Medicare for All : Here comes the scare campaign.

[crazytown]

IMO it is better that candidates to deal with GOP/Insurance opposition to Medicare for All sooner rather than later.

[stonecutter357]

1. How are you going to pay for Medicare for All ?

[crazytown]

3. I personally don't favor M4A

but it is VP Biden's job to take Warren down on health care, not mine. We will see if he's up to the job in more ways than one.

[Moostache]

2. And this is how you counter the fear mongering...

Counter ads that point out the sheer amount of PROFIT extracted from healthcare DELIVERY by the private insurance cabal. Put the numbers on screen for the compensation of the top 10 paid executives and lobbyists in the industry and then propose they compete with a non-profit public option and may the best provider, with the most care for the least cost extracted from care to profits WIN...

-Put the truth to the lie - eliminating employer-provided insurance CAN lead to more money to employees in direct compensation instead of via 'benefits' (which if you have them, have been getting to be a rather large percentage of one's total pay over the last 20 years). Elizabeth Warren is right - we need to talk about how much healthcare COSTS not how much taxes are to cover it. The current system, even for those WITH COVERAGE, is not what it could or should be...

Let them lie, but counter the lies with the truth....those ads? That is simply MORE insurance money NOT providing care...

[IronLionZion]

10. Most profit is extracted from health care providers

like for profit hospital corporations. That's a big part of the opposition to health care reform since they don't want Medicare to have bargaining power to lower payments for routine services. Drug prices and medical supplies are another big part of the problem. There's a whole health care industrial complex making billions (maybe trillions) by keeping the status quo.

[brewens]

22. They need to tell us what happens to all the money employers pay for health care. So far

it's like they just get off the hook and MFA is paid for totally by a huge tax increase on workers. If workers will automatically see the bucks their employer used to pay for their insurance in their paychecks, they might feel they could afford to pay extra in taxes for their medical care.

[elocs]

4. Promises are easy, but in reality, HOW do you get Medicare for All made a law?

Because until somebody shows a realistic plan of how Medicare for All will be passed into law,
it's just talk.

[crazytown]

5. How did they get the Voting Rights Act, 1965 passed?

The opposition was enormous.

[empedocles]

9. There is no LBJ on the horizon - and has not been for 50 years

LBJ is the only one who could pass all the legislation he got passed, then, or at any time since.

[crazytown]

13. There's always an excuse.

you could say there was no Mitch McConnell around in 1965. There was more to passing Voting Rights than LBJ.

[IronLionZion]

14. Even that was a compromise

since he wanted national health insurance for everyone but had to settle for just elderly and medicaid for poor.

[empedocles]

19. ' . . . had to settle for just . . . ' . . .

. . . just Medicare, Medicaid, Civil Rights Act

[IronLionZion]

21. Democrats these days settle for much less

they don't make Democrats like they used to.

[crazytown]

23. Medicare / Medicaid were JFK's policy.

LBJ co-opted the late President's memory to push through those policies.

[highplainsdem]

15. Democrats controlled 2/3 of both the House and the Senate. And LBJ was a past master at

getting legislation passed.


Editing to add a link to a Wikipedia page showing how much power Democrats have:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/89th_United_States_Congress

[crazytown]

20. Democrats, including the likes of Jim Eastland,

who holds the record for the the longest filibuster to this day. It was not Republicans who lead the fight against Civil Rights.

[HerbChestnut]

8. Never thought I'd be posting this here, but...

[Autumn]

17. Patience and courage. Thanks for posting that. When that would come on I would have

an earworm the rest of the day. Maybe it would help if it were still on TV.

[Autumn]

6. Here comes the scare campaign? It's been here for a while now. The About One Nation

is very revealing as are some of its policies. Like Dollar for Dollar Deficit Reduction, I quit reading there. The Leadership Team? Fascinating also, reads like a what's what. From their bios:

By appointment of President George W. Bush, Executive Director and Chief Operating Officer of the National Republican Congressional Committee, another Executive Director and Chief Operating Officer of the National Republican Congressional Committee, deputy secretary of the U.S. Department of Labor under President George W. Bush, the manager of Senator Mitch McConnell’s first reelection campaign in 1990, and served as McConnell’s chief of staff from 1991 to 1997.

Yes, they would be the ones to lead the scare team when Democrats are discussing policy to help Americans. Fuck them and their talking points.

[crazytown]

7. I posted this as an example.

There's nothing new here.

[Autumn]

11. I know you did. Nothing new and the same old recycled Republican assholes pushing it. nt

[Mike 03]

12. Dem Candidates need to keep reminding voters

that there are a handful of issues that Republicans have always lied about because they accept money from lobbyists to do precisely that, including health care, prescription drug prices, gun rights and global warming/fossil fuels. Just keep drilling this point, which some of the candidates did last night. I think people are starting to get it. The Dark Money/Lobbyist theme can't be repeated enough, IMO.

Disclosure: I'm not necessarily in favor of Medicare for All.

[crazytown]

16. "I'm not necessarily in favor of Medicare for All"

Neither am I. But I am very much in favor of Senator Warren demonstrating the political skills and organization to deal with the opposition, including her competitors in the Primary race.

[Mike 03]

18. Completely agree! She did great last night. N/T