SANDERS OVERTAKES BIDEN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE POLL

[Hassin Bin Sober]

SANDERS OVERTAKES BIDEN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE POLL

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign-polls/457235-sanders-overtakes-biden-in-new-hampshire-poll


Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) leads the Democratic presidential field in New Hampshire with 21 percent in a Gravis Marketing poll released Tuesday.

Sanders is followed by former Vice President Joe Biden with 15 percent and by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) at 12 percent.

The poll stands in contrast from the most recent polls in New Hampshire compiled by RealClearPolitics, which have showed Biden leading in the critical primary state, followed by Sanders.

Gravis Marketing polled 250 Democratic primary voters on Aug. 2-6 using interactive voice responses and an online panel of cell phone users. The primary question had a margin of error of 6.2 percentage points.

“It is important to note that Sen. Sanders won the New Hampshire Democratic Primary in 2016,” Doug Kaplan, president of Gravis Marketing, said in a statement.

[TexasTowelie]

1. Isn't it adorable

that some people are excited by the polling results from a marketing firm which is rated C+ by 538.com?

[sheshe2]

4. ;)

[TexasTowelie]

11. Oh geez, Hassin.

You revealed a lot about yourself with that post. Unfortunately there isn't a smilie or gif that I can post as a reply.

[TexasTowelie]

13. Yet Beto still has a better chance of becoming the Democratic presidential nominee

than Bernie ever will. It may not be the 2020 election, but Beto will still be able to run for president for another couple of decades.

[SouthernProgressive]

54. This. NT

[sheshe2]

16. Wow.

Ridiculing Beto, a Democrat that went out and drove to every county in Texas to campaign for the Senate. He is an amazing Democrat and yet here you posting a mask of a character, Chewbacca, in star wars to mock him. What a parady that you would post Chewy. He was a hero as is Beto.

Fact is Beto has built bridges.

[Tiggeroshii]

19. Texas doesnt have states.

Do you mean counties?

[sheshe2]

22. Thanks for the correction.

I also appreciate, your support, obviously non support, of the Democratic candidate Beto O'Rourke. You seem to agree with the other poster that he needs to be laughed at and ridiculed.

Wow.

[Tiggeroshii]

25. Not sure where you construed that nonesense.

I admire Beto for his diligence, hard work, integrity and ability to be the first democrat in more than a decade to break 45% in a statewide race in Texas. I would actually be stoked if he got the nomination because if he got within 3% of winning in Texas, he clearly can win Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan. That being said, his talents seem like they would be best spent in the US Senate race handing John Cornyn his ass. I adore Beto and his speaking truth to the evil fuckers in power right now.

On edit: Although it was clearly an accident that you said state instead of county, I find it highly likely he would visit every state were Beto to get the nomination. Because that's just how he rolls

[sheshe2]

27. Good to hear.

Fact is I think if you really stand for him you should be correcting the ones that are ridiculing him here and not my misspeak.

[Tiggeroshii]

28. Nobody's ridiculing him.

But we are spending far too much time ridiculing each other over petty nonsense than actually directing our fire towards the true enemies of our state.

[sheshe2]

32. Yes they are.

Sorry you missed all that.

I voted for the Democratic nominee in 2016. I always vote for the DEMOCRTIC CANDIDATE. Always.

Way to many here did not. Stated it for fact and are gone and did their best to have others do the same. If you can't/ won't see who campaigns have hired to be their top advisors for 2020 and are unconcerned by it then I can't help you.

[Tiggeroshii]

44. Good luck with that, then!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

30. Did you even watch that movie or read the book?

Colonel Nicholson collaborates with the enemy due to a sense of pride over duty.

He realizes his error before he dies.

[TexasTowelie]

49. I see that the reply that you made to me earlier wasn't considered to be as amusing

as you thought you were.

BTW, I saw that O'Rourke climbed to 5% in the YouGov survey released today. Beto could easily rise to fourth place after the next debate in September. At the point, he will provide a nice alternative to voters compared to the top three candidates who will be in their 70s.

[melman]

12. What's even cuter is

some people considering FiveThirtyEight to be the gold standard in...anything.

[TexasTowelie]

14. And yet people don't remember

that Gravis started out as a poll that was heavily skewed toward Republicans. Some people have short-term memories though.

However, if you want to take a Gravis Marketing poll to the bank, then I can't stop you.

[melman]

15. Did I say anything at all about Gravis Marketing?

No. No I didn't.

[TexasTowelie]

17. Deflect if you wish.

It isn't only 538.com that has ranked Gravis Marketing in low esteem. It doesn't matter how Gravis tries to cover the stench of their shitty poll, it is still a shitty poll.

However, if you wish to believe Gravis then go ahead.

[melman]

18. I still didn't say a single word about about Gravis Marketing

And I'm still loling at the idea that a '538 rating' means a goddamn thing.

[TexasTowelie]

21. I give the 538 rating more validity than any poll result from Gravis Marketing.

I believe that most people also feel the same way. A shitty poll is a shitty poll whether you wish to acknowledge it or not.

[George II]

58. In your own unique manner, yes you did.

[sheshe2]

26. Cute, huh?

Are you trying to be coy here by saying we are cute? Pathetic is the word you used the other night. Are they one in the same? You can always PM me if you wish to discuss the difference.

Your words, melman.

[melman]

29. No idea what you're talking about

Sorry.

[TexasTowelie]

31. .

[sheshe2]

33. hmmmm

Alrighty then.

[melman]

34. Didn't you just have a thread about how we shouldn't mock?

Yeah. You did. It's right here


And now here you are mocking. I don't mind telling you I find it very disappointing.

[sheshe2]

35. I did.

Never saw you post on it. Kick it or Recommend it.

Now after it faded away you are commenting?

[melman]

38. No

I didn't do any of those things. You are quite right about that.

Would you like to know why? You can always PM if you wish to discuss it.

[sheshe2]

39. Mahlo, melman.

You can always post them.

[Eliot Rosewater]

59. I wonder why I dont see certain things at certain threads by certain folks, oh well

It is actually not so funny to hear people saying Warren is too corporate, etc.

[sheshe2]

37. Mahalo

[betsuni]

40. She said "We would never mock our own here."

I don't see the problem.

[melman]

41. ooh

I get it. Totally sick burn.

[betsuni]

42. No idea what you're talking about. Sorry.

But you can always PM me if you wish to discuss ointments.

[melman]

43. "if you wish to discuss ointments"

Thanks just the same but I'd really prefer not to discuss ointments with you.

[betsuni]

45. ...

[sheshe2]

61. ...

[MarcA]

55. 538 can't see the forest for the leaves. n/t

[George II]

56. 538.com is a highly respected source of poll ratings.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fivethirtyeight/

?w=600&ssl=1

[sheshe2]

2. SANDERS OVERTAKES BIDEN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE POLL

OMG. OMG. OMG.

AWESOME!!!!!



250 Democratic primary voters on Aug. 2-6 using interactive voice responses and an online panel of cell phone users. The primary question had a margin of error of 6.2 percentage points.

[R B Garr]

5. LOL SHE!

Great post!

[R B Garr]

3. THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN DEBUNKED

[highplainsdem]

7. Only the 3rd time someone's posted about this in 6 hours, but the first ALL CAPS

subject line, so I guess the excitement's growing.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

9. Won't somebody think of the pixels?

?v=1543142526

[sheshe2]

36. Don't they say three times a charm.

There is another one about once, twice, three….

[highplainsdem]

8. Also the 3rd time an OP about the poll left out that Biden does better than Sanders against Trump.

Which is why I posted an OP about that part of the poll (which was more reliable, with a smaller MOE)...but we don't need that in triplicate, lol.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287238605

[Hassin Bin Sober]

10. That's a C rated poll!

[Tiggeroshii]

20. +10,000

[questionseverything]

24. think of the treaties!

[LanternWaste]

47. Well, I guess polls finally matter now.

Funny how that works...

[Skya Rhen]

60. +1,000,000

[Prosper]

51. Are they polling the same group that

already rated Biden ahead. Don’t forget that Biden stands alone at the right and Bernie has to share the %points with all the rest. The rest who have become more left taking points from Bernie’s platform.

[Drunken Irishman]

23. He hasn't overtaken Biden...

This isn't an issue with the poster but the narrative a lot in the media use to push these polls. No, Sanders didn't overtake Biden. Why? Because there's no other poll from Gravis from New Hampshire to reference. You can't compare two different polls, with two different sample sizes, and different methodologies, and suggest they're comparable. They're not. This is a poll independent of every other - and the first Gravis poll of the state.

A more accurate headline would be the paragraph they lead with:

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) leads the Democratic presidential field in New Hampshire with 21 percent in a Gravis Marketing poll released Tuesday.

[George II]

57. That was my take when I saw this yesterday. The only way there could be a so-called....

..."overtaking" would be if Biden was ahead in the first place.

[Butterflylady]

46. Wow,

Sorry, that doesn't seem to excite me!

[SouthernProgressive]

48. Unbelievable he is struggling so bad in his own back yard.

His weak showing is disqualifying. He is a career politician with extremely limited accomplishments outside of becoming a one percent earner as he heads for retirement.

Biden is within the margin of error for this poll. Pretty weak for Sanders to be touting that he is within the margin of error in his own back yard. This has to hurt.

[Politicub]

50. Good for him

But what a waste of resources just to be at the top of the polls for a single tiny state. I feel the same way about the other candidates that are spending money there.

Iowa and South Carolina are bellwethers of sorts, so campaigning in those states makes sense. I don't think New Hampshire is really worth the big investment.

[dawg day]

52. How big a deal is this? He practically lives in NH-

If he wasn't leading, THAT would be a big deal.

[stonecutter357]

53. #fakenews !