I don't watch TV. I do read.

[Wawannabe]

I don’t get a daily dose of the BS on TV.
What I do get...is 35% of us (US Dems) are for Biden (me just recently again -because he did not run in 2016 and that let us (US) all down).

Today. He is THE candidate.

He served with Obama and 35%+++ want Obama’s legacy back and they/we back Biden. The “force” is with Obama and his legacy.

May the force be with you.

Biden. Got it?
That is all.

[NurseJackie]

1. And I don't read books, 'cause if they're any good, they're gonna make 'em into a miniseries.

I do not see plays, because I can nap at home for free. And I don't see movies 'cause they're trash, and they got nothin' but naked people in 'em! And I don't read books, 'cause if they're any good, they're gonna make 'em into a miniseries.

Today. He is THE candidate.

He served with Obama and 35%+++ want Obama’s legacy back and they/we back Biden. The “force” is with Obama and his legacy.

May the force be with you.

Biden. Got it?
That is all.

You make some excellent points. You are correct. It's very clear that this is where we're headed.

[Hortensis]

3. Lol, love her character. That last sentence is classic.

[Wawannabe]

14. Thanks

I just recently went Biden from undecided. In 2016, i waited. And waited. And was SORELY disappointed. He did not run. I can’t blame him but I do know that is THE ONLY WAY we got rump. I have been undecided up till last week. His speech and my HOPE (still lasts from Obama yrs) made me decide to stay in the Biden camp.
Should there be another nominee...I will vote for that person.
But.
As I stated in the OP.

Biden. Got it?

[Hortensis]

2. If you don't marinate in cable politics, you'd going to be

awfully surprised when all the giant rifts in our party finally cause it to fly apart. I'm hoping whatever fragment I'm on will land in Hawaii because I've never been there.

[Demsrule86]

10. Tired of the shit...either you vote with Democrats and are a Democrat or you support the

right wing...doesn't matter if you vote for some self serving money grubbing lying idiot like Stein or stay home...you betray your neighbor,your supposed party and your country (not saying you specifically). I am tired of the threats (again not saying you) give us what we want even if we lose because A. we refuse to believe this is a center left country and the moderate rust belt is the key to victory in 20 and beyond no matter how many times folks show us the electoral college maps or B. we don't care because having a pure candidate makes it worth losing... winning isn't the most important thing and all...also known as political suicide...again not you. C. My personal favorite...it is our turn damn it to have a progressive candidate...the candidate of our dreams...you are just and old meanie to bring up electability. It is not a thing.

No matter how you cut it...we only win when we are a big tent party We can't get the senate or presidency without running a moderate candidate (in moderate areas for the Senate). In fact, we took the midterms with moderate voters...progressive shuffled Democratic seats around which does us no real good in getting the numbers for majorities. So decide if Republicans are always worse than Democrats...Spoiler they are always worse. Thus vote Democratic always always and always.

[Hortensis]

11. Lol. You're sounding maybe a little grouchy today.

Agree entirely.

Except for weaonized, re-defined terminology because opponents in and out of the media are employing it to defeat us, and it is doing harm.

Most strongly by smearing the liberals who dominate our party as "moderates" -- they use that to mean halfway to mostly conservative! BS! Our party is strongly dominated by liberals, and liberals of all strengths (mild, moderate, and strong) joined by some mild-to-moderate conservatives (both in and out of the party) were the blue wave of the midterms.

And when enemies try to smear liberalism and our big-tent liberal party by calling this hostile, dissident radical faction a "liberal wing," BS! That person is trashing us and liberalism itself as extreme and dysfunctional in order to elect Republicans.

As for "Progressives," BS! Liberal Democrats and some moderate conservatives who believe in progressivism in government are true, committed progressives. Not a little faction that every election has the chance to help elect not just one or two favorites but hundreds of progressive liberal candidates and instead spites it all out of a compulsion to dissent against the large, very diverse Democratic majority. A pathology, not an ideology.

There! Me too!

[Demsrule86]

12. Maybe a little...Trump was so avoidable if only Democrats voted for the Democratic candidate.

And to hear this...but but the base the base won't be on board...first of all if they are the base, they are always on board! And secondly, it is Trump we are talking about...plus every year the threats...I fear another win for Trump..the first time was awful awful...but this time would be catastrophic.

[Hortensis]

13. Oh, yes, the phony "the base" we're always in supposed danger

of losing if we don't clean up our act. Another good one.

It took a long time, but I finally joined those who wonder if Trump really got the votes even for the electoral college majority. Agree this could be our last chance.

We'll see who wins the nomination, but my heart was warmed by a pair of interviews at the Iowa state fair of a couple of AA women who when asked said they liked Biden and would be happy to vote for him. Nothing dramatic, it was just the nice, decent, sensible way they talked. What elections should look like.

[Demsrule86]

21. I am hopeful too and I too believe the election was close enough to steal and the GOP did

with a little help from the Russians...this time we are warned however...so it will be different.

[Wawannabe]

15. Giant rift due to Sanders

He is not a Dem. He splits the ticket and this is not acceptable. He should go away.

I am surprised by little. Disgusted by much!

[Hortensis]

19. Same here, disgust included. But a giant rift is a giant media lie.

A hostile one.

They never mention the truth: That Sanders' dissidents who won't vote Democrat are a tiny faction of our great Democratic alliance, who are overall solidly united against the right. Sanders' hostile dissident faction is just plain far too small to create a rift - except between themselves and us. We of course include all those keeping Sanders on their lists (that strangely put him in company with candidates he despises as hardly different from Republicans!), but solid Democrats who have every intention of voting Democrat.

Btw, speaking of disgusting, nice to see some of the media are finally pointing out some similarity between Sanders and Trump, even though it's just that they're both attacking the Washington Post to rally their bases. There are a number of far more significant similarities, but at least a little line is drawn connecting the ideological/behavioral dots of the Sanders and Trump camps. Brian Williams every specifically noted how Sanders uses Trump talking points.

Sanders is already backtracking to evade this new spotlight.

[Kahuna7]

4. The other candidates and MSNBC pundits are trying to convince us...

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that we don't want a continuation of Obama/Biden. Bernie failed with that message in 2016, and they're all failing with that message now. 'We don't need to go back,' they say. Voters are saying, 'yeah, we want to go back because we had peace of mind.

[Wawannabe]

16. Hakuna matata

= Obama/Biden years.

[ananda]

5. Same here.

TV news has gotten so toxic that I cut the cable
for internet only.

I like it.

[thesquanderer]

6. re: "35% of us (US Dems) are for Biden"

I believe the polls are saying that 35% (well actually, on average, more like 31%) of those who have a preference are for Biden. There are many undecideds, too.

But there's a lot of time for candidates to move (in either direction) between now and Iowa. (Well, at least for those who stay in as far as Iowa!)

[Demsrule86]

8. I believe Joe will be the nominee ...probably on super Tuesday...or the next set of primaries.

[Wawannabe]

17. As do I

Nailed it!

Biden. Got it?

[Demsrule86]

22. Got it!!!!

[Demsrule86]

7. I am with you...and I sure the force is too...may the force and eveything else be

be with Biden as we take down Trump- the monstrous piece of excrement currently occupying the White House.

[Wawannabe]

18. Hell to the yes!!!

May tRump be a gonner. “Forced” out.
Putrid, sack of shit that he is.

[Demsrule86]

20. Hell hell to the yes...and more...may Trump never know a peaceful day and die alone and

penniless...hopefully in prison.

[elocs]

9. I do watch tv, I don't read other than online reading.

I haven't read a book in years because frankly I'm just not interested anymore in books, not even online books. Frankly, I do much more reading with the internet than before it existed and these old eyes only have so much reading in them.