favored epithet, “Pocahontas.” But he ended his tweet with a more common nickname: “Liz.”




It is fair to assume there was no warm, friendly “Please, call me Liz” moment between Warren and Trump. He seems to have intended “Liz” dismissively, and conservative media has taken his cue. What initially reads as a harmless nickname actually brings up more than a few questions: Can it be a dig to call someone her own name? Does “Liz” lack the gravitas of “Elizabeth”? Is it a nickname Warren herself ever uses? And if it was intended as a slight, what does that mean for the many adult women who do prefer “Liz”?

The Liz/Elizabeth question is one that every Elizabeth must eventually confront (to say nothing of Beth, Lilibet, Betty, Libby, and so on). I consulted several Elizabeths and Lizzes for this article, all of whom had carefully considered opinions on the matter. “I don’t think you should give someone with the name ‘Elizabeth’ a nickname unless they are comfortable with it,” offered Liz Dueweke, who lives in the D.C. area. “It could be very personal to call her ‘Liz,’ like it is when people call me ‘Lizzy.’ ” Elizabeth Weingarten, a stalwart Elizabeth, told me via email that she bristles when anyone tries to “Liz” her: “I think this is inconsiderate, because ‘Liz’ and ‘Elizabeth’ are two very different names, and I don’t go by ‘Liz’ with anyone.”

So far, though, the news outlets that have used “Liz” in their headlines have mostly shared one thing in common. According to a Google News search, the outlets to run “Liz” pieces most recently have included the Daily Caller, the Washington Examiner, PJ Media, and Townhall—all of which are conservative sources. (To be fair, “Liz Warren” use is fairly common on Twitter, across ideological lines.) And then there was the Trump tweet, with “Liz” side by side with “Pocahontas.”

If “Liz” isn’t necessarily a sneer, why do some outlets and figures treat it like one? Why is a nickname a dirty secret? The tone is reminiscent of the glee conservatives took in dressing down Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez as “Sandy” earlier this year. Using a diminutive can be a way of talking down to someone, and when that someone is a woman, the gender component can’t be set aside. “Sandy” and “Liz” become code for “little girl” and all the immaturity and frivolity that implies. “Are they using it to make her seem less … serious? Accomplished?” asked Liz B., comparing “Liz” use to the way “honey” and “sweetie” are employed to condescend.

https://slate.com/human-interest/2019/03/elizabeth-warren-liz-conservative-nickname-sexism.html

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BeyondGeography

(41,190 posts)
24. So the poster was mimicking Trump in addition to being overly familiar
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 04:19 PM
Jul 2019

Wow.

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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
25. Wow! Look at that, another comment right over your head and a strong indication you...
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 04:22 PM
Jul 2019

didn't and couldn't be bothered to read the entire comment. Don't bother responding to this comment, I've placed you where you appropriately belong, on my ignore list

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
27. Yeah, that would really mix up their game.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 09:22 PM
Jul 2019

Warren will do perfectly fine raising small donations.

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Nanjeanne

(6,627 posts)
11. Interesting. Helps me move those 3 people down even lower on my list.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 11:24 AM
Jul 2019

Which is sad to me because I had Harris on my list after Sanders and Warren.

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Cha

(320,270 posts)
17. Good.. Money is necessary.. I don't
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 03:42 PM
Jul 2019

care what the detractors says about Millionaires.

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BeyondGeography

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18. I salute the bunglers
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 03:46 PM
Jul 2019
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Gothmog

(181,437 posts)
20. I like two of these candidates-Biden and Harris
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 03:54 PM
Jul 2019
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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
22. Nothing wrong with money if it is a means to an end -- the end of Chump.
Thu Jul 18, 2019, 04:11 PM
Jul 2019

Chump is raising money hand over fist. The perfect should not be the enemy of the good.

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