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So what's wrong with Steyer? Impressive resume. (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 OP
Nothing. He's been consistently on target Voltaire2 Jul 2019 #1
Why begin at the top? Would it have killed him to start at Senator? We could use more of those. pnwmom Jul 2019 #2
He has no experience in government. Zero. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2019 #3
+1 N/T sellitman Jul 2019 #8
+ 10,000 MBS Jul 2019 #13
THIS Zoonart Jul 2019 #26
Yes, exactly!n/t MBS Jul 2019 #34
In today's bizarre political world, that's probably a plus in getting elected. mtnsnake Jul 2019 #29
Which he would. Only an idiot wouldnt Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #54
no govt experience. run for some lower office first JI7 Jul 2019 #4
You mean like Trump did? watoos Jul 2019 #7
i don't want any of my candidates to do like Trump JI7 Jul 2019 #9
Why would we consider Trump to be a benchmark? TwilightZone Jul 2019 #58
He has been consistently pushing for impeachment, watoos Jul 2019 #5
It's all about evidence of where the person's heart Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #15
Not a thing is wrong with him. I'm liking him. Autumn Jul 2019 #6
I am confused. I thought he was in Congress. roody Jul 2019 #10
No he isn't. Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #16
Nothing. He's a billionaire who walks the walk. Princetonian Jul 2019 #11
Welcome to DU. I see you live in Princeton, NJ. CTyankee Jul 2019 #14
Yes, I went to Princeton. Princetonian Jul 2019 #21
No, but we root for Yale since we live near the Yale Bowl... CTyankee Jul 2019 #23
I'm not about to criticize him--only to point out his efforts & money might best benefit hlthe2b Jul 2019 #12
Know Dipshit HATES his impeachment ads. Why? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #17
Nothing! I think he's great - and a welcome addition to the field! ElementaryPenguin Jul 2019 #18
Yes, just what we need Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #19
Yes...just because trump is a rich (well maybe) white Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #20
Ted Kennedy carried a lot of baggage,Steyer doesn't . virgogal Jul 2019 #27
True. But he came to work every day fighting for Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #50
Kennedy had decades of experience Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #43
Really? Didn't know that. :) Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #51
I'm certainly willing to take a look at him. cwydro Jul 2019 #22
Yes..if anything he will say that on stage!! Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #53
Good point. Get it out there. Impeach the Mf. LakeArenal Jul 2019 #56
His resume is blank loyalsister Jul 2019 #24
I hear ya, but also think the most tremendous factor Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #25
The presidency is a lot more than message loyalsister Jul 2019 #28
Totally agree. But we are in a position now that if Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #33
I don't see it loyalsister Jul 2019 #45
Don't think we have to worry about it anyway Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #46
The problem here is that billionaires think they are qualified for POTUS marylandblue Jul 2019 #30
I think it's more that they can afford to run, rather than they think they are so qualified mtnsnake Jul 2019 #35
Well, sure they can afford to run, they can afford a lot of things. marylandblue Jul 2019 #37
Sure, but let's give him credit for spending huge sums of his own money in lots of the right places, mtnsnake Jul 2019 #39
I already gave him credit for that, and wish he would continue that, marylandblue Jul 2019 #40
Yup, you did. mtnsnake Jul 2019 #42
Maybe he's running because House didn't take Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #47
That could very well be mtnsnake Jul 2019 #57
I like Steyer NYMinute Jul 2019 #31
Feels Ross Perot-ish to me JDC Jul 2019 #32
I'd love for our nominee to get up to a blackboard with chalk & a pointer in the general election mtnsnake Jul 2019 #36
To paraphrase, "that giant sucking sound is your country going down the drain." marylandblue Jul 2019 #38
haha, he'll be forever famous for coining that one. mtnsnake Jul 2019 #41
Lots of people have "impressive"" resumes. It doesn't mean they should be leader of the free world StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #44
Who said the ability to make a lot of money Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #48
Still undecided? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2019 #49
There are only two Democratic candidates I have doubts. gordianot Jul 2019 #52
Vote for the Democratic nominee Joinfortmill Jul 2019 #55
My issue with him. Blue_true Jul 2019 #59
 

Voltaire2

(13,159 posts)
1. Nothing. He's been consistently on target
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 08:53 AM
Jul 2019

advocating against the normalization of fascism.

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pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
2. Why begin at the top? Would it have killed him to start at Senator? We could use more of those.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 08:55 AM
Jul 2019

We seem to have many excellent candidates for President.

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The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,838 posts)
3. He has no experience in government. Zero.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 08:56 AM
Jul 2019

His heart is in the right place but I don't want another rich businessman who has never even run for a seat on a city park board as president.

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MBS

(9,688 posts)
13. + 10,000
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 09:42 AM
Jul 2019

Previous government experience is a requirement for the next president. PERIOD.
We are in a national emergency. We cannot afford the luxury of amateurs.













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Zoonart

(11,878 posts)
26. THIS
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 11:48 AM
Jul 2019

thr presidency is not a bucket list item for billionaires.

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MBS

(9,688 posts)
34. Yes, exactly!n/t
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:08 PM
Jul 2019
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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
29. In today's bizarre political world, that's probably a plus in getting elected.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:00 PM
Jul 2019

It probably won't happen, but if it turns out that he was nominated, then the main thing is that he would need to surround himself with experienced people.

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
54. Which he would. Only an idiot wouldnt
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 04:08 PM
Jul 2019
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JI7

(89,264 posts)
4. no govt experience. run for some lower office first
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 09:01 AM
Jul 2019
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watoos

(7,142 posts)
7. You mean like Trump did?
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 09:07 AM
Jul 2019
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JI7

(89,264 posts)
9. i don't want any of my candidates to do like Trump
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 09:09 AM
Jul 2019

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TwilightZone

(25,479 posts)
58. Why would we consider Trump to be a benchmark?
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 09:00 PM
Jul 2019

That would be rather misguided.

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watoos

(7,142 posts)
5. He has been consistently pushing for impeachment,
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 09:05 AM
Jul 2019

too bad more Dems aren't.

"I like that he is so good against trump." Honestly IMO, that's almost all that matters to me. We need a candidate who is tough as nails to take on Trump. Steyer is tough as nails but I'm curious how he would do in a debate?

Warren, Harris, mayor Pete, and Biden came out of the gate swinging. Honestly, I understand that Dems need to have a platform but the M$M is complicit with the reich, it will push for a mud slinging blood bath and we need a candidate who can win a cage match.

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. It's all about evidence of where the person's heart
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:03 AM
Jul 2019

Is and do they have to capacity to learn and the savvy and intellect to beat Trump. I think any of us here could have risen to the occasion and learned how government worked and sought out true experts. Trump did not because he is rotten from the git go.

That said, whoever we end up with, must be able to repair our institutions ASAP.

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Autumn

(45,120 posts)
6. Not a thing is wrong with him. I'm liking him.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 09:05 AM
Jul 2019
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roody

(10,849 posts)
10. I am confused. I thought he was in Congress.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 09:13 AM
Jul 2019
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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
11. Nothing. He's a billionaire who walks the walk.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 09:18 AM
Jul 2019

I like him immensely.

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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
14. Welcome to DU. I see you live in Princeton, NJ.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 09:52 AM
Jul 2019

Wondering if you went to Princeton. I often post on Ivy League stuff, living in New Haven, but mostly mix it up with those guys in Cambridge.

Glad you're here!

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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
21. Yes, I went to Princeton.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:33 AM
Jul 2019

Thank you for the kind welcome. Did you go to Yale?

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CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
23. No, but we root for Yale since we live near the Yale Bowl...
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:40 AM
Jul 2019

great tailgate parties and we have great friends who are Yalies or related to Yalies.

My ex husband went to the Cambridge place and I used to never hear the end of it....

I don't know any Princetonians but I think it is distinguished to have Michelle Obama as an alum!
Well, then...go Tigers!

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hlthe2b

(102,360 posts)
12. I'm not about to criticize him--only to point out his efforts & money might best benefit
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 09:37 AM
Jul 2019

his cause outside the Presidency and personally that is where I'd like him to focus.

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. Know Dipshit HATES his impeachment ads. Why?
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:06 AM
Jul 2019

Because someone told him it was very bad and only two presidents have been impeached.

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ElementaryPenguin

(7,800 posts)
18. Nothing! I think he's great - and a welcome addition to the field!
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:06 AM
Jul 2019

I think he would destroy Trump!!

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Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
19. Yes, just what we need
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:08 AM
Jul 2019

another white millionaire with no experience in government.

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. Yes...just because trump is a rich (well maybe) white
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:18 AM
Jul 2019

crook... every rich white man is bad. Like Ted Kennedy was.

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virgogal

(10,178 posts)
27. Ted Kennedy carried a lot of baggage,Steyer doesn't .
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 11:49 AM
Jul 2019
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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
50. True. But he came to work every day fighting for
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 03:41 PM
Jul 2019

The little guy when he could have just sailed on a yacht

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Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
43. Kennedy had decades of experience
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 01:01 PM
Jul 2019

Before he ran for president.

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
51. Really? Didn't know that. :)
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 03:42 PM
Jul 2019
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cwydro

(51,308 posts)
22. I'm certainly willing to take a look at him.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 10:34 AM
Jul 2019

I applaud his belief that impeachment is needed.

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
53. Yes..if anything he will say that on stage!!
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 04:07 PM
Jul 2019
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LakeArenal

(28,845 posts)
56. Good point. Get it out there. Impeach the Mf.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 04:12 PM
Jul 2019
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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
24. His resume is blank
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 11:23 AM
Jul 2019

He may be technically qualified and have an impressive professional history, but he has zero experience in federal or even city government.
I have hoped that if there were anything good to come out of Trump's presidency it would be to finally disabuse voters of the notion that skills in business naturally translate to a potential to run the country well.
It takes a lot more than having opinions I support for me to see someone as presidential. I am hoping his lack of support indicates that people reject the model of celebrity and wealth as resume bullet points for presidential candidacy.

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
25. I hear ya, but also think the most tremendous factor
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 11:41 AM
Jul 2019

Was that we got stuck with someone who doesn't read, listen, or learn. And add in the sheer rottenness. Steyer has the ability to synthesize large amounts of data to boil down to cogent message.

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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
28. The presidency is a lot more than message
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 11:52 AM
Jul 2019

In fact, good ones hire people to do that while they focus on policies and the potential consequences of the decisions they will make.

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
33. Totally agree. But we are in a position now that if
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:07 PM
Jul 2019

We don't first find someone who can beat him and if Congress can't protect the vote it is ALL moot.

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loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
45. I don't see it
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 02:33 PM
Jul 2019

That's the same argument someone used in favor of Oprah for the nomination. I fail to see the value of winning if it results in solidifying a standard of celebrity/millionaire presidents who have no government experience. I firmly believe that presidents should have a relevant resume.
He and Trump both support term limits which says something about how poorly informed they both are about government.

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
46. Don't think we have to worry about it anyway
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 03:19 PM
Jul 2019

Steyer won't win. Hopefully he'll add at least some criticism of trump. I don't think it matters who we put up as long as they can beat trump. In a normal time, wouldn't say that. So far, unless things change, Biden is the one who wins the most over Dipshit in matchups. Every slam if him maximizes our chance of losing to trump. Why so many are running instead of rallying to get rid of the devil is very short-sighted.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
30. The problem here is that billionaires think they are qualified for POTUS
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:03 PM
Jul 2019

Simply because they are billionaires. I can appreciate Steyer spending his money for worthy causes without believing that a field of 20+ worthy candidates needs a billionaire to round out the field.

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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
35. I think it's more that they can afford to run, rather than they think they are so qualified
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:09 PM
Jul 2019

If in the end it turns out he is best equipped to beat the Asshole in Office, then I'll be right with him.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
37. Well, sure they can afford to run, they can afford a lot of things.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:19 PM
Jul 2019

I don't approve of $200 million yachts either. There is something deeply wrong with this country where some people have enormous sums of money to blow on vanity projects. Even worse is that large numbers of people have actually voted for one billionaire vanity project, which just seems to be encourage more of them. I was happier when they only competed with each other for the world's biggest yacht.

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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
39. Sure, but let's give him credit for spending huge sums of his own money in lots of the right places,
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:21 PM
Jul 2019

too.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
40. I already gave him credit for that, and wish he would continue that,
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:25 PM
Jul 2019

Rather than spend that money on running for President in an already crowded field.

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
47. Maybe he's running because House didn't take
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 03:21 PM
Jul 2019

The ball and run with it on impeachment.

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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
57. That could very well be
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 04:22 PM
Jul 2019

Good point.

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
31. I like Steyer
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:05 PM
Jul 2019

for Secretary of the Treasury under Biden

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JDC

(10,133 posts)
32. Feels Ross Perot-ish to me
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:05 PM
Jul 2019
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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
36. I'd love for our nominee to get up to a blackboard with chalk & a pointer in the general election
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:17 PM
Jul 2019

just like what Perot did when he explained things in clear enough terms so even the most simple minded voters could understand the points he was making. He really did know how to dumb things down, and his method was effective.

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marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
38. To paraphrase, "that giant sucking sound is your country going down the drain."
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:20 PM
Jul 2019
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mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
41. haha, he'll be forever famous for coining that one.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 12:25 PM
Jul 2019
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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
44. Lots of people have "impressive"" resumes. It doesn't mean they should be leader of the free world
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 02:16 PM
Jul 2019

And giving half their money to charity also doesn't a president make.

I'm pretty sick of the notion that the ability to make lots of money somehow translates into being qualified to be a political leaders, much less president of the United States.

Having we learned by now that having a lot of money is not a qualification for political office?

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
48. Who said the ability to make a lot of money
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 03:31 PM
Jul 2019

Translates to being worthy of the presidency? Other than some thinking that about trump.

A billionaire who gives 1/2 their earnings to charity is definitely a clue that they are a kind and generous person. I think it's a fantastic quality for a president.

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gordianot

(15,245 posts)
52. There are only two Democratic candidates I have doubts.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 03:59 PM
Jul 2019

They are at 1% so I am not too worried. Even at that highly unlikely event they beat Trump.

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Joinfortmill

(14,456 posts)
55. Vote for the Democratic nominee
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 04:10 PM
Jul 2019

I'll say one thing, he's been out there beating the impeachment drum since the beginning. That should count for something.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
59. My issue with him.
Sun Jul 21, 2019, 09:45 PM
Jul 2019

He is big on clean energy and the environment, but when it comes to him using his vast fortune to fund startup companies that can develop solutions in both areas, as far as I know, he has done nothing. His approach has been to try to force change by funding pro-clean energy and environmentalist candidate, that is ok but with the Courts stacked against pro-environment change, I don't see the political solution going far. Courts cannot stop a radical new clean energy invention, if they tried they would get run over.

My belief is that innovation and development of effective and cost efficient new technologies will get us to where we want to be faster than the exclusively political route.

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