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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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that was ugly. this in-fighting makes me queasy. it all goes to the GOP war machine. EveHammond13 Jul 2019 #1
I prefer the candidates who do not sink to this level Skittles Jul 2019 #6
Harris brought it on herself....did she think her record was not going to be examined? Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #43
she is very intelligent Skittles Jul 2019 #50
Should be more than that treestar Jul 2019 #56
Why didn't she have a better answer? What Tulsi said is all true...and project innocence has Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #74
Yet, with two chances she has not explained the situation she was in. She should've taken a lesson ancianita Jul 2019 #90
Harris can afford to ignore Gabbard as she won't be around for the third debate. brush Jul 2019 #61
this in-fighting makes CNN really happy. All CNN wants is high ratings. I won't watch CNN again trueblue2007 Jul 2019 #10
I never watch. Never. It's MSNBC or Progressive Voices via the @TuneIn app EveHammond13 Jul 2019 #15
What took you so long? awesomerwb1 Jul 2019 #38
Exactly treestar Jul 2019 #57
Kamala ignored her bigtree Jul 2019 #2
Kamala has not once addressed any accusations. She just deflects them, including hlthe2b Jul 2019 #4
she doesn't need to on this stage bigtree Jul 2019 #8
I didn't say the comment you just made. At all. Why did you accuse me of that? hlthe2b Jul 2019 #11
calm down bigtree Jul 2019 #20
+1, This !!!! There's nothing about any of their past that is disqualifying uponit7771 Jul 2019 #35
Really...50 year old busing shit must be dealth with...by Biden but her far more recent stint as Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #76
I really liked Bennett's response and the passion he continues to show Greywing Jul 2019 #16
Yes.. it was a good response. Bennett came from education background in CO. hlthe2b Jul 2019 #21
I know he did ... a Denverite here Greywing Jul 2019 #27
ahh.... hlthe2b Jul 2019 #30
She talked around the question because what Tulsi said was true...I examined the record after the Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #44
can someone at least mention what was said ? JI7 Jul 2019 #3
same here, and glad I am not watching it either, and based on still_one Jul 2019 #9
I summarized it for you on the debate thread Indygram Jul 2019 #18
It was some kind of samurai sword jberryhill Jul 2019 #23
the lgbt community in hawaii could share some stories about tulsi nt msongs Jul 2019 #5
feel free to share Skittles Jul 2019 #7
she opposed and ran against practically all equality for gays issues. til suddenly she chose to run msongs Jul 2019 #17
i'm not up to speed on her but Skittles Jul 2019 #24
She was definitely anti-gay as an adult, quite recently. yardwork Jul 2019 #55
as an office holding adult dsc Jul 2019 #64
Come sit by me blm Jul 2019 #13
you know the old saying Skittles Jul 2019 #25
HAAAAAAAAA! oldsoftie Jul 2019 #33
That reminds me of this scene in Steel Magnolias MustLoveBeagles Jul 2019 #47
that's right Skittles Jul 2019 #52
... lapucelle Jul 2019 #40
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2019 #87
Interesting you say you're for Sanders but all of your posts since joining DU a half hour ago EffieBlack Jul 2019 #93
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2019 #95
No she didn't.. SunsetDreams2 Jul 2019 #12
Tulsi is jumping at the chance to attack another black president on Fox News SaschaHM Jul 2019 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2019 #94
Gilli is like novice stand up comedienne... pangaia Jul 2019 #19
Nope. Swing and another miss tishaLA Jul 2019 #22
I agree Sunsky Jul 2019 #70
Well, I tried watching. pangaia Jul 2019 #26
I question their ability to govern, Jakes Progress Jul 2019 #45
good description from what little I saw. pangaia Jul 2019 #69
Watching Kamala tonight I am reminded of Mike Tyson: aaaaaa5a Jul 2019 #28
swing and a miss bigtree Jul 2019 #39
Biden did well...he stood up for himself against her continued crap. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #46
And thank you.....we're watching "battle bots" on Science Channel..... a kennedy Jul 2019 #29
Tulsa sounded like a twitter bot nini Jul 2019 #31
well, considering....... JI7 Jul 2019 #32
She's been well-trained. Claritie Pixie Jul 2019 #34
Do you consider this to be a good thing? eom guillaumeb Jul 2019 #36
Harris looked like she'd been punched in the gut left-of-center2012 Jul 2019 #37
Her time as DA and AG is very problematic ...she can't defend it. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #48
Yes, she can ismnotwasm Jul 2019 #58
I think so, too. I think this is an horrible attack on an accomplished woman candidate. silentEcho Jul 2019 #67
Why didn't she then? She evaded the issue...I don't know how you eplain witholding vital evidence in Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #77
Because it's a fucking debate ismnotwasm Jul 2019 #82
Unlike Harris' attacks on Biden, Gabbard stated facts. Princetonian Jul 2019 #41
She stated distortions of facts. lapucelle Jul 2019 #81
Gabbard is on target: "U.S. judges see 'epidemic' of prosecutorial misconduct in state" (LA Times) Princetonian Jul 2019 #86
What I noticed was this paragraph. lapucelle Jul 2019 #92
Useful idiots. Jakes Progress Jul 2019 #42
Ugly. Why? I don't trust Gabbard, consider her a " plant". apcalc Jul 2019 #49
Watching her and listening to her is interesting. Claritie Pixie Jul 2019 #59
Same here blm Jul 2019 #62
I agree nini Jul 2019 #85
The fuck she did. ismnotwasm Jul 2019 #51
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2019 #75
Disappointed we have this negativity treestar Jul 2019 #53
harris evertonfc Jul 2019 #54
Trump is an "east coast elite" Skittles Jul 2019 #60
agree evertonfc Jul 2019 #66
That didn't happen in the debate I watched StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #63
Not a fan but I'm objective aaaaaa5a Jul 2019 #65
LOTS of baggage. democratisphere Jul 2019 #68
That was pretty brutal, Kamala looked dazed madville Jul 2019 #71
Wishful thinking on your part nt Sunsky Jul 2019 #72
She has no plans. She talks a lot but no substance. Claritie Pixie Jul 2019 #73
This Green Line Jul 2019 #78
I hope she will exit Sunsky Jul 2019 #84
Don't let the door hit you on your way out, Tulsi nbsmom Jul 2019 #88
I was listen to the radio, i think the 'referee' should have given Harris two standing 8 counts 4139 Jul 2019 #79
The t-shirts are out: "I was that grown up prosecutor". oasis Jul 2019 #80
Is it really OK, in your estimation, to refer to "the girls" by their first names? Glorfindel Jul 2019 #83
Sanders is universally known as Bernie crazytown Jul 2019 #89
Ok EffieBlack Jul 2019 #91
This hyperbole is juvenile and silly BannonsLiver Jul 2019 #96
Gabbard is a 1-percenter trying desperately to qualify for debate round 3 Tarc Jul 2019 #97
 

EveHammond13

(2,855 posts)
1. that was ugly. this in-fighting makes me queasy. it all goes to the GOP war machine.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:39 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Skittles

(171,713 posts)
6. I prefer the candidates who do not sink to this level
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:41 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
43. Harris brought it on herself....did she think her record was not going to be examined?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:08 PM
Jul 2019

Her time as AG and DA is a liability for her campaign and if she did win the nomination would continue to be a liability.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skittles

(171,713 posts)
50. she is very intelligent
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:19 PM
Jul 2019

of course she knows her record will be brought up

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treestar

(82,383 posts)
56. Should be more than that
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:23 PM
Jul 2019

For her to get dished what she served.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
74. Why didn't she have a better answer? What Tulsi said is all true...and project innocence has
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:42 PM
Jul 2019

reported stuff too. She needs to deal with this or she could never win a general.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
90. Yet, with two chances she has not explained the situation she was in. She should've taken a lesson
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:27 PM
Jul 2019

from Biden.

She went there again and deserved getting it back. Yet all she would say is, "I'm proud of my record." Not informing people about her situation the way Biden did every single time.

She's going to have to answer to her mistakes as AG. This issue won't go away because she ignores it or brushes it off.

She has to defend herself as well as she prosecutes others. All offense and no defense -- at least among her candidate peers -- weakens her otherwise solid campaign.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
61. Harris can afford to ignore Gabbard as she won't be around for the third debate.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:28 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

trueblue2007

(19,251 posts)
10. this in-fighting makes CNN really happy. All CNN wants is high ratings. I won't watch CNN again
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:42 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

EveHammond13

(2,855 posts)
15. I never watch. Never. It's MSNBC or Progressive Voices via the @TuneIn app
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:44 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

awesomerwb1

(5,103 posts)
38. What took you so long?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:02 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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treestar

(82,383 posts)
57. Exactly
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:24 PM
Jul 2019

It is all entertainment. There is no chance of any discussion in depth of any issue.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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bigtree

(94,261 posts)
2. Kamala ignored her
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:39 PM
Jul 2019

...Kamala ignored the charges and talked about her overall record. Didn't get drawn into the weeds. Good focus.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

hlthe2b

(113,971 posts)
4. Kamala has not once addressed any accusations. She just deflects them, including
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:41 PM
Jul 2019

the ridiculous rehash of busing.

Not defending either one, but she isn't answering and the moderators are letting her by with it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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bigtree

(94,261 posts)
8. she doesn't need to on this stage
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:42 PM
Jul 2019

...and it's not true that ('answers' can't be found) to these old questions.

It was the moderator who prompted her response on busing, and she was consistent with what she said before.

edit: ()

If I were to vote in a presidential
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hlthe2b

(113,971 posts)
11. I didn't say the comment you just made. At all. Why did you accuse me of that?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:43 PM
Jul 2019

I made the observation that she is deflecting and moderators are moving on. That is an effective tactic, but no less true.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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bigtree

(94,261 posts)
20. calm down
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:45 PM
Jul 2019

...I didn't actually mean 'you' specifically, can't find the answers to the old questions.

There's no need for her to rehash those on this stage, and Gabbard failed to bait her.

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Joe Biden
 

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
35. +1, This !!!! There's nothing about any of their past that is disqualifying
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:58 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
76. Really...50 year old busing shit must be dealth with...by Biden but her far more recent stint as
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:44 PM
Jul 2019

DA and AG is not relevant? I beg to differ. She will have to deal with this. How could she be our nominee if she doesn't? I promise you Trump will beat her with it day after day.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Greywing

(1,188 posts)
16. I really liked Bennett's response and the passion he continues to show
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:44 PM
Jul 2019

the value of education

If I were to vote in a presidential
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hlthe2b

(113,971 posts)
21. Yes.. it was a good response. Bennett came from education background in CO.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:45 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Greywing

(1,188 posts)
27. I know he did ... a Denverite here
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:49 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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hlthe2b

(113,971 posts)
30. ahh....
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:51 PM
Jul 2019

back at ya...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
44. She talked around the question because what Tulsi said was true...I examined the record after the
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:10 PM
Jul 2019

first debate...she can't keep avoiding the subject forever...

If I were to vote in a presidential
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JI7

(93,616 posts)
3. can someone at least mention what was said ?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:40 PM
Jul 2019

not everyone is watching

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still_one

(98,883 posts)
9. same here, and glad I am not watching it either, and based on
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:42 PM
Jul 2019

the impressions I am reading here, I am glad I am not watching this "gotcha" circus

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Indygram

(2,113 posts)
18. I summarized it for you on the debate thread
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:45 PM
Jul 2019

It was bad. I think it's going to hurt her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
23. It was some kind of samurai sword
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:47 PM
Jul 2019

Zip. Right through her.
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msongs

(73,754 posts)
5. the lgbt community in hawaii could share some stories about tulsi nt
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:41 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skittles

(171,713 posts)
7. feel free to share
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:42 PM
Jul 2019
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msongs

(73,754 posts)
17. she opposed and ran against practically all equality for gays issues. til suddenly she chose to run
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:45 PM
Jul 2019

for congress and her old true beliefs were electorally inconvenient.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Skittles

(171,713 posts)
24. i'm not up to speed on her but
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:48 PM
Jul 2019

I was under the impression her anti-gay past was influenced by her father - but you're saying she was anti-gay as an adult? UGH - no excuse for that

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yardwork

(69,364 posts)
55. She was definitely anti-gay as an adult, quite recently.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:23 PM
Jul 2019

Nasty, bigoted statements.

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dsc

(53,397 posts)
64. as an office holding adult
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:30 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(114,658 posts)
13. Come sit by me
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:43 PM
Jul 2019

and Skittles.


😏

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Skittles

(171,713 posts)
25. you know the old saying
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:49 PM
Jul 2019

if you don't have anything nice to say about someone you're probably a lot of fun to talk to*

*not necessarily a good campaigning tactic

If I were to vote in a presidential
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oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
33. HAAAAAAAAA!
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:55 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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MustLoveBeagles

(16,406 posts)
47. That reminds me of this scene in Steel Magnolias
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:12 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Skittles

(171,713 posts)
52. that's right
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:20 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
40. ...
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:04 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to msongs (Reply #5)

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
93. Interesting you say you're for Sanders but all of your posts since joining DU a half hour ago
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:35 PM
Jul 2019

have been going all in defending Tulsi Gabbard - with all kinds of material at the ready.

What’s up with that? And does Bernie know he’s being two-timed?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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SunsetDreams2

(387 posts)
12. No she didn't..
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:43 PM
Jul 2019

Not even close

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SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
14. Tulsi is jumping at the chance to attack another black president on Fox News
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:44 PM
Jul 2019

That Assadist cheerleader couldn't keep herself from scurrying to Trump tower fast enough when that sentient piece of orange feces called and she was already disqualified because of her Fox News commentary before that.

That being said, Harris should have had a stinger to hit back with since some 1% would try to improve their lot.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
19. Gilli is like novice stand up comedienne...
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:45 PM
Jul 2019


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tishaLA

(14,777 posts)
22. Nope. Swing and another miss
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:47 PM
Jul 2019

It was as if she had literally no idea about Sen Harris' record on the death penalty

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Sunsky

(1,876 posts)
70. I agree
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:35 PM
Jul 2019

Sounded like she has invested a lot of time reading right wing talking points. I loved how Sen Harris addressed this, answer then move on. No time wasted on bs.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
26. Well, I tried watching.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:49 PM
Jul 2019

I don;t get it.
Must just be me as these are mostly pretty smart people up there. and lots of smart people here at DU.

CNN successfully trying to get everybody yelling at each other...
And then most of them cutting each other up is terrible for me to watch...

I'll just check in here.. see what happened..

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Jakes Progress

(11,213 posts)
45. I question their ability to govern,
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:11 PM
Jul 2019

because they are so easily duped and led. They leap into whatever rightwing trap is laid for them. It's like the Democrats (some on that stage) who rushed to fulfill the republican fantasy of getting rid of Al Franken because he was so effective. The set the trap and these guys fought each other to be first to put their foot in the jaws.

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pangaia

(24,324 posts)
69. good description from what little I saw.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:33 PM
Jul 2019


If I were to vote in a presidential
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aaaaaa5a

(4,686 posts)
28. Watching Kamala tonight I am reminded of Mike Tyson:
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:49 PM
Jul 2019

Everybody has a plan until they get hit.


Harris hasn’t been the same since.

Knockout.

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bigtree

(94,261 posts)
39. swing and a miss
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:02 PM
Jul 2019

...

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Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
46. Biden did well...he stood up for himself against her continued crap.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:12 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

a kennedy

(35,979 posts)
29. And thank you.....we're watching "battle bots" on Science Channel.....
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:50 PM
Jul 2019

this concept started on Public Television years ago, and now it’s been transported to prime time on science channel with gawd damn advertisements. Still fun to watch.

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nini

(16,830 posts)
31. Tulsa sounded like a twitter bot
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:52 PM
Jul 2019

Someone should throw Assad and her homophobic past at her.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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JI7

(93,616 posts)
32. well, considering.......
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:55 PM
Jul 2019


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)
34. She's been well-trained.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:56 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

guillaumeb

(42,649 posts)
36. Do you consider this to be a good thing? eom
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:59 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
37. Harris looked like she'd been punched in the gut
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:01 PM
Jul 2019

Not a good look.

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Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
48. Her time as DA and AG is very problematic ...she can't defend it.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:13 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
58. Yes, she can
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:25 PM
Jul 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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silentEcho

(424 posts)
67. I think so, too. I think this is an horrible attack on an accomplished woman candidate.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:32 PM
Jul 2019

That she cannot justify rising to AG. What is that?

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Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
77. Why didn't she then? She evaded the issue...I don't know how you eplain witholding vital evidence in
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:47 PM
Jul 2019

a death penalty case which is what she was accused of...and this is not new either.

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ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
82. Because it's a fucking debate
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:53 PM
Jul 2019

Not a “what I did as a prosecutor” per Tulsi Gabbard

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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
41. Unlike Harris' attacks on Biden, Gabbard stated facts.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:06 PM
Jul 2019

There are news articles.

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lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
81. She stated distortions of facts.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:53 PM
Jul 2019
Appeal of Court Ruling on California’s Death Penalty

Press Release Attorney General Kamala D. Harris Issues Statement on Appeal…

SAN FRANCISCO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today issued the following statement on the decision to appeal the U.S. Central District of California court's ruling on the state’s death penalty. The court found that California’s death penalty is unconstitutional on the grounds that it takes too long for courts to consider and rule on defendants’ challenges to their convictions and sentences.

"I am appealing the court's decision because it is not supported by the law, and it undermines important protections that our courts provide to defendants. This flawed ruling requires appellate review."


https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-kamala-d-harris-issues-statement-appeal-court-ruling-california

It was crucial to appeal the judge's death penalty ruling because it was based on the premise that "the appeals process takes too long".

Why on earth would any lawyer interested in preserving civil liberties want that precedent to take root in state criminal law?
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Princetonian

(1,501 posts)
86. Gabbard is on target: "U.S. judges see 'epidemic' of prosecutorial misconduct in state" (LA Times)
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:10 PM
Jul 2019

"Federal judges called upon state Atty. Gen. Kamala D. Harris to respond to reports of a pattern of prosecutorial misconduct going undisciplined in state courts."

Also:

'Judge Alex Kozinski asked Vienna if his boss, Atty. Gen. Kamala D. Harris, wanted to defend a conviction “obtained by lying prosecutors.” If Harris did not back off the case, Kozinski warned, the court would “name names” in a ruling that would not be “very pretty.”'

https://www.latimes.com/local/politics/la-me-lying-prosecutors-20150201-story.html

Notice the big photo of Harris??

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lapucelle

(21,061 posts)
92. What I noticed was this paragraph.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:33 PM
Jul 2019
Kozinski, who in the past has spoken out about an “epidemic” of prosecutorial misconduct, asked Vienna whether Harris was aware of the case. Vienna indicated she probably was not. Kozinski told him to get her attention within 48 hours. Harris would need to take action if her office wanted to avoid an embarrassing ruling, Kozinski said.[/div
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Jakes Progress

(11,213 posts)
42. Useful idiots.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:08 PM
Jul 2019

That's what they call the stupid republicans that don't know they are doing putin's bidding.

So what do we call Democratic candidates that rush to do the republican's job?

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apcalc

(4,528 posts)
49. Ugly. Why? I don't trust Gabbard, consider her a " plant".
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:16 PM
Jul 2019
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Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)
59. Watching her and listening to her is interesting.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:27 PM
Jul 2019

She is quite robotic when she speaks.

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blm

(114,658 posts)
62. Same here
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:29 PM
Jul 2019
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nini

(16,830 posts)
85. I agree
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:04 PM
Jul 2019

I don't trust here farther than I could throw her. She was considered for the trump cabinet after all.

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ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
51. The fuck she did.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:20 PM
Jul 2019
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treestar

(82,383 posts)
53. Disappointed we have this negativity
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:22 PM
Jul 2019

Negativity always wins. The others have no choice to hit back. That’s why Kamala should not have started it. No pity for her when she gets it back.

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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
54. harris
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:23 PM
Jul 2019

I love Harris and she would be effective versus Trump. What worries me is the "San Francisco liberal " ads that are already written.

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Skittles

(171,713 posts)
60. Trump is an "east coast elite"
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:28 PM
Jul 2019
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evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
66. agree
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:30 PM
Jul 2019

I agree but the West coast liberal still plays in middle America. Unfortunately.

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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
63. That didn't happen in the debate I watched
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:29 PM
Jul 2019
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aaaaaa5a

(4,686 posts)
65. Not a fan but I'm objective
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:30 PM
Jul 2019

Gabbard is having a great night.

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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
68. LOTS of baggage.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:33 PM
Jul 2019

Glad it is being exposed.

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madville

(7,847 posts)
71. That was pretty brutal, Kamala looked dazed
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:36 PM
Jul 2019

She couldn't even refute anything Tulsi said with any facts, just saying that's not true or that's false. She was a good prosecutor but is now trying to hide from her record as such.

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Sunsky

(1,876 posts)
72. Wishful thinking on your part nt
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:36 PM
Jul 2019
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Claritie Pixie

(2,199 posts)
73. She has no plans. She talks a lot but no substance.
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:40 PM
Jul 2019

I also fail to see how her time as a captain in the military makes her the foreign policy expert she wants us to believe she is. Now she's fear-mongering about nuclear war.

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Sunsky

(1,876 posts)
84. I hope she will exit
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:59 PM
Jul 2019

She tried to gain some relevance but failed miserably. Bye Tulsi.

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nbsmom

(653 posts)
88. Don't let the door hit you on your way out, Tulsi
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:17 PM
Jul 2019

Kamala may have gone hard after Biden in the first debate, but Gabbard was intentionally going after the rising candidate—one of the other WOMEN on the stage.

Don't think that's gonna help her national poll rankings, though.

Buh-bye, you Russian plant.

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4139

(2,008 posts)
79. I was listen to the radio, i think the 'referee' should have given Harris two standing 8 counts
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:51 PM
Jul 2019

...she did not sound good after Tulsi tattooed with those haymakers

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oasis

(53,693 posts)
80. The t-shirts are out: "I was that grown up prosecutor".
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:52 PM
Jul 2019
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Glorfindel

(10,175 posts)
83. Is it really OK, in your estimation, to refer to "the girls" by their first names?
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:54 PM
Jul 2019

Doesn't that make them of less worth than "Biden" or "Sanders?" Just asking.

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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
89. Sanders is universally known as Bernie
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:22 PM
Jul 2019

as for VP Biden, his twitter avatar is Joe 2020.

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EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
91. Ok
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:27 PM
Jul 2019

Welcome to DU.

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BannonsLiver

(20,595 posts)
96. This hyperbole is juvenile and silly
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:50 PM
Jul 2019

What a strange and creepy way for one to express themselves.

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Tarc

(10,601 posts)
97. Gabbard is a 1-percenter trying desperately to qualify for debate round 3
Wed Jul 31, 2019, 11:54 PM
Jul 2019

Swing and a miss.

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