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Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 05:27 PM Aug 2019

POLLS SUGGEST SANDERS MAY BE UNDERESTIMATED


Polls suggest Sanders may be underestimated

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/458161-polls-suggest-sanders-may-be-underestimated

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) may be underestimated in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination, according to a flurry of new polling released in the last week.

The polls show Sanders is firmly entrenched in the race’s top tier of candidates with former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) — and that there is some distance between these three candidates and the rest of the field.

“He has the money, the campaign infrastructure and an intense base of supporters,” said one Democratic strategist. “Does he have a tough road to the nomination? Of course, all of the candidates do. But has he been overlooked so far? Absolutely. Out of all the candidates, he is the one you can definitely say is in this for the long haul.”

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POLLS SUGGEST SANDERS MAY BE UNDERESTIMATED (Original Post) Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 OP
soooo... qazplm135 Aug 2019 #1
He was second place last time because only two candidates were running. Autumn Aug 2019 #2
... Quackers Aug 2019 #5
so if there were more candidates he would have been lower than 2nd place JI7 Aug 2019 #27
I agree with this Headline. zentrum Aug 2019 #3
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Aug 2019 #4
He cannot attract new supporters. Period. OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #6
Exactly. Hillary supporters won't support him over Biden, Warren, and several others. pnwmom Aug 2019 #13
Not just that. It's the rubble left behind when a cult of personality collapses. OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #18
Good point! Any of the supporters of other candidates... LiberalFighter Aug 2019 #25
Sanders is the top "second choice" for Biden supporters, thesquanderer Aug 2019 #44
THIS IS LAUGHABLE nt NYMinute Aug 2019 #7
😂 we can do it Aug 2019 #29
Most die hard HRC supporters will NEVER vote for BS Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #8
I voted for BS in 2016, but will not do it in this primary. Chemisse Aug 2019 #11
I supported Hillary and Sanders is definitely not my guy solara Aug 2019 #12
Right. But I can't imagine winning the primaries because Hillary voters won't pick him pnwmom Aug 2019 #15
I dont get it though, Bernie SAID if someone with his ideals ran he wouldnt, Warren ran. Eliot Rosewater Aug 2019 #37
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense, does it? pnwmom Aug 2019 #38
thank you... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #23
Absolute nonsense. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #17
This is about the Primary. OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #26
Read the post I was responding to and then look up the definition of "never" Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #28
Bernie will never ever be the nominee. Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #34
That post was in response to one directly related to your OP. Which is about the Primary. OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #49
I meant in the primaries Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #32
You have a few in the upper echelons of BS' own campaign right now - Turner, Gray, Sirota... George II Aug 2019 #41
They can never explain away this glaring truth nt Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #47
+1 -K&R onetexan Aug 2019 #46
hey undecided Dems... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #9
See post #7 Life_Long_Democrat Aug 2019 #20
That's for sure!! Bernie is our best progressive voice for Democrats. InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #31
$2.70 recurring crazytown Aug 2019 #10
Bernie Sanders is overlooked? ismnotwasm Aug 2019 #14
Sometimes, when you gotta just publish an article... zaj Aug 2019 #16
I voted for Sanders in the primary in 16 Life_Long_Democrat Aug 2019 #19
. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #21
I'm an original Life_Long_Democrat Aug 2019 #22
Seriously!! InAbLuEsTaTe Aug 2019 #33
It's likely but not guaranteed Tiggeroshii Aug 2019 #24
Not likely at all Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #36
I'll hold you too it Tiggeroshii Aug 2019 #42
Well, he's been over-estimating himself for a long time, so it balances. NNadir Aug 2019 #30
Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #40
K&R CentralMass Aug 2019 #35
Polls "suggest" Sanders "may" be underestimated ..... George II Aug 2019 #39
"Polls suggest." Is that like "some people think"...? Wounded Bear Aug 2019 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Fresh_Start Aug 2019 #45
Buffalo Bills were underestimated in Super Bowl XXVII as well. We showed 'em!!!! LanternWaste Aug 2019 #48
 

qazplm135

(7,654 posts)
1. soooo...
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 05:36 PM
Aug 2019

nothing new there. He's in the top three. He is in it for the long haul. And he has a tough path to the nomination.

Not a great place for the guy who was second last time around and has as much name recognition as anyone and raises as much as anyone.

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Autumn

(48,962 posts)
2. He was second place last time because only two candidates were running.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 05:38 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

JI7

(93,618 posts)
27. so if there were more candidates he would have been lower than 2nd place
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:19 PM
Aug 2019
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zentrum

(9,870 posts)
3. I agree with this Headline.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 05:40 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Uncle Joe

(65,140 posts)
4. Kicked and recommended
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 05:45 PM
Aug 2019

Thanks for the thread Hassin Bin Sober.

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OilemFirchen

(7,288 posts)
6. He cannot attract new supporters. Period.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 05:57 PM
Aug 2019

His base is about half of what it was in 2016. That's his constituency, and it's reflected in the polls. His numbers can only shrink from this point on.

It's silly to opine otherwise.

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Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
13. Exactly. Hillary supporters won't support him over Biden, Warren, and several others.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:28 PM
Aug 2019

And whoever wins is going to need a lot of former Hillary votes.

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OilemFirchen

(7,288 posts)
18. Not just that. It's the rubble left behind when a cult of personality collapses.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:41 PM
Aug 2019

Now that Sen. Sanders has turned his campaign into a petty grudge match, many of his ardent fans have turned on him - some rather ferociously. The harder they fall, and all that.

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LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
25. Good point! Any of the supporters of other candidates...
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:13 PM
Aug 2019

are not likely to switch to him.

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thesquanderer

(13,006 posts)
44. Sanders is the top "second choice" for Biden supporters,
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 06:32 AM
Aug 2019
according to Morning Consult.

So if anything happens that derails Biden's campaign, Sanders is currently best positioned to pick up switchers.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
7. THIS IS LAUGHABLE nt
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 05:58 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Vegas Roller

(704 posts)
8. Most die hard HRC supporters will NEVER vote for BS
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 06:00 PM
Aug 2019

Which is a majority of Democrats.

QED

PS - Also a puff piece by two of David Sirota's buddies.

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Chemisse

(31,348 posts)
11. I voted for BS in 2016, but will not do it in this primary.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:17 PM
Aug 2019

Times change and people change.

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solara

(3,894 posts)
12. I supported Hillary and Sanders is definitely not my guy
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:21 PM
Aug 2019

But if he becomes our candidate I will certainly vote for him. I am committed to Vote Blue No Matter Who - anything less than that is dangerous and fool-hardy. We absolutely must vote trump OUT of office and that means letting go of the past in order to do what's right and necessary.

VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO

This election is not normal in any way.

We cannot do the same things we have always done and expect to win.

We must win. There is no alternative.

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pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
15. Right. But I can't imagine winning the primaries because Hillary voters won't pick him
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:29 PM
Aug 2019

over one of many others

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Eliot Rosewater

(34,285 posts)
37. I dont get it though, Bernie SAID if someone with his ideals ran he wouldnt, Warren ran.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:57 PM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
38. Yeah, that doesn't make any sense, does it?
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 09:33 PM
Aug 2019

I'd love to know how many Sanders people switched to Warren. I know a bunch of them among my friends and family.

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myohmy2

(3,721 posts)
23. thank you...
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:59 PM
Aug 2019

...I was a strong Bernie supporter in 2016...

...I looked the other way and became a strong Hillary supporter...

...even the most undesirable Dem is still head and shoulders above a republican...

...republicans are just plain evil...

" VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO "

...it's self-defense...

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Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
17. Absolute nonsense.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:40 PM
Aug 2019

The diehard types that wouldn’t vote for the nominee over trump aren’t anywhere near a majority. There is probably a small percentage LIKE THERE IS IN EVERY CYCLE but nowhere near significant.

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Undecided
 

OilemFirchen

(7,288 posts)
26. This is about the Primary.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:16 PM
Aug 2019

I heartily recommend you read your own fucking OP.

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Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
28. Read the post I was responding to and then look up the definition of "never"
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:19 PM
Aug 2019
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Vegas Roller

(704 posts)
34. Bernie will never ever be the nominee.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:46 PM
Aug 2019

Accept it and find peace.

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OilemFirchen

(7,288 posts)
49. That post was in response to one directly related to your OP. Which is about the Primary.
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 02:36 PM
Aug 2019

Your assertion is a knee-jerk reaction to something that poster never implied. Evidenced, of course, by that poster's responses downthread.

BTW, it's against the rules for anyone here to state that they won't vote for the eventual nominee. If you truly believe the nonsense you spouted, I suggest alerting on the offending post.

Good luck.

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Vegas Roller

(704 posts)
32. I meant in the primaries
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:45 PM
Aug 2019

BS has ZERO chance of becoming the nominee because he has pissed off a lot of loyal Democrats with his shenanigans and his absolutely horrible record of hiring Jill Stein supporters.

Bernie is finished. Live with it.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
41. You have a few in the upper echelons of BS' own campaign right now - Turner, Gray, Sirota...
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 12:18 AM
Aug 2019

...and top surrogates Sarandon and West. All voted for Jill Stein.

Let's hope they don't do it again next year and vote against our nominee.

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Vegas Roller

(704 posts)
47. They can never explain away this glaring truth nt
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:33 AM
Aug 2019
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onetexan

(13,913 posts)
46. +1 -K&R
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:06 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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myohmy2

(3,721 posts)
9. hey undecided Dems...
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 06:19 PM
Aug 2019

...are you listening?

...Bernie's your man...you can't do better than the best...

...Bernie will carry the Progressive banner all the way to the White House and stomp trump's ass in the process...for the first time in generations we have a real opportunity to solve our nation's problems on behalf of the American people...

...not since FDR has things looked so good...not since FDR has the 1% been sweating the outcome of an election...not since FDR have the American people had such HOPE...keep the faith...

...think President Sanders...

...

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InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,518 posts)
31. That's for sure!! Bernie is our best progressive voice for Democrats.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:44 PM
Aug 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
10. $2.70 recurring
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 06:33 PM
Aug 2019

Next offer 7/13/2020

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ismnotwasm

(42,674 posts)
14. Bernie Sanders is overlooked?
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:28 PM
Aug 2019

How is this possible?

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zaj

(3,433 posts)
16. Sometimes, when you gotta just publish an article...
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:37 PM
Aug 2019

...writing about being stuck in 3rd place won't cut it.

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19. I voted for Sanders in the primary in 16
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:44 PM
Aug 2019

I regretted doing so within 48 hours. His supporters and surrogates on TV got so nasty it just turned me off.

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Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
21. .
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 07:48 PM
Aug 2019


Well there’s one I’ve never heard before.
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InAbLuEsTaTe

(25,518 posts)
33. Seriously!!
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:45 PM
Aug 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
24. It's likely but not guaranteed
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:00 PM
Aug 2019

Time will tell!

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Vegas Roller

(704 posts)
36. Not likely at all
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:49 PM
Aug 2019

I'll eat a crow on live TV if BS is the nominee.

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Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
42. I'll hold you too it
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 01:58 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NNadir

(38,051 posts)
30. Well, he's been over-estimating himself for a long time, so it balances.
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 08:22 PM
Aug 2019

As I recall, in 2016, he sat around and sulked because he was perfect and was "robbed" because people didn't vote for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to NNadir (Reply #30)

 

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. Polls "suggest" Sanders "may" be underestimated .....
Wed Aug 21, 2019, 11:27 PM
Aug 2019

That's a double equivocation on the part of the author.



If I were to vote in a presidential
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Wounded Bear

(64,328 posts)
43. "Polls suggest." Is that like "some people think"...?
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 05:59 AM
Aug 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Original post)

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
48. Buffalo Bills were underestimated in Super Bowl XXVII as well. We showed 'em!!!!
Thu Aug 22, 2019, 09:51 AM
Aug 2019

I'll be... so polls finally mean something. I'm guessing it's merely a coinky-dinky they mean something only when they validate your guy.

Otherwise, we hear the cries of "polls don't mean anything this early!!!!" "flawed methodology!!!!" "margins of error!!!!"

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