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Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:27 PM

 

BS Disses Dems at Debate..

"I get a little bit tired of Democrats afraid of big ideas," Sanders began. "Republicans are not afraid of big ideas. They could give a trillion dollars in tax breaks to billionaires and profitable corporations."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-debate-2019-live-updates-night-debates-underway/story?id=64629808

Has he read the DNC Platform and has he bothered to hear what the other 2020 Candidates are proposing!? Did he forget about the ACA that Passed! And, the Fascists have been trying for years to Delete from History?!

No one is "afraid", BS.. those are just your insulting words. So not impressed.


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comradebillyboy Jul 2019 #4
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comradebillyboy Jul 2019 #54
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True Blue American Jul 2019 #104
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Gothmog Jul 2019 #73
Cha Jul 2019 #93
George II Jul 2019 #97
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lapucelle Jul 2019 #7
leftieNanner Jul 2019 #11
we can do it Jul 2019 #30
Cha Jul 2019 #57
silentEcho Jul 2019 #67
cab67 Jul 2019 #77
lapucelle Jul 2019 #10
Cha Jul 2019 #14
lapucelle Jul 2019 #21
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sheshe2 Jul 2019 #34
radical noodle Jul 2019 #12
SergeStorms Jul 2019 #78
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we can do it Jul 2019 #31
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lapucelle Jul 2019 #33
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:29 PM

1. KICK!

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:30 PM

2. Agree

 

BS is not my choice this time.
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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:36 PM

8. Mahalo, leftieNanner!

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:31 PM

3. I for one will be happy to see him back in the senate

 

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:38 PM

9. It will be grand, thekaspervote!

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:32 PM

4. I get a little bit tired of Bernie bashing Democrats and the Democratic

 

Party.
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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:49 PM

17. Exactly what I was thinking, comradebillyboy!

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #17)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:38 PM

54. Always nice to hear from you Cha.

 

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #54)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 03:42 PM

109. U2!

 

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Response to Cha (Reply #17)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:13 AM

104. Or this.

 

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:28 PM

72. I am tired of sanders bashing real democrats

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:33 PM

5. Me too. He said that after hearing 5 big ideas. He's not listening to the others.

 

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Response to flying_wahini (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:30 PM

74. The only voice he hears is his own, which is too bad

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:33 PM

6. I saw that, he violated "The Pledge" at a DNC debate! I'm tired of those who bash Democrats.

 

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Response to George II (Reply #6)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:30 PM

73. sanders has violated the pledge repeatedly

 

sandersí pledge is not to be trusted
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Response to George II (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:09 AM

93. What a soundbyte..

 

for repubs!

"I get a little bit tired of Democrats afraid of big ideas," Sanders began. "Republicans are not afraid of big ideas. They could give a trillion dollars in tax breaks to billionaires and profitable corporations."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-debate-2019-live-updates-night-debates-underway/story?id=64629808
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Response to Cha (Reply #93)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:55 AM

97. I was so shocked by the first part that I didn't even register that second part....

 

....that just doubled down on the first half.

Bashing the Democrats and praising the republicans. Unbelievable!
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Response to George II (Reply #97)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:41 PM

108. Where was he when..

 

ACA was passed, DADA was overturned, Gay marriage was implemented, Dems Keep Fighting for Roe, improved the quality of air and water and kids lunches. Oh. And put a man on the moon!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:34 PM

7. Isn't he a Democrat now? N/T

 

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:38 PM

11. Nope

 

He will always have an I after his name.
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:04 PM

30. Never was never will be. Sick of BS

 

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Response to we can do it (Reply #30)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:46 PM

57. +1!

 

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:16 PM

67. No

 

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:40 PM

77. only when he's running for president.

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:38 PM

10. I can't believe he said that at the Democratic debate.

 

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:42 PM

14. I know, lapucelle.. I was

 

shaking with fury when I read that.
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Response to Cha (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:53 PM

21. "I get a little bit tired of Democrats afraid of big ideas. Republicans are not afraid of big ideas"

 

That's a great soundbite for the Republicans in the GE.
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #21)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:00 PM

28. Really! What was he thinking?!

 

Thank You!
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #21)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:07 PM

34. I was SMDH.

 

He not only trashed Democrats by calling them fearful of big ideas ...He praised Republicans for embracing big ideas. UFB!
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:40 PM

12. He's wrong anyway

 

Republicans ARE afraid of big ideas... they just want to keep us mired in the past.
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Response to radical noodle (Reply #12)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:43 PM

78. That doesn't fit the BS narrative.

 

He only likes to bash democrats. He's not going to get the democratic nomination, but I'd bet he runs as an independent in 2020, ensuring that Trump gets another four years and finishes destroying the U.S. That's just who BS is.
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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #78)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:19 AM

83. That's my fear

 

although he doesn't have to run as an independent to screw things up (as we all learned in another time).
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:40 PM

13. he has been in office for decades, why didn't he do anything

 

to get his so called big ideas passed.
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Response to JI7 (Reply #13)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:58 PM

25. He did name two post offices

 

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Response to Vegas Roller (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:32 PM

75. I was about to mentioned this

 

sanders has no legislative accomplishments in the real world
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Response to JI7 (Reply #13)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:57 PM

107. .

 

https://www.democraticunderground.com/12511841756
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:43 PM

15. Republicans 'are not afraid of big ideas' because they don't fucking have any! nt

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:48 PM

16. I got so sick of his shouting

 

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Response to mcar (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:55 PM

23. This!

 

And also constantly trying to talk over everyone.
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Response to mcar (Reply #16)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:04 PM

31. And finger wagging

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:49 PM

18. I am not any fan of Sanders but the context is important...

 

I feel the need to add context. Tapper and Bash repeatedly set up Ryan, Bullock, and especially Delaney to attack Sanders and Warren with Republican talking points on topics like raising middle class taxes for healthcare and giving healthcare and free college to undocumented immigrants and the green new deal. Sanders was responding to those attacks from the "center" which were actually from the right. When he said "Democrats afraid of big ideas" he was referring to those individuals on stage. That was my impression.
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #18)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:52 PM

19. +1 nt

 

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #18)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:59 PM

26. So BS wasn't calling all Dems

 

"afraid of big ideas"? Just the ones on stage?

Because there are a lot of Dems who do Not want his "big idea" of M4all. And, they're not "afraid". They want something that will help all people without getting rid of ACA.

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Response to Cha (Reply #26)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:03 PM

29. Well we can disagree on medicare for all

 

... but if you watched the debate I think you would agree there were at least 2 or 3 democrats on the stage who made their entire case based on opposition to "big ideas" on almost every topic.
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:10 PM

37. Well if you are talking about Delaney that is true.

 

However Delaney's, bs does not all Democrats make.
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

46. I just hope this doesn't make it into an ad for the Fascists..

 

"I get a little bit tired of Democrats afraid of big ideas," Sanders began. "Republicans are not afraid of big ideas"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=217413

Which repubs are afraid of Big Ideas.. they want to live in the past.. in the draconian age.
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:37 PM

52. Correct

 

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #18)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:06 PM

33. Then why did he say "Democrats"? We didn't he say "Our party is known for big ideas

 

like The New Deal, the Space Program, the Voting Rights Act, The Great Society, Medicare, and the Affordable Care Act"?

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #33)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:08 PM

35. I felt like he was calling them out

 

...for being democrats who were not acting like democrats... I don't know. I'm still so pissed at Bernie over 2016 I doubt I'll ever let it go... but I felt like he was passionate and genuine tonight.
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #35)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:11 PM

38. He said nothing new tonight. nt

 

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #38)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:15 PM

42. I get it

 

I mean whats he going to say new? And he's pretty much a broken record in a lot of cases... but when Jake Tapper is talking about raising taxes and Dana Bash is talking about border decriminalization... framing the debate for the right... Bernie's righteous indignation was warranted thats all I'm saying.
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #42)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:37 PM

53. There is nothing righteous about indignation at debate moderators for asking tough questions

 

that voters want answered.

Righteous indignation is typically a reactive emotion of anger over mistreatment, insult, or malice of another. It is akin to what is called the sense of injustice.
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #53)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:45 PM

56. baloney

 

Tough questions that voters want answered? Is that how you would characterize what Jake Tapper was doing tonight? I would call it sensationalizing politics in order to make it sport and provoke candidates to make soundbites. Do you think most voters want to know if undocumented immigrants should get healthcare? Is that what is somehow central to that debate? Come on.
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #56)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:27 PM

70. Middle class voters want to know whether programs will be funded with middle class tax hikes.

 

That is tough (but obvious) question that the candidates should have been prepared for.
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #70)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:51 PM

79. Of course we need to know this.

 



We have questions that need to be answered not a brush off. Indignant that they were asked.
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #35)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:14 PM

41. He said "Democrats". He didn't say "some Democrats". He didn't say "John Delaney and Tim Ryan".

 

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He said:

"I get a little bit tired of Democrats afraid of big ideas. Republicans are not afraid of big ideas."

He was talking about the parties.
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #41)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:18 PM

44. I don't think thats what he said

 

I need to rewatch I guess. If thats what he said then I take back my defense.
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #44)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:25 PM

48. It's a direct quote at 9:33 on the ABC News live updates in the OP link. N/T

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/democratic-debate-2019-live-updates-night-debates-underway/story?id=64629808
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #48)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:30 PM

50. You added "are"

 

That implies an essential quality that rather changes the meaning of the statement.
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #50)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:57 PM

59. Not in my original headlline: "I get a little bit tired of Democrats afraid of big ideas.

 

Republicans are not afraid of big ideas."

So your argument is that BS only meant that some Democrats are afraid of big ideas, but because BS added "are" when he mentioned Republicans, he was actually saying that "not being afraid of big ideas" is an essential quality of Republicans?



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Response to lapucelle (Reply #59)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:03 PM

61. Well

 

Democrats, afraid of big ideas...
Democrats ARE afraid of big ideas...

mean different things... or they can depending on context. As I originally responded I felt the context in this case was that Bernie was responding to specific democrats on that stage.

Maybe he still shouldn't have said it. Whatever, I can't believe I spent an hour defending Bernie fucking Sanders... but I still feel like if I have to pick a candidate from that stage tonight he would be in my top 5 but that isn't saying much I suppose given the bottom half.
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #61)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:12 PM

63. Yet he still found somethong nice to say about Republicans in general as opposed to Democrats.

 

He shouldn't have said it.

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #63)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:45 AM

87. Darn Straight! Yeah, like you say.. Horrible soundbyte for the repubs..

 

Or something like that!

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #41)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:57 AM

105. Epublicans do not have

 

Any big ideas,except tax cuts and killing regulations that keep us safe.

We all knew know big ideas seldom happen.

The last one was the ACA and it killed Democrats until people found out Republicans were hell bent on taking it away!
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Response to lapucelle (Reply #33)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:14 PM

40. Thank You, lapucelle.. That would be putting

 

a positive look on the Democratic Party!
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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #18)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:51 AM

98. If the choice is between being woke and winning, I want to win

 




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Response to Gothmog (Reply #98)

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 01:38 AM

110. Thanks.. First BEAT trump then

 

go about getting things DONE!

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:52 PM

20. Big ideas, small ideas.

 

Any ideas that work would be nice.

B.S. in so many ways.
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:53 PM

22. Right. If you are "tired" of the Demcorats, why, then are you running as one

 

without the decency of being one?
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:56 PM

24. Not shocking at all

 

He doesn't care about the Democratic party. He is a classic "user" like a guest who insists on sleeping in the master bedroom and then complains about the mattress, pillows and food.
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Response to Vegas Roller (Reply #24)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:22 PM

45. Nice.

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:59 PM

27. This is my problem with Sanders in a nutshell!!!

 

If he's going to be so holier than thou, then just back away. Start your own party!
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:05 PM

32. This:

 

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Response to Ponietz (Reply #32)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:09 PM

36. That twitterfeed isn't

 

happy with him, either.

Thank You!
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:14 PM

39. This is what the world calls

 

a "snake."
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:16 PM

43. What about Williamson, Ryan, and Delaney who dissed Dems? Why nothing about them?

 

At least Sanders is telling the truth, and by telling the truth, maybe Dems will listen and learn to be as tough as he is when it comes to taking on the establishment.
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Response to mtnsnake (Reply #43)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:25 PM

47. No, he isn't. And, I'll post what

 

I want to post.

You can post about who you want to.
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Response to Cha (Reply #47)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:11 PM

62. Didn't Warren say,

 

why are Democrats on this stage using Republican talking points when discussing Medicare for All?

It was a debate, it can get heated.

IMO, the debate was set up to bring down Bernie and Warren.

I mean the moderator asked the panel, are Bernies's ideas too radical to beat Trump? Who else got attacked like that?
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Response to mtnsnake (Reply #43)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:28 PM

49. You were here...

 

4 years ago. Do you think he helped get our Democratic candidate elected?
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:31 PM

51. Sanders is not a Democrat. Running in a Democratic primary.

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:41 PM

55. I didn't find what Bernie said insulting.

 

I found that he was well-informed and very capable of making his points clear.
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Response to maryallen (Reply #55)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:55 AM

99. If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:51 PM

58. I'm so over him

 

2016 was a different thing. We have much better candidates now and he can't stand the limelight being on others instead of him. The great divider of course.
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:59 PM

60. Kick! nt

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:14 PM

64. He Said Republicans have Big Ideas. no, THey have HATEFUL bigoted shitty ideas

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:14 PM

65. This is why i said DNC shld not have allowed him to run on Dem ticket

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:26 PM

68. Kick

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:27 PM

69. I get what Bernie is saying. He is not complimenting GOP ideas just their willingness to go for it.

 

For example, how many times do people here complain about Congressional Democrats not going for impeachment? You know if the shoe was on the other foot Republicans would have gone to impeachment a long time ago.

Democrats are far more individualistic and independent ("herding cats")and pragmatic so Bernie's lament is not going to ever happen. Without control of the House and Senate, nothing will happen with any progressive legislation.
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:27 PM

71. If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:38 PM

76. what I heard...

 

...Bernie saying was republicans are willing to roll the dice on big shit they want while us Dems are all too often busy taking the high road, keeping our powder dry, playing our vest close to our cards...

...and I think many would agree that's the truth...

...I do...

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Response to myohmy2 (Reply #76)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:08 AM

81. Zippitty do da.

 

Fact is we KNOW that the Russians have infiltrated the Republican party... Top down. Of course they can roll the dice as they please. Putin has their back. The Mueller report made it clear the others that were helped to take out our true President.

myohmy2

76. what I heard...

...Bernie saying was republicans are willing to roll the dice on big shit they want while us Dems are all too often busy taking the high road, keeping our powder dry, playing our vest close to our cards...

...and I think many would agree that's the truth...

...I do...


I would prefer our Democrats take the high road over a foreign enemy. I am sure you do too. They are actually doing something about it. The investigations are real.
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:56 PM

80. Ever see a prime example of obfuscation?

 

This could be it
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:17 AM

82. This is banishment bait! Lol.

 

Because I feel constrained in giving my full opinion.
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:21 AM

84. Biden won tonight

 


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Response to Cha (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:33 AM

85. Pukes have big ideas? Like that can occur when the party suffers from INTELLECTUAL ROT. nt

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:44 AM

86. Sanders says his plan includes transition for coal workers and others in the industry to

 

green-oriented economy jobs.

If Hillary Clinton were president, that would be happening. It was a big important issue for her:

"When I launched my campaign for President in June 2015, I specifically mentioned Coal Country and the need to help distressed communities make the transition to a more sustainable economic future. It was a call I'd repeat in nearly every speech I gave, all over the country. I also got to work developing the detailed plan to invest $30 billion in revitalizing coal communities that I mentioned earlier. Consulting with national experts and local leaders, my team came up with great ideas for new incentives to attract jobs and industries to Apppalachia, improving infrastructure and broadband internet, training programs that would lead to real jobs instead of worthless certificates, and more support for schools and students. We also worked with the United Mine Workers of America union on steps to hold the coal companies accountable and guarantee health care and a secure retirement for miners and their families. ... In the end, Peabody Energy, one of the biggest coal companies, agreed to extend benefits for more than twelve thousand retired miners and their families. If I had won the election, I would have used the full power of the federal government to do even more."

Important point she makes: "Being part of a union is an important part of someone's personal identity. It helps shape the way you view the world and think about politics. When that's gone, it means a lot of people stop identifying primarily as workers -- and voting accordingly -- and start identifying and voting more as white, male, rural, or all of the above."

Makes my blood boil when Democrats are accused of ignoring the working class and hating unions. Talking points that help Republicans destroy America.
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Response to betsuni (Reply #86)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:57 AM

88. Thank You so much for Pointing Out this Important

 

History of the Dem Party, betsuni!

Specifically Hillary's Plans and Issues!

I'm right there with you.

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Response to Cha (Reply #88)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:55 AM

91. It was such an important issue for her, but she said people wanted anger, not plans.

 

I think this time people are tired of angry shouting and ready for plans.
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Response to betsuni (Reply #91)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:59 AM

92. Yes.. definitely.. they see where

 

the "anger" got them.

I saw one tweet.. said Warren differentiated herself from BS by being Presidential.. he was just "angry".
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Response to Cha (Reply #92)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:31 AM

96. I have no idea what he means when he says he going to "take on" the fossil fuel industry.

 

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Response to betsuni (Reply #86)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:27 AM

89. +1000

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 01:43 AM

90. Bitterness does not become him. He is still not over 2016. NT

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:45 AM

94. All I know is this person hired people to high position in his campaign who hated Hillary, and

 

still do.

Some of those same people not only voted for Jill Stein, but encouraged others to do likewise in the general election.

Why would I trust anything that this candidate says when he does something like that?





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Response to still_one (Reply #94)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:23 AM

95. +1

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:55 AM

100. In my Wisconsin primary I will only vote for a Democrat.

 

Clearly, from his own mouth, Sanders does not consider himself a Democrat but he is not above using the party to seek the presidency.
Well even though the BoBs may pout again and withhold their votes in the general, I am sure the Democratic Party is too smart to nominate Sanders and there are plenty of other choices.
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 08:56 AM

101. 'Joe Biden Won This Debate'

 

I agree with this analysis https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/07/31/dem-debate-gop-strategists-roundup-227491?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Joe Biden won this debate. The candidates on stage really went after each other tonight and in ways that highlighted how extreme some of their views are. The moderates on stage, who have no chance of winning, spent their time highlighting how far left and unelectable Warren and Sanders are. They were doing Bidenís work for him and he didnít even get his hands dirty.
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:01 AM

102. I'm sick of these BS lies and smears against Democrats! And I'm not the only one who feels this way.

 

Has he read the DNC Platform and has he bothered to hear what the other 2020 Candidates are proposing!? Did he forget about the ACA that Passed! And, the Fascists have been trying for years to Delete from History?!
Exactly right.
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Response to Cha (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:01 AM

103. K&R

 

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Response to Cha (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 12:41 PM

106. No surprise here.

 

I got so tired of the finger pointing, yelling etc. He looked like an old uncle yelling at kids to get off his porch.
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