It's July, 2019. Prominent Sanders surrogates already at Defcon One. This is bizarre.

[Cha]

Link to tweet

WTH?! "Both parties do it"!!!!!! Good to know what they're talking about in RDM's "circles"

[Cha]

2. This is a BS surrogate in her own words.

[dalton99a]

3. That's insane.

[Cha]

6. I've seen her tweets before

so it's not surprising.. but, it's the first one that I decided to bring on board.

I think it's dangerous misinformation.

[George II]

4. Yeah, wonder what "circles" she hangs out in?

[DURHAM D]

8. Looks like the California nurses dumped her.

See my post below.

[Cha]

10. She says "non political

people". lol

Thanks, George

[Scurrilous]

109. Crop.

While waiting on the mother ship.

[crazytown]

5. Wow

Unbelievable.

[Cha]

15. It's crazy talk but not

so unbelievable coming from RDM if you would have ever seen her tweets before.

All Scorched Earth.. not caring a whit about the GE.

[Kahuna7]

67. She's absolutely nuts. A few months back, before Biden joined...

the campaign, she proposed that all candidates should drop out and support bernie. She was serious.

[Cha]

72. Of course she was.. I

can't even remember what the tweets were about.. only that they were ugly, disingenuous attacks of this current tweet's nature.

I finally decided to expose her tweet.. this is dangerous talk for the GE.. and I don't think too many are going to put up with it.

Link to tweet

This is RoseAnn on trump..

"Head of nurses union 'counting on' Trump for single-payer system"

DeMoro, who serves as executive director of both the Oakland-based National Nurses United and the California Nurses Association, told POLITICO California on Thursday that she is “disgusted” with Democrats like House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and believes that the president-elect may actually get action.

https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2017/01/political-powerful-nurses-union-head-im-counting-on-trump-for-real-health-care-reform-108511

Does she ever have it Wrong.

[DURHAM D]

7. Oh dear -

That is the woman who wasted millions of dollars last time. Looks like the California Nurses finally got wise to her.

RoseAnn DeMoro is the former executive director of National Nurses United and of the California Nurses Association/National Nurses Organizing Committee. She also serves as national vice president and executive board member of the AFL-CIO

[crazytown]

9. Mental health

Someone presenting with these symptoms, saying the Democratic Party wants Trump to be re-elected, would get priority attention.

[Cha]

20. Why would she ever Think this

help her candidate?!

It defies all logic and common sense!

[George II]

11. An article about her here:

https://www.mintpressnews.com/cna-head-roseann-demoro-leave-labor-unions-in-critical-condition/238760/

CNA and Retiring Head RoseAnn DeMoro Leave Labor in Critical Condition

Dubbed by many the nation’s most progressive labor union the CNA in fact provides a case study in how organized labor — the engine for creating the most prosperous working class in the known world — finds itself at death’s door at the exact moment when American workers are in dire need of advocates.

OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA — “C’mon people, what are some more nurses values?”

I was nearly four months into my stint in the communications office at the California Nurses Association, or CNA, when I found myself in a half-lit, mildewed, second-floor conference room in the union’s downtown Oakland office, seated among a clutch of maybe seven or eight other communications staffers, all white with the exception of myself and an Asian woman.

The task this late April afternoon was to identify “nurses’ values,” which I had assumed meant that I would help pore over the results of a nurses’ questionnaire to produce a coherent ad campaign.

Instead, the communications manager, Sarah Cecile, stood astride an easel that leaned like a sprinter at the finish line, her magic marker poised to add to the wan list of nouns that glared accusingly at me, reducing Hegelian dialectical inquiry to a game of charades.

“Wait,” I said, “we’re telling the nurses what their values should be? Shouldn’t we be asking the nurses what their values are — you know, like in a survey, or a poll?”

(more...)

Before anyone questions the source:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/mint-press-news/

?w=700&ssl=1

[crazytown]

12. DeMoro needs professional help

Link to tweet

[Gothmog]

18. Why wouldBiden drop out?

Joe is our most electable candidate

[certainot]

41. maybe she's just drunk

[Cha]

86. ".. elevate other candidates.."

I guess she's not talking about Sanders? But, wait.. isn't he always on tv elevating himself?

And, tearing down others? Like comparing Joe Biden to trump?

How does she know what the M$M is thinking .. and the DNC? SMH

[Cha]

16. Wow! "While she is feted and fawned over by white liberal journalists.."

"Fawning" is exactly right!

Central to this narrative is DeMoro, who announced her retirement in a March 6th tweet and will be leaving the post she has held for 32 years. While she is feted and fawned over by white liberal journalists such as Amy Goodman, Paul Jay, and Bill Moyers, rank-and-file nurses of color and community activists often describe her and the NNU as either loathsome or missing-in-action when it comes to the issues that are important to them

And, now these Scorched Earth tweets all over after he retirement doesn't speak well for RDM at all!

Thank You, George!

[PatrickforO]

44. Wow. That's Organizational Development 101. I preach this quite often.

You want people engaged then they have to at least help to set the values. A decent facilitator can guide, but the people who own the job and the processes must be the ones to set values, and also to generate any kind of improvement.


Funny how this particular union, under this woman's leadership was straight 'theory X.'


I'm a big proponent of unions, but they've got to refresh themselves, or maybe reinvent themselves, or some other re-verb. Because some seem to have leaders quite divorced from the actual needs and interests of rank and file.

[Cha]

14. RDM retired from the Nurses Association...

I've seen other tweets of hers and they all similar to this one.. and do a disservice to her candidate.

California's nurses union loses longtime leader, but not agenda

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/08/californias-nurses-union-loses-longtime-leader-but-not-agenda-390585

She could have been a good advocate for her candidate but she's chosen to go the scorched Earth route that has nothing to do with reality.

[NYMinute]

13. This gives rise to a suspicion

Is Bernie really running to get elected or only to weaken the eventual nominee? If he wanted to get elected, he won't attack the very voters who are likely to elect him. That is common sense. The DNC doesn't control the average Democrat.

Many people have scarier opinions and the word on the street is even worse.

[Skittles]

19. it worked last time, didn't it?

[calimary]

118. Yes. Sure looks like it.

[mcar]

23. Reasonable questions

[Gothmog]

17. It seems that sanders is worried

[betsuni]

21. I wish people would stick to harmless CTs like that the moon landing was fake.

[Cha]

24. Exactly, betsuni. I already

talked about this being a "dangerous" one! that's why it needs to be exposed for the CT it is.

[betsuni]

48. She said about single-payer: "The one I'm counting on the most is Trump."

Obviously she has very good judgement, not gullible at all.

[Cha]

52. "Head of nurses union 'counting on' Trump for single-payer system"

DeMoro, who serves as executive director of both the Oakland-based National Nurses United and the California Nurses Association, told POLITICO California on Thursday that she is “disgusted” with Democrats like House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and believes that the president-elect may actually get action.

https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2017/01/political-powerful-nurses-union-head-im-counting-on-trump-for-real-health-care-reform-108511

Guess who's disgusted with her?

Thanks, betsuni! The More You Know..!

[mcar]

22. Pathetic and predictable

But I didn't expect it this soon.

[Vegas Roller]

25. This shows that it is simply an anger-driven campaign

They don't care about winning - they only care about venting their misdirected anger regardless of consequences.

[Me.]

26. Wait...What?

The DNC & Dems will support deplorable don over BS. Boy, they've really entered that fake reality the don has made for them.

But they needn't worry BS will never be the DEm candidate.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

27. .

Tom Watson’s entire tweet history:

[Cha]

28. You may think that is Soooo Clever, Hassin..

But your Attempt to Deflect from RoseAnne DeMoro's Own words with that meaningless gif will Not work.

[betsuni]

29. So many Kill the Messenger auto-play fails!

[Cha]

33. Yes.. Another auto-Kill the Messenger Falls Flat!

Next? lol

[lapucelle]

108. I overhear third-party-voter sullen snowflakes and angry cupcakes at work, complaining about Trump.

They are as responsible for this presidency as RoseAnn DeMoro. History will hold them in the contempt they deserve.

[Gothmog]

55. This lady is a close friend of sanders

[Cha]

56. Oh yeah.. she was also "..counting on trump for single payer.."

DeMoro, who serves as executive director of both the Oakland-based National Nurses United and the California Nurses Association, told POLITICO California on Thursday that she is “disgusted” with Democrats like House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and believes that the president-elect may actually get action.

https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2017/01/political-powerful-nurses-union-head-im-counting-on-trump-for-real-health-care-reform-108511

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=207296

[Gothmog]

104. Was this lady the head of the only union supporting sanders?

I understand that she is no longer in charge of that union

[Cha]

112. Yes.. she retired in 2018.

[George II]

30. So you think the attacks on the Democratic Party are funny? Noted....

[Cha]

37. Thank You, George! Trying to deflect from

the attacks on the Dem Party being like the Fascists is bizarre!

Nice subtle gif of Joe Biden disagreeing with the Deflection and you know he would.. Mahalo.

[George II]

49. Sometimes I'm disappointed with people.

[sheshe2]

45. So noted...

[ehrnst]

99. ...

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[sheshe2]

31. WTH!?

Gotta ask yourself what circles RoseAnn actually runs in.

[Cha]

34. Yeah, supposedly "..non political people.. "

As betsuni pointed out..

21. I wish people would stick to harmless CTs like that the moon landing was fake.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=207208

Thank you, she..

[sheshe2]

39. "..non political people.. "

[Cha]

42. Yeah, don'tcha know..

there's tons of them running around! and they "know all about the 1%"! Oooops!

[NBachers]

60. I think she's just running in circles of her own.

[Cha]

64. lol..

[SunSeeker]

32. K & R for exposure.

[calimary]

35. Are you f'ing kidding me??? Is this from some Russian troll farm?

I think my ongoing suspicion about this shit from summer of 2016 onward was and still is about Russian meddling.

[Cha]

74. It's from this woman, calimary..

"Head of nurses union 'counting on' Trump for single-payer system"

DeMoro, who serves as executive director of both the Oakland-based National Nurses United and the California Nurses Association, told POLITICO California on Thursday that she is “disgusted” with Democrats like House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and believes that the president-elect may actually get action.

https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2017/01/political-powerful-nurses-union-head-im-counting-on-trump-for-real-health-care-reform-108511

Link to tweet

[calimary]

116. She can't be a legitimate Democrat.

You sure she isn’t also a Russian troll?

[Cha]

117. She's not.. read on here she was

a naderite then a stein pusher.

[SergeStorms]

36. I'd like to see BS condemn this...

but I already know that's not going to happen. Unbelievable.

[radical noodle]

38. I wouldn't expect anything else

She obviously runs in the wrong "circles."

[sheshe2]

40. Wow...

...........they go round and round
And the painted ponies go up and down

...........And go round and round and round
In the circle game

[thesquanderer]

43. Is she really a "Prominent Sanders surrogate"? And who are the others?

(since the headline was surrogates, plural, are doing this kind of thing)

[Cha]

46. Yes, she is..

Here's David Sirota head speech writer for BS..

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=202541#top

[thesquanderer]

92. A photo of the two of them is the evidence that she's a prominent surrogate?

More relevant would be: Is she on his staff? Does she make TV appearances or give press interviews on his behalf? IOW, on what basis would anyone consider her to be a prominent surrogate? That's my question.

[Cha]

94. No, that's not all.. you can believe

it or not.. I don't care.. everyone else I've seen comment on this knows exactly who RoseAnn DeMoro is.

[thesquanderer]

97. I didn't, that's why I asked. Basic research didn't help...

I checked her wikipedia bio to see who she was, no mention of an affiliation with the Sanders campaign.

I googled for any appearance of her name on the Sanders campaign web site, there was only one hit, a quote that was used by an organizer for a local event https://act.berniesanders.com/event/Organizing_Kickoff_Main_Attend/798?

For a "prominent surrogate," she appears to keep an awfully low profile in his campaign.

[thesquanderer]

105. As for the Sirota tweet, I guess the objectionable part is calling it Bidencare?

I mean other than that, it's been an argument between Biden and Sanders about the pros and cons of the different policies, which is fair game, it's not personal attack.

At any rate, Sirota did not call it Bidencare, that was the term used by the author of the article he was quoting. But I'll grant you that it was his choice to tweet the quote.

I'm not sure it's an insult, though. Is it really a personal attack, giving Biden ownership of his plan to keep and tweak Obamacare? Maybe Biden should take the term and run with it, like Obama did.

[Blue_true]

47. Do you expect anything different from people that voted for Stein in 2016 given the threat Trump

was?

[Cha]

50. Not at all. Just want to get it out

there what these jill stein pushers are up to.

We have a Life or Death election to win in 2020.. we don't have time for RoseAnn De Moro's Nonsense.

[applegrove]

51. Bernie woke the country up. That does not guarantee he wins the nomination.

He has to run. Hopefully it will be a race about ideas.

[Vegas Roller]

59. Bernie didn't wake up anyone except

give false hope to some radical extremists whose fantasies he championed and made a lot of gullible people fall.

None of Bernie's slogans is ever going to be a reality.

[silentEcho]

66. Pied piper.

[applegrove]

68. He made Medicare for all mainstream as an idea. A lot of people had

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been talking about it but he shouted it for two years and the country heard. There was a huge shift in how people felt about socialized medicine and how they understood it. Sure Obamacare connected people to better healthcare and less worry about pre-existing conditions. But Bernie did his bit. His words got through to people and he changed hearts as well as minds. I don't agree with many of Bernie's policies. I hate what one of his supporters just posted. Bernie has to stop thinking of himself as entitled to the nomination. If he doesn't that will sink him fast.

[Vegas Roller]

69. ...

A. It is not HIS idea
B. It is not mainstream -- it may be mainstream on DU but elsewhere it is seen like a Harry Potter novel.

The misconceptions are -- 1. Medicare is free, 2. Medicare covers everything, 3. Medicare eliminates the need for insurance. (None of which are true)

on edit:

C. It may like a swell radical idea but if there ever was a suicidal issue in the campaign, MFA is.

[betsuni]

70. Ted Kennedy, 1977: "Health care is a right, not a privilege."

I think of him and others when I think of universal health care. People who don't know anything about politics don't know history.

[Vegas Roller]

71. They also know that

What Ted Kennedy championed and what Hillary Clinton proposed in 1993 was not "Medicare for all" but an ACTUAL SOLUTION that would have covered everything and merged various systems such as VA, Medicare, Indian Health Service, Workers' Comp and accidental injury together.

MFA is just a slogan -- it cannot be implemented without crashing the economy and the entire health care delivery apparatus.

[betsuni]

73. Bernie: "Health care as a human right? 'Oh, Bernie, that's not -- that's un-American. Nobody

in America believes that.'" Taking credit for those who have fought long and hard and accomplished things before you: I take umbrage. I don't know why journalists don't say anything when he makes these claims like that he's the first one to say that universal health care is a right and not a privilege, or the first one to propose a $15 dollar minimum wage. Why are these slogans magical.

[Cha]

76. And, that's what Joe Biden

was saying.. so BS labels him as "sounding like trump.."

Link to tweet

[Cha]

75. Thank You, betsuni.. Very Important Reality

Information on Ted Kennedy!

[betsuni]

79. You're welcome!

I don't care for revisionist history and taking credit for other peoples work.

[Cha]

80. I know.. so much of it going

on.. I think it's filed under: "Say it enough times and people will think it's true".. many actually not knowing any better.

[George II]

91. Universal Health Care has been an idea for decades, it's nothing new....

It's been introduced in the House just about every year going back to the 1940s. It was the the idea behind the ACA, a law that was supposed to ultimately be improved upon to eventually become Universal Health Care.

[ehrnst]

102. Teddy Kennedy brought Single Payer to Nixon in 1971...

Democrats told him to walk away from the table for anything else. So he did.

Nixon proposed a plan that was to the left of the ACA.

It was one of Kennedy's biggest regrets of his career, because he said that if they went with Nixon's plan, we'd be much, much closer to something like the rest of the world had now.

I also think you may have forgotten that the 2018 blue wave was won on preserving the ACA.

[Cha]

87. Thank you.

[ehrnst]

101. Woke the country up to what? (nt)

[Gothmog]

53. From my twitter feed

Link to tweet

[Cha]

54. Excellent Tweet from Joan Walsh,

Goth.. and Hoarse.. Thank You!

Link to tweet

[ecstatic]

57. Can anyone name one normal Bernie surrogate?

Every surrogate I've seen is bizarre / batshit cray. It's very troubling.

[Vegas Roller]

61. +1000 nt

[Kahuna7]

77. I got nothing...

[betsuni]

78. Can't.

Troubling.

[ucrdem]

58. Is that a MAGA hat?

[Vegas Roller]

62. hehehehehe nt

[still_one]

63. This is just another reason why Sanders will not get the nomination. A lot of Democrats are very

tired of his divisive politics, especially those who are no longer Sanders' supporters from 2016

[Cha]

65. Not according to Sanders..

Link to tweet

Mahalo, still_one.

[Clash City Rocker]

82. "Some people say..."

Trump has taught him something. When you want to make a false assertion, don’t attribute it to yourself, or to any specific person (because they may call you on it). Just say that “some people are saying” it. Then you can’t be proven a liar.

[Cha]

83. Some pundit should ask..

Who specifically are these people? and, where did you hear them saying it?

And, then watch them carefully.

Mahalo, Clash City Rocker

[betsuni]

84. Like this:

Sanders: I don't want to see the American people voting for the lesser of two evils. I want the American people to be voting for a vision of economic justice, of environmental justice, of racial justice. That is the campaign we are running, and that's why we are getting the support we are.

Stephanopolous; Is that how you would describe Hillary Clinton against Donald Trump -- as the lesser of two evils?

Sanders: Well if you look -- No, I wouldn't describe it, but that's what the American people are saying.

[Cha]

85. Oh for CRAP SAKE! NO They were NOT.

Jill Stein LIED and said Hillary was WORSE.. her and that Privileged side kick, Susan Sarandon, have trump Blood on their hands.

BS said something similar about why he wanted President Obama primaried in 2012.

Paraphrasing.. ".. Millions of people are disappointed.. .."

I hardly ever do this.. but

I remembering posting.. "Well Millions of People Aren't disappointed, BS".

[betsuni]

88. It's disgusting.

[ehrnst]

103. +1000. Status quo, political establishment trick. (nt)

[brer cat]

81. I would move that comment from bizarre

to bats* cray. Her "circles" must be bubbles of delusion.

[NurseJackie]

89. Well said! And...

I would move that comment from bizarre to bats* cray. Her "circles" must be bubbles of delusion.

Well said! And thank you for putting it so clearly and succinctly.

Truly, truly, bizarre. Just over-the-top absurd.

What do any of these folks hope to accomplish with their hair-on-fire rhetoric?

[Me.]

90. Anying From Nina Lately?

Unusually quiet/

[Cha]

93. The last we heard from

Nina she said ".. Biden Flat Out Lied.. " so since I don't believe a word she says.. I'd have to say she was projecting.

Did read she makes $13,000 a month, though.

[ehrnst]

96. Goodness. That must rankle the field staff....

[Cha]

98. Yeah, and Jeff Weaver, I read, makes

the most of all.

ehrnst

[ehrnst]

100. The house staff as it were.

[Me.]

107. That $156K Must Burn The Staff Looking For $15/per

[Cha]

113. Yeah, it doesn't seem fair,

does it?

[Me.]

115. Price To Be Paid For Duplicity

Is jane cleaning up too?

[ehrnst]

95. Wasn't that nurses union a HUGE $$$ donor that Bernie referred to as a "campaign sponsor?"

[lapucelle]

106. DeMoro is one of the idiots who loudly supported Nader over Al Gore in 2000.

She supported a "movement leader" over the Democrat who would go on to win a Nobel Peace Prize for environmental activism.

DeMoro is one the "purist when it suits me" demagogues who gave us the George W. Bush presidency, the Iraq War, the Roberts Court, the financial collapse, the Citizens United decision, and the gutting of the Voting Rights Act.

One would think that after all that, DeMoro might consider that she should tread more carefully and perhaps talk less and listen more. But no, she did it a second time.

ODD UNION OUT: Following the Working Families Party’s endorsement of Hilary Clinton, there’s still a major leftist union holding out against the Democratic presidential candidate, reports BuzzFeed’s Cora Lewis. The 185,000-member National Nurses United “stands virtually alone,” Lewis writes, though many unions shared its opposition to Clinton during the primaries. “Since the Democratic National Convention, nearly every labor group has fallen in line behind the party’s nominee of choice,” including the CWA and American Postal Workers Union, which initially backed Sanders.

But NNU has always gone its own way. At the DNC, NNU members booed Clinton’s nomination (American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten told Lewis “You could always tell where they were sitting. They made themselves heard.”). One unidentified “high-ranking public union official” told Lewis that NNU Chief RoseAnn DeMoro was a “bomb thrower, not a bridge builder.”

DeMoro rejected that criticism, and said Clinton didn’t deserve the union’s support because the party platform lacked planks advocating Medicare for all, opposing the Trans-Pacific Partnership, or calling for a ban on fracking. But DeMoro left open the possibility that the union would put a Hillary endorsement to a vote.

https://www.politico.com/tipsheets/morning-shift/2016/08/trump-adviser-ditching-a-union-should-be-easier-215954

[Cha]

114. That's for that history on RDM,

Sounds like another privileged one who just gets worse over time.. Susan Sarandon.

Mahalo, lapucelle!

[Gothmog]

111. From my twitter feed

Link to tweet

[Cha]

119. Yeah, RDM is full

of it.

Thanks Goth