Maher: Democrats Can Win by Looking 'Less Crazy Than Trump' and 'They're Blowing It!'

[highplainsdem]

Well, we haven't blown it yet, but he's right that we do need to capitalize on Trump fatigue.


Mediaite article with full video of that segment of Maher's show:

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/maher-democrats-can-win-by-looking-less-crazy-than-trump-and-theyre-blowing-it/

Bill Maher closed his first show back from vacation with a message to Democrats: voters have Trump fatigue and they’ll kick him out, but embracing “left-wing extremism” will only hurt them.

Maher recapped the most insane Trump news from the past month and brought up how a majority of Americans are tired of Trump’s tweeting and “unpresidential” behavior.

And right now, he continued, Trump fatigue is the best thing Democrats have going for them, because Americans are “tired of looking at his fat fucking face.”

He argued that “moderates who have Trump fatigue” will gladly vote for normalcy, but “they won’t trade it away for left-wing extremism.”

-snip-

And, since he referred to "Old Town Road"...

[Me.]

1. Ah Yes, Bill Maher, Pal Of Ann Coulter

always a friend to Dems....NOT!

[50 Shades Of Blue]

2. You beat me to it!

[Me.]

4. Honestly

what Dems need to realize is that Maher & Moore are not our friends.

[highplainsdem]

7. Then you should warn Hakeem Jeffries, Jennifer Granholm and Marianne Williamson, who were on his

show last night:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017549006

[Me.]

11. I Would If I Could

that he will turn on them on a dime if the chance ever comes up

[Hortensis]

25. Better to admire them. They're hard at work and

go where work needs to be done. They go to Fox too and toxic RW radio.

Me. is absolutely correct. It's not the nature of scorpions to be our friends. That's sadly their main appeal to many of those they draw -- they claim high principles and goals but can be counted on to smear and sabotage the only party that has and can achieve them. Perverse and self destructive, so of course psychologists have studied them. They're a type.

One after describing many similarities between right and left wing variations went on to humorously describe an important difference this way: That those on the right hate everyone else, while those on the left hate themselves.

Maybe think about it.

[highplainsdem]

3. Maher hates Trump and wants Democrats to win.

[Me.]

10. Of Course He Does, Most Do

But constantly criticizing the Dems won't get the job done, quite the opposite. Maher always seems to assume he's the smartest boy in the room and the Dems are clueless. He certainly didn't have a hand with the great win of 2018. I think the Dems are doing the best they can with overwhelming odds. I also think there are plenty of people around telling them what they should do, 24/7. I say to Mr. Maher, what I'd like to say to all of these pundits, smarties and know it alls, put your energy into taking on traitor trump and the Cons and, what they're doing to destroy this country.

[betsuni]

22. He donated $1 million to the Senate Majority PAC to help Dems get elected in 2018.

He doesn't constantly criticize the Dems, just sometimes. He's not like Michael Moore.

[Me.]

24. Good To Know

Cause every time I've heard him he does...so I'm glad to hear otherwise, we can use all help.

[oasis]

12. Maher hammers Trump with a wit equal to no other. nt

[Fiendish Thingy]

5. Youth turnout will be suppressed by a Status Quo, Return To Normalcy nominee

To ensure unquestionable victory over Trump, youth turnout must be significantly increased.

Voters 18-24 won't be inspired to show up to vote just for a "return to normalcy".

[highplainsdem]

9. Young voters who can't see the difference between Trump and ANY of our candidates probably won't

bother to vote anyway.

Maher's right that our base is motivated by wanting to get Trump out of the White House.

[Trumpocalypse]

15. Voting is a responsibility

not an invite to a high school dance.

[Gothmog]

6. Fighting over the details of their healthcare proposals won't help them beat Donald Trump

Link to tweet

[highplainsdem]

8. No, ir won't. I saw Joy Reid's show this morning, mentioned what she was sayiing in another

thread:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=226649

[lame54]

13. Did he define left wing extremism?...

If he is talking any form of universal healthcare

He is way off - it's very doable

[jcgoldie]

14. I thought Maher was terrible last night

He kept tacitly supporting douchebag Buck Sexton's idiocy against Granholm. It took Marianne Williamson to actually stand up to that asshole.

[Trumpocalypse]

16. That's true

I was glad Williamson was there.

[Trumpocalypse]

17. Maher has a point

Let’s focus on winning the election. The revolution can come later.

[BootinUp]

18. K&R

[Gothmog]

19. American politics could use a healthy dose of pragmatism

Link to tweet

Most Americans aren’t philosophers, thank goodness, but we are a nation of pragmatists. And so, despite the snap to her zinger, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.) was out of the mainstream when she shrugged off criticism during the second round of Democratic debates by saying: “I don’t understand why anybody goes to all the trouble of running for president of the United States just to talk about what we really can’t do and shouldn’t fight for.”

Democrats should be demanding more answers, not fewer. Will Medicare-for-all cost key union votes in critical Midwestern states, as Rep. Tim Ryan (D-Ohio) argued during the debates? Does a free-tuition promise at state colleges and universities benefit middle- and upper-class families more than families in need? Is Warren’s proposed tax on the assets of wealthy Americans likely to pass constitutional muster, and what strategies are billionaires likely to employ to avoid it? In light of those answers, will it really pay for all that she has promised?

Do Americans support decriminalizing illegal border crossings? Do Americans oppose lawful deportations? Do Americans agree that the federal government should guarantee a job for every person? Pragmatic questions such as these are highly relevant in a representative democracy, where politics is the art of the possible.

What I don’t understand is why anybody goes to all the trouble of running for president of the United States simply to ignore questions about real-world realities and promise fights without explaining how to win them. Reality is not going to bend to a new shape come 2021 just because a President Sanders shouts at it or a President Warren fights with it.

[Cha]

20. Thanks, Goth!

[betsuni]

23. +1

[Cha]

21. Well if he means like m4all I

agree.

Thanks, highplains

[Garrett78]

26. Maher and others need to stop with the false equivalency shit.

It's sad what passes for "left wing extremism" in this country. Republicans have been so successful, over the last several decades, at moving the Overton Window (thanks in large part to a pathetic media but also thanks to Democrats failing to frame issues properly) that right wing insanity is more palatable than, say, universal health care or reducing CO2 emissions or gun control or reparations.

Therefore, we get equations that say Louie Gohmert = Elizabeth Warren or Steve King = Kamala Harris.

We do a disservice by contributing to this narrative.

[betsuni]

28. Who said Louie Gohmert equals Elizabeth Warren or Steve King equals Kamala Harris?

Certainly not Bill Maher.

[Garrett78]

29. That's the implication. Actually, I understated the problem. It's even worse.

Because "too far right" and "right wing extremist" are phrases that rarely get uttered by the media. Hell, even on DU, you're far more likely to read "too far left."

"Right wing extremist" is reserved for those who carry out acts of terrorism. But Elizabeth Warren is a "fringe leftist" or "left wing extremist." Medicare for All and consumer protection is made equivalent - nay, worse - than climate change denial and separating families and banning abortion rights.

Because, again, the Republican Party has successfully and drastically shifted the Overton Window over the last several decades.

[kcr]

27. That's why he loves Marianne Williamson

https://www.newsweek.com/watch-bill-maher-marianne-williamson-bond-over-criticism-big-pharma-anti-depressants-1452429

[Autumn]

30. What he is saying to Democrats is, don't select anyone who will make me pay more taxes.

[themaguffin]

31. I watched the show. He's absolutely right.