Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThe Sanders Institute, Bernie's think tank has stopped accepting donations.
Jane Sanders, who also serves as a chief adviser to her husbands presidential campaign, is not compensated for her role at the institute. Her son, David Driscoll, is a paid $100,000 a year as co-founder and executive director. Driscoll previously worked for a Vermont snowboarding firm and had no previous nonprofit experience, according to his LinkedIn profile.
The lack of transparency and the family ties has drawn criticism from good-government advocates.
For a politician who runs on fairness and socialist principals, this looks like the old political games, said Lawrence R. Jacobs, director of the Center for the Study of Politics and Governance at the University of Minnesotas Humphrey School of Public Affairs. Its a product of running a political operation in which family rules the roost.
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Eliot Rosewater
(34,282 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
forklift
(401 posts)Indubitably, people will draw parallels .......
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(317,722 posts)yeah, I would think so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stonecutter357
(13,005 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Maru Kitteh
(31,395 posts)TAXES Bernie. TAXES.
Oh, and - Jesus fucking Christ! Jane was paying her son 100K salary? IVANKA ANYONE?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)My guess is donations dropped off, so the gravy train got bogged down. Her son will likely join the campaign in a cushy spot, as long as that lasts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
greymattermom
(5,807 posts)I don't know what it is, but the tax thing is a deal breaker for me.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Maru Kitteh
(31,395 posts)he would make, if he ever had the chance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Another recent decision that troubles me is the decision to not release his full tax returns. Something tells me that someone has made a deliberate decision to NOT release them. Someone on the campaign (or maybe the candidate) has weighed the pros-and-cons... calculated the pluses-and-minuses... and determined that the "fallout" from not releasing the tax returns is more acceptable than the "fallout" of going ahead and releasing them.
All I'm saying is that HONESTY and TRANSPARENCY is important to me. It's also important to me that the next POTUS be able to make wise decisions about his (or her) cabinet and other appointments.
It's perfectly reasonable for people to consider the fact that if a candidate hasn't shown thoughtful foresight in the past, then why should I believe they'll be capable of doing it in the future?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)If the same people who have a problem with Bernie having "fuzzy" lines with family will have the same with Biden?
Somehow I don't think so.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
backabby-blue
(144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)That's your biased opinion.
So by your statement you'd accept that behavior from ANYBODY else, just not Bernie. Gotcha.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
backabby-blue
(144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
backabby-blue
(144 posts)Sanders Institute was a sham non-profit that employed relatives and worked only to promote Bernie's political career.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,947 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(28,891 posts)He always talks about how Democrats are beholden to corporate donors, Wall Street, Big Banks, Pharma, the wealthy elite. That he is the only honest, authentic and consistent one.
Here is the message he is sending: The majority of Americans agree with Bernie, who has introduced progressive ideas to Democrats for the first time. What was radical is now mainstream. But billionaires have bribed Democrats and they are terrified and doing everything they can to stop progressive ideas.
This message is very clear, all you have to do is listen to him.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Lazy Daisy
(928 posts)For a clear, non combative response. So here's mine
Yes, Bernie's msg is along those lines.
I would argue that he's NOT saying he's introduced these progressive ideas for the first time moreso that he's been pushing these ideas for a long time. I have seen him give credit where credit is due. In the beginning of the last primaries he credited Hillary's healthcare policies during her husbands Presidency. They did work together back then on healthcare.
I would also argue he's NOT saying Democrats have been corrupted, but that Government has been corrupted. That lobbyist have tainted governance for the average American. I don't think anybody can disagree with that. Is there any Democrat that doesn't want to see Citizens United overturned? Is there any Democrat that doesn't want big moneyed lobbyist reigned in? I love that Elizabeth Warren has set the bar for funding campaigns with small donors.
And for the last argument of this post.....I think most Americans do agree with many of his policy stances. Healthcare, wages, education, etc. Even red states are coming around to seeing how we've (American public) has been getting screwed for a long time and it's about time the pendulum swing back our way
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MrsCoffee
(5,825 posts)But words mean things. His quotes have been posted repeatedly. His whole brand is based on attacking the Democratic Party. He doesnt like the party and wants everyone to know it. When someone shows you who they really are, believe them.
It takes a great deal of cognitive dissonance to pretend he hasnt spent an extraordinary amount of time attacking the Democratic Party.
Dont piss down my back and tell me its raining.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,516 posts)
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)No snark. I havent heard of it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bkelly
(9 posts)First link is to the dailymail and they cite Breitbart as the paper of record. It relates to Hunter Biden flying to China with Joe Biden on official business and brokering a private deal while there. The second link is the WSJ which seems to confirm it among other things and relies on a book by Peter Schweizer. I don't know how credible it is overall. He's a conservative author so my initial reaction is not that credible.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,516 posts)
Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(28,891 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
WeekiWater
(3,259 posts)At face value.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(46,151 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,516 posts)Oh, and don't forget... where are Bernie's tax returns?! What's he hiding?? (Waiting for the bashing to start... shouldn't take long.)

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
betsuni
(28,891 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)If you think there's a double standard why don't you specifically say what it is?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(96,619 posts)You do remember Hillary Clinton, correct?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I'll watch this with great interest.
PS: WHERE ARE THE FULL TAX RETURNS FROM THE PAST TEN YEARS? TICK TOCK.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(317,722 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
backabby-blue
(144 posts)Stunning hypocrisy from his 2016 rhetoric. Grifters gonna grift.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(317,722 posts)for a long time now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
There are many feels about the UNFAIRNESS of that sort of comment.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(317,722 posts)And, No fucking surprises.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(317,722 posts)Daredevils!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)in politics?
Someday, perhaps we'll even have one as a POTUS.
LET UP, WILL YOU???
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(317,722 posts)making stuff UP!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The thing is, I know that I am.... unlike others.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(28,891 posts)Yesterday I saw a video titled "How Political Dynasties are Ruining America." I knew what was coming just by looking at the guy narrating the video. Didn't turn on the sound, waited for what I knew was coming: yup, the Clintons are still hard at work ruining America with dynasties.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)rather than simply ranting about it for decades, were never found to be self-dealing or corrupt, or cut checks to family members, and actually made a difference in the lives of girls - oh wait, that's "identity politics" isn't it?
My bad.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Response to betsuni (Reply #19)
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betsuni
(28,891 posts)Last edited Fri Mar 15, 2019, 06:31 AM - Edit history (1)
For four months after the race was clearly over in March, Sanders continued to accept donations. Ted Devine's monthly fee was $810,000. Sanders said: "Let me give special thanks to the financial support we received from students struggling to repay their college loans, from seniors and disabled vets on Social Security, from workers earning starvation wages and even from people who were unemployed."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
backabby-blue
(144 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(317,722 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)that's totally different and totally progressive because REASONS.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)of conscience. My lord.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)...is extremely limited.
https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/charitable-organizations/exemption-requirements-section-501c3-organizations
Excerpts:
"...it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates."
"Section 501(c)(3) organizations are restricted in how much political and legislative (lobbying) activities they may conduct."
"A section 501(c)(3) organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, such as the creator or the creator's family, shareholders of the organization, other designated individuals, or persons controlled directly or indirectly by such private interests. No part of the net earnings of a section 501(c)(3) organization may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual. A private shareholder or individual is a person having a personal and private interest in the activities of the organization."
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(20,964 posts)https://vtdigger.org/2019/03/06/investigations-bernie-jane-sanders-burlington-college/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(96,619 posts)Thanks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(317,722 posts)not less.
Mahalo, lapucelle!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Maru Kitteh
(31,395 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(20,964 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Maru Kitteh
(31,395 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(53,434 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(28,891 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(20,964 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Its a product of running a political operation in which family rules the roost.
Would they say this about the Kennedy Family? I don't think so.
I have noticed several threads that try to portray Sanders as money obsessed and I am afraid we are skating very near an intolerable bit of bigotry which is that "Jewish people love money to excess." Do not go there, please.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(20,964 posts)and the MSM has never been shy about shilling "Clinton Cash" nonsense in the service of generating its own revenue.
As for the other allegation, it appears that you are the only person who actually did go there.
I've never heard that talking point before. Are you accusing VT Digger of antisemitism for its coverage of the finances of the family of one of the state's sitting senators? Would that charge also include Jane O'Meara and the Driscoll children who are not Jewish?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(317,722 posts)poster who goes around accusing others of "kneecapping" when it's VETTING, lapucelle.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Especially since you're the only one who's "gone there."

primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(69,095 posts)Asking candidates to release their tax returns is not being anti-Semitic. That is an absurd accusation.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)They could certainly address some of the issues being discussed with that.
Their last 990 was posted in Dec. 2017.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LexVegas
(6,955 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(48,869 posts)bad. You went bye bye.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=350941
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
