from MSNBC this morning it is clear: #ButHisGaffes are the new #ButHerEmails

[EveHammond13]

the lazy stupid story the media can press to give the false equivalency they crave, without doing much work or putting in much effort.

Andrea Mitchell had on several guests who said (1) trump's "gaffes" are 100x worse, (2) with all that is happening, voters don't care about gaffes, and (3) in some cases Biden's gaffes are endearing and improve reliability.

Both Mitchell and Chris Jansing had the same response: Huh. OK LET'S SPEND ANOTHER 30 MINUTES ON THIS ONE BIDEN GAFFE.

Meanwhile, trump raped his wife, raped a respected reporter in a Bergdorf's dressing room, and raped a whole bunch of other women. Not going to talk about that! No siree!

[calimary]

1. Oh I'm sure ol' Andrea is salivating!

No fun not having Hillary to kick around anymore? We can ALWAYS go pick on another Democrat then. Right, Andrea?

[PatrickforO]

2. Corporate owned media.

They report it like their owners want them to.

[KPN]

16. Yup.

[madaboutharry]

3. I think the whole "gaff" thing is going to peter out.

People don't care. Democrats like Joe Biden and they see the gaffs as part of his personality.

The public will shut this bullshit down and not give it traction.

The difference with "But her emails" is that as capable and smart as Hillary is, she never had endeared herself to the democratic base the way that Joe Biden has.

I am not worried about Biden getting past this. He will be fine. I actually have begun think that he is going to win this thing.

[dchill]

4. They will be so dismayed when Trump gets another...

...term that they helped him steal.

[BeyondGeography]

5. Biden's facts-don't-matter reaction to this story is a disaster that no Democrat should defend

It’s a ticket that Trump will punch every time we call him out if Biden is the nominee. If you’re into unilateral political disarmament, hooray for you.

[redstateblues]

6. Biden will win back the rust belt states. Warren-maybe not

The gaffes are used by those of you who are trying to elevate your candidate by bashing Biden. It won't work. It may actually have the reverse effect.

[BeyondGeography]

8. This isn't about gaffes and who wins the rust belt states

It’s about owning up to your mistakes and respecting the truth. Try not to be so wedded to YOUR candidate that you can’t spot obvious problems.

[emmaverybo]

30. The high-minded stuff does not work. Gaffes give limited room from which to extrapolate global

short-comings.

And when supporters of good candidates try to magnify simple, and long known, Biden public speaking flaws into huge character failings with dire warnings attached, I wonder that they are not making the case that their candidate has superior job-specific qualifications, knowledge, or experience.

But then I remember that they can’t make such a case, so they fall back on gaffes, imperfect memory, old-fashioned language, old age...

[peggysue2]

33. Exactly, emmaverybo

Because the simple truth is this: the most qualified, experienced and knowledgeable candidate is:

Joe Biden.

There is no argument to that because Biden has a long, distinguished legislative career, executive experience as Vice President for 8 years and has significant, hands-on foreign policy experience that none of the other candidates have.

None.

Biden is uniquely qualified to assume the Office of the Presidency. That's the thorn in everyone's side.

And so the complaints come down to speaking flaws and age-related 'concerns,' while both Sanders and Warren are in their 70s.

Slight disconnect, methinks. And a whole bunch of sour grapes.

[emmaverybo]

39. A simple truth so well and succinctly put that this post should, if fair-mindedness prevailed, put

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to rest the whole petty line of argument used thus far to raise doubts about Biden’s candidacy.

Bookmarked.

[peggysue2]

40. Thank you, Ma'm!

[redstateblues]

34. You are wrong about the rust belt. I couldn't care less about his gaffes.

Joe is connecting with people. The gaffes are only a problem for the folks that are focused on them. Your candidate needs to be concerned about her weakness with POC. So far she hasn’t had a successful plan for that

[Skya Rhen]

11. You nailed it!

[True Blue American]

7. Every MSNBC show opened with the same story.

Walter Isaacson let Joe know what he thought about Biden and that he did not glorify himself.

I turned over to CNN, Bill Krystal was saying the same thing about what a good man Joe is.

Then ran my errands, came back, flipped it on, same opening.

They have cancelled Donny Deutsche who was forced to use the same old day time panelists.

I am reading a new Rhys Bowen book, listening to Country music. Blueberry Hill!

[BeyondGeography]

9. I'm reading France in the World

907 freaking pages. Short essays though and lots of note pages so that helps. Henry IV just got his throat cut.

[treestar]

32. facts don't matter is not what he is doing

Orange Useless is the one for whom facts don't matter.

[TeamPooka]

10. CNN, my local Los Angeles news and MSNBC were all covering the story at the same time earlier

I kept switching channels to avoid the bullshit but it was everywhere.

[FloridaBlues]

12. Yes the pundits are doing their best. Let's hope it doesn't work this time around.

[NYMinute]

13. Andrea Mitchell needs to retire nt

[Meadowoak]

14. And spend more time at home with Alan Greenspan....yuk.

[KPN]

17. I agree. She should have long ago.

[Voltaire2]

15. perhaps a less flawed candidate would be a better choice.

When the sales pitch is that he is the most electable, shit like this doesn't back that up.

[emmaverybo]

31. Easily most qualified in all areas and duties of the office. Also, one of the most well-liked and

respected politicians in America. And then there’s that foreign policy thing:

Snip—————————————————

World leaders tell Biden: We need you
The former vice president would bring deep relationships and heavyweight credentials to a 2020 Democratic field lacking in national security experience.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/20/biden-2020-foreign-policy-national-security-1228345

[CDerekGo]

18. First time one of my GOP Relatives makes #ButHisGaffes remark

to me, my response will only be "ELEVEN THOUSAND DOCUMENTED LIES" and walk the other way

[brooklynite]

19. If that's your theory, who do they want to win?

[AtheistCrusader]

20. It seems to me, that Biden's opponent in the primaries is not yet the President.

His opponents are the other primary challengers.


It only makes sense to compare Biden's gaffes, to Trump's, if you assume Biden is the nominee. (Bit early)
That said, Biden does compare favorably, so much so that Trump's glitches aren't even newsworthy.

[SCVDem]

22. tRump has no gaffes!

tRump has bald-faced lies and good old fashioned bullshit!

[AtheistCrusader]

24. Fair point. With his volume of lies, it's impossible to gauge what might be an honest mistake.

[SCVDem]

29. That's the only way you get

tRump and honest in the same sentence!

[Cha]

21. I suspect the m$$$media that brought

us trump would do that to any Dem front runner.. am I wrong?

[Tarheel_Dem]

25. You're not wrong. They love Donald Trump despite what he's doing to the country and the globe.

They love that they can start every newscast off with the latest ridiculous tweet, or bald faced lie. They don't have to do much leg work with this pResident, other than replay soundbite after soundbite to fill up a 24 hour news cycle. I think they believe a Dem POTUS would be boring compared to Trump, and some of these loathsome talking heads might find themselves out of work.

[Cha]

26. I've long thought, since 2002, that

the US media was the enemy of the state.. that's when I cancelled them. But I know from reading on DU that they've only gotten exponentially worse.

Good post descriptive post of the "media******", Tarheel.. Thank You!

[a kennedy]

23. I could be wrong, but the talking heads are also saying that the gaffes aren't bothering the common

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folks.....at least for now.

[Thekaspervote]

27. This!!

[peggysue2]

41. Because the 'common folk' . . .

can see through the nonsense.

[NoMoreRepugs]

28. Andrea - look out the window to see if it's raining - don't take someones word for it.

[loyalsister]

35. Both are unforced mistakes that provide ammunition

and open the door for speculation and suspicion. Fortunately, we have better choices this time around.

[highplainsdem]

36. Morning Joe handled it much better, with Gene Robinson, Walter Isaacson and Scarborough defending

Biden and saying they've done the same thing themselves:


https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287259936

[EveHammond13]

37. +1

[Gothmog]

38. So far this is not hurting Biden

Link to tweet