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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Disqualifying! (nt) mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #1
Agree heartily. Do not need a paranoid guy with a grudge he can't overcome in the White House. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #20
I wish Sen. Sanders would withdraw. Lucid Dreamer Aug 2019 #2
makes more sense than saying Beto should withdraw Skittles Aug 2019 #13
This comment, if upheld, will frost many, IMNSHO. sprinkleeninow Aug 2019 #3
And yet we're supposed to support HIM if HE's the winner? n/t pnwmom Aug 2019 #4
Sorry, BS.. Many people say there are much better candidates Cha Aug 2019 #5
Why does this not surprise me!!! How can dem voters support such a divisive candidate? Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #6
Does this site support a candidate turncoat? RainCaster Aug 2019 #7
Good question isn't it! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #9
In a nutshell. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #21
one suspects DU terms specify you will support the democratic nominee. BS might just msongs Aug 2019 #12
Some people say there are so many similarities dalton99a Aug 2019 #8
Typical. betsuni Aug 2019 #10
.. Cha Aug 2019 #11
Some people say that this is Bernie's last shot at the White House, so... TreasonousBastard Aug 2019 #14
There was a thread the other day... PJMcK Aug 2019 #15
Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #16
Some people say that if he had spent as many years inside the OnDoutside Aug 2019 #17
This kind of talk... Mike Nelson Aug 2019 #18
They could. You just gave them how to. But he'd rather nurse the grudge and take a shot at emmaverybo Aug 2019 #23
As I predicted the downfall would be epic and pitiful. MyNameGoesHere Aug 2019 #19
yes, it is quite predictable Skittles Aug 2019 #25
It won't work this time. RandySF Aug 2019 #22
This is a disappointment... yuiyoshida Aug 2019 #24
Hope this gives insight into his character for many. Hortensis Aug 2019 #26
He just lost any chance he may of had duforsure Aug 2019 #27
We'll see. He's been repeating his behaviors of 2016 all along. Hortensis Aug 2019 #29
It won't work this time. Too many other candidates who will take delegates. brush Aug 2019 #35
OMG ... AirmensMom Aug 2019 #28
One would think that he'd be satisfied that Hillary secondwind Aug 2019 #30
Observation that nobody here supporting Sanders chose to defend his remarks brooklynite Aug 2019 #31
Observation: Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Aug 2019 #34
Did he say "maybe if the system wasn't rigged against me" or not? yardwork Aug 2019 #36
Ok I'm not Bernie's Number One fan but this was from June 26 Rstrstx Aug 2019 #33
Did Bernie say "maybe if the system wasn't rigged against me?" yardwork Aug 2019 #38
Is this the first time he's come out and made that accusation? Rstrstx Aug 2019 #42
He made or implied that accusation many times in 2016. yardwork Aug 2019 #44
The things you mentioned, old political deflect, nonanswer, taking the loss hard Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #43
if anyone has a right to question the last election, its Hillary.. samnsara Aug 2019 #37
Same shit different year njhoneybadger Aug 2019 #39
Is he still complaining about 2016? zeusdogmom Aug 2019 #40
Gee, i remember someone else saying this back in '16............ oldsoftie Aug 2019 #41
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. Disqualifying! (nt)
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:23 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,148 posts)
20. Agree heartily. Do not need a paranoid guy with a grudge he can't overcome in the White House.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:58 AM
Aug 2019

Of course I would vote for him, but I hope Dems look seriously at his lack of loyalty and leadership
qualifications, and at his unsporting behavior as shown in 2016 and arising now once again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Lucid Dreamer

(589 posts)
2. I wish Sen. Sanders would withdraw.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:30 AM
Aug 2019

He may not be a Democrat, but surely he must see the value of being anti-trump. Time for his vanity play to end.

Please end it now, Senator Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Skittles

(171,704 posts)
13. makes more sense than saying Beto should withdraw
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:06 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sprinkleeninow

(22,343 posts)
3. This comment, if upheld, will frost many, IMNSHO.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:30 AM
Aug 2019

It already has me chapped.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(110,260 posts)
4. And yet we're supposed to support HIM if HE's the winner? n/t
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:33 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(319,067 posts)
5. Sorry, BS.. Many people say there are much better candidates
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:34 AM
Aug 2019

than you. And, potential voters are choosing them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(35,820 posts)
6. Why does this not surprise me!!! How can dem voters support such a divisive candidate?
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:35 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RainCaster

(13,702 posts)
7. Does this site support a candidate turncoat?
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:37 AM
Aug 2019

When will DU put Bernie in the same class as Jill Stine and stop supporting his candidacy?

I'm not pushing for that, I'm genuinely interested in how we operate with not-normal election events.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(35,820 posts)
9. Good question isn't it!
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:42 AM
Aug 2019

This is proof that the only thing he cares about his agenda, not the American people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,148 posts)
21. In a nutshell.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:59 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

msongs

(73,752 posts)
12. one suspects DU terms specify you will support the democratic nominee. BS might just
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:04 AM
Aug 2019

be banned from DU if he does not clearly state he will support the nominee

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dalton99a

(94,109 posts)
8. Some people say there are so many similarities
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:40 AM
Aug 2019



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(29,075 posts)
10. Typical.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 02:59 AM
Aug 2019

Stephanopolous: Is that how you would describe Hillary Clinton against Donald Trump -- as the lesser of two evils?

Sanders: Well, if you look ... . No, I wouldn't describe it, but that's what the American people are saying.

The majority of Hillary's media coverage was negative, more than Trump. If there was the slightest evidence of any rigging, the "corporate media conglomerates" would've pounced, played it up along with the emails and gleefully revealing private emails published by Wikileaks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(319,067 posts)
11. ..
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:03 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
14. Some people say that this is Bernie's last shot at the White House, so...
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:10 AM
Aug 2019

he doesn't care how he gets there.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PJMcK

(25,048 posts)
15. There was a thread the other day...
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:14 AM
Aug 2019

...demanding that DUers commit to supporting the Democratic nominee or they should be banned from DU.

Hey, Bernie! Reconsider your words. Otherwise, you're in the way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
17. Some people say that if he had spent as many years inside the
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:38 AM
Aug 2019

Democratic party as Hillary had, he might have had a bit more say in how the primary process operated. Funny that.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Mike Nelson

(10,943 posts)
18. This kind of talk...
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:39 AM
Aug 2019

... won't help him. Maybe he and his team can change direction... he need to get a majority of Democratic Primary voters to vote for him. Here are some suggestions, Bernie: "We're always looking to improve, but the Democratic primaries are not rigged - look for that with Trump and the Republicans." and, "Of course i will enthusiastically support the Nominee - any of our candidates are clearly better than Trump."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

emmaverybo

(8,148 posts)
23. They could. You just gave them how to. But he'd rather nurse the grudge and take a shot at
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:05 AM
Aug 2019

his perceived nemesis, the Democratic Establishment, publicly, than present himself as a candidate on the merits.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
19. As I predicted the downfall would be epic and pitiful.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 03:49 AM
Aug 2019

The Independent Senator from Vermont is a believer in the scorched earth policy. Who would have thunk that this time would be any different?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skittles

(171,704 posts)
25. yes, it is quite predictable
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:24 AM
Aug 2019

no surprise

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

RandySF

(84,260 posts)
22. It won't work this time.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 04:02 AM
Aug 2019

His die-hards will star with him to the end but he's going to turn others off and lose them to others. He's not the "only" progressive alternative this time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

yuiyoshida

(45,409 posts)
24. This is a disappointment...
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 05:20 AM
Aug 2019

like finding a traitor in your midst ... Anyway, I have no intention of voting for him, UNLESS he is the only choice left. Kamala has my vote.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Hope this gives insight into his character for many.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:33 AM
Aug 2019

The only surprise, perhaps, is that he took this stand so openly so early. Why?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
27. He just lost any chance he may of had
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:33 AM
Aug 2019

And his refusal to support the winner shows he puts himself above the party.he's losing support is why he makes these claims now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
29. We'll see. He's been repeating his behaviors of 2016 all along.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:51 AM
Aug 2019

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This should shake some a bit, those who hear about it. I'm not at all sure many of those who like him realize the grave danger our nation is in. Many imagine this election is about "MfA." A dangerous delusion that Sanders reinforced just this week. Why?

What is his end goal? Does he imagine national collapse under the Republicans facilitating a violent socialist revolution we don't want and won't vote for peacefully? What goes on in his head?

"I am not now, nor have I ever been, a liberal Democrat." ~ Sanders

"There's an old saying in Tennessee,"... I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee that says, 'Fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. Fool me... You can't get fooled again!'" ~ W

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brush

(61,033 posts)
35. It won't work this time. Too many other candidates who will take delegates.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:18 AM
Aug 2019

It's not just him and Hillary so by the South Carolina primary, Super Tuesday and with California moving up shorty after, he'll be in third or fourth place, maybe worst so a repeat of this particular divisiveness won't fly.

It's really disgraceful and graceless that he would even come out with this again.

He's going to bury his own campaign if he keeps this up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AirmensMom

(15,107 posts)
28. OMG ...
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:37 AM
Aug 2019

The last thing we need in the White House is another whiny baby. Time for him to drop out. I voted for him in 2016 and will vote for him if he's our nominee, but I'm really tired of him bashing the Democrats. I hope we are smart enough to vote for a loyal Democrat for our nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
30. One would think that he'd be satisfied that Hillary
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:54 AM
Aug 2019

included his messages as part of the Democrat platform.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
31. Observation that nobody here supporting Sanders chose to defend his remarks
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 06:58 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
32. Observation:
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:13 AM
Aug 2019

A) not a single person in this thread noticed or cared that this piece was from June 26th and already debunked at the time.

B) Bernie didn’t refuse to support the nominee. He refused the hypothetical that he wouldn’t be the nominee. Ask any candidate how they will handle losing and they will do the same thing. “We are in it to win it” wasn’t invented by Bernie.its called not accepting the premise of a question. It’s what candidates do. Had he entertained the question the headline would have been “OMG BERNIE KNOWS HE IS GOING TO LOSE!1!”

C) the tweet regarding “some people say” highlighted in that piece was nonsense and the person who wrote the tweet had to backpedal.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">To be clear Bernie repeated “some people say” after it was first said by the MSNBC interviewer, so he shouldn’t be criticized for using that phrase. <a href="https://t.co/Ki5GmrvkFG">pic.twitter.com/Ki5GmrvkFG</a></p>— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) <a href="


?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 26, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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yardwork

(69,364 posts)
36. Did he say "maybe if the system wasn't rigged against me" or not?
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:22 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Rstrstx

(1,648 posts)
33. Ok I'm not Bernie's Number One fan but this was from June 26
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:17 AM
Aug 2019

Aside from being nearly two months old the title is misleading, I watched the clip, he didn't say he would not pledge to support the Democratic nominee, instead he gave the old political deflect and nonanswer. Sure I would have liked an instant "Yes of course" from him, and while his response has been construed a bit in the title I can see where some might consider it an omen that he might take the loss hard again.

The main reason that I'm not a big Bernie fan is not his policies or his personality (which has actually grown on me a bit) it's more about the company he keeps. I especially dislike David Sirota's twisted hit pieces on fellow Democrats. I suspect he doesn't like it much when the tables are turned.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
38. Did Bernie say "maybe if the system wasn't rigged against me?"
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:25 AM
Aug 2019

If he said that phrase - repeating the totally debunked lie that the nomination was stolen from him because "the system" was "rigged" against him - then I think he should drop out.

We have enough problems with the Republicans and the Russians without this.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Rstrstx

(1,648 posts)
42. Is this the first time he's come out and made that accusation?
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:35 AM
Aug 2019

Asking because I honestly don't know the answer. Still a bit curious as to why this is being brought up almost two months later. Among the two main progressive candidates I do think Warren is the better choice.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
44. He made or implied that accusation many times in 2016.
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:43 AM
Aug 2019

Did he say those words in June 2019?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Thekaspervote

(35,820 posts)
43. The things you mentioned, old political deflect, nonanswer, taking the loss hard
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:40 AM
Aug 2019

Are enough for me to want to see him go packing! This is exactly what he did in 2016, and it hurt the Dems. Many have wised up to his ways, but he still has his minions. He needs to give them their marching orders “support the dem nominee!”

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

samnsara

(18,767 posts)
37. if anyone has a right to question the last election, its Hillary..
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:24 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

njhoneybadger

(3,911 posts)
39. Same shit different year
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:31 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

zeusdogmom

(1,141 posts)
40. Is he still complaining about 2016?
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:34 AM
Aug 2019

Some people would say Bernie is a whiny butt - a name my 4 year old had when he was in his normal pre-school whiny stage. But Bernie is a good 70 years older - he should quit the pre-schooler behavior.

i am so tired of Bernie and his cranky old man attitude. Please Bernie, just go away. You will be happier. And so will the rest of us.

If Bernie is the nominee, tRump will win.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
41. Gee, i remember someone else saying this back in '16............
Thu Aug 15, 2019, 07:34 AM
Aug 2019

shitty company, Bernie

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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