
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 05:05 PM
BeyondGeography (38,560 posts)
Biden settles the electability debate once and for all
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
92 replies, 7350 views
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Author | Time | Post |
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BeyondGeography | Aug 2019 | OP |
DrToast | Aug 2019 | #1 | |
bluewater | Aug 2019 | #2 | |
Thekaspervote | Aug 2019 | #6 | |
bluewater | Aug 2019 | #9 | |
Thekaspervote | Aug 2019 | #10 | |
TwilightZone | Aug 2019 | #7 | |
bluewater | Aug 2019 | #11 | |
Thekaspervote | Aug 2019 | #12 | |
treestar | Aug 2019 | #34 | |
bluewater | Aug 2019 | #38 | |
Thekaspervote | Aug 2019 | #51 | |
bluewater | Aug 2019 | #63 | |
Thekaspervote | Aug 2019 | #70 | |
HeartlandProgressive | Aug 2019 | #84 | |
TwilightZone | Aug 2019 | #71 | |
OilemFirchen | Aug 2019 | #31 | |
bluewater | Aug 2019 | #32 | |
OilemFirchen | Aug 2019 | #33 | |
MrsCoffee | Aug 2019 | #81 | |
Cha | Aug 2019 | #40 | |
cwydro | Aug 2019 | #3 | |
Mr.Bill | Aug 2019 | #4 | |
TwilightZone | Aug 2019 | #8 | |
Mr.Bill | Aug 2019 | #21 | |
Otto Lidenbrock | Aug 2019 | #48 | |
Mr.Bill | Aug 2019 | #57 | |
Eliot Rosewater | Aug 2019 | #26 | |
Thekaspervote | Aug 2019 | #53 | |
Thekaspervote | Aug 2019 | #5 | |
BeyondGeography | Aug 2019 | #13 | |
Thekaspervote | Aug 2019 | #16 | |
bluewater | Aug 2019 | #30 | |
KPN | Aug 2019 | #45 | |
Andy823 | Aug 2019 | #20 | |
BeyondGeography | Aug 2019 | #24 | |
bluewater | Aug 2019 | #27 | |
Cha | Aug 2019 | #39 | |
Thekaspervote | Aug 2019 | #41 | |
Cha | Aug 2019 | #43 | |
Thekaspervote | Aug 2019 | #54 | |
Andy823 | Aug 2019 | #61 | |
Cha | Aug 2019 | #62 | |
Andy823 | Aug 2019 | #67 | |
Cha | Aug 2019 | #68 | |
bluewater | Aug 2019 | #14 | |
Chemisse | Aug 2019 | #19 | |
Bradshaw3 | Aug 2019 | #25 | |
Eliot Rosewater | Aug 2019 | #29 | |
Thekaspervote | Aug 2019 | #42 | |
progressoid | Aug 2019 | #15 | |
FakeNoose | Aug 2019 | #17 | |
JI7 | Aug 2019 | #18 | |
SCVDem | Aug 2019 | #22 | |
Thekaspervote | Aug 2019 | #44 | |
JI7 | Aug 2019 | #23 | |
SWBTATTReg | Aug 2019 | #28 | |
treestar | Aug 2019 | #35 | |
BeyondGeography | Aug 2019 | #55 | |
bluewater | Aug 2019 | #56 | |
BeyondGeography | Aug 2019 | #60 | |
treestar | Aug 2019 | #79 | |
BeyondGeography | Aug 2019 | #80 | |
MrsCoffee | Aug 2019 | #82 | |
treestar | Aug 2019 | #83 | |
BeyondGeography | Aug 2019 | #87 | |
treestar | Aug 2019 | #89 | |
HeartlandProgressive | Aug 2019 | #86 | |
NYMinute | Aug 2019 | #36 | |
Cha | Aug 2019 | #37 | |
Thekaspervote | Aug 2019 | #46 | |
Cha | Aug 2019 | #49 | |
AlexSFCA | Aug 2019 | #47 | |
Thekaspervote | Aug 2019 | #52 | |
peggysue2 | Aug 2019 | #50 | |
bluewater | Aug 2019 | #58 | |
Cha | Aug 2019 | #66 | |
redstateblues | Aug 2019 | #59 | |
highplainsdem | Aug 2019 | #64 | |
Thekaspervote | Aug 2019 | #65 | |
Cha | Aug 2019 | #74 | |
DanTex | Aug 2019 | #69 | |
quickesst | Aug 2019 | #72 | |
Cha | Aug 2019 | #73 | |
quickesst | Aug 2019 | #75 | |
Cha | Aug 2019 | #76 | |
elocs | Aug 2019 | #77 | |
HeartlandProgressive | Aug 2019 | #85 | |
elocs | Aug 2019 | #88 | |
marlakay | Aug 2019 | #78 | |
andym | Aug 2019 | #91 | |
colsohlibgal | Aug 2019 | #90 | |
andym | Aug 2019 | #92 |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 05:17 PM
DrToast (6,414 posts)
1. LOL....is this a gaffe?
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to DrToast (Reply #1)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 05:34 PM
bluewater (5,376 posts)
2. A "gaffe": when a politician tells the truth
Last edited Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:34 PM - Edit history (2) Michael Kinsley: “It used to be, there was truth and there was falsehood. Now there is spin and there are gaffes. Spin is often thought to be synonymous with falsehood or lying, but more accurately it is indifference to the truth. A politician engaged in spin is saying what he or she wishes were true, and sometimes, by coincidence, it is. Meanwhile, a gaffe, it has been said, is when a politician tells the truth — or more precisely, when he or she accidentally reveals something truthful about what is going on in his or her head. A gaffe is what happens when the spin breaks down.”
![]() It's an old political joke, that a gaffe is when a politician drops the spin and inadvertently tells the truth. But seriously, this must have driven his Campaign Staff crazy when they heard he said this. Electability is supposed to be the cornerstone of Joe's entire campaign. ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to bluewater (Reply #2)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 05:56 PM
Thekaspervote (29,103 posts)
6. Meh
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #6)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:02 PM
bluewater (5,376 posts)
9. It's not wishful thinking when Joe says just about anyone can beat Trump.
Since Joe Biden is the current front runner, no one can accuse him of wishful thinking when he says just about anyone of our candidates can beat Trump.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to bluewater (Reply #9)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:03 PM
Thekaspervote (29,103 posts)
10. Meh
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to bluewater (Reply #2)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 05:59 PM
TwilightZone (21,589 posts)
7. That's an interesting assertion.
He's saying that anyone on the Democratic side can beat Trump.
You think that's a gaffe? It's reality. You're trying waaaay too hard. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to TwilightZone (Reply #7)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:05 PM
bluewater (5,376 posts)
11. It is an old political joke: ie a gaffe is when a politician tells the truth.
I believe Joe Biden was telling the truth when he said just about any of our candidates can beat Trump.
![]() That undermines the electability argument his Campaign was making, but it is true never-the-less. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to bluewater (Reply #11)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:09 PM
Thekaspervote (29,103 posts)
12. Meh
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to bluewater (Reply #11)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:52 PM
treestar (81,151 posts)
34. Then er, his mistakes are not gaffes
as they aren't the truth.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to treestar (Reply #34)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:01 PM
bluewater (5,376 posts)
38. more like verbal blunders and memory lapses
the media over uses the word "gaffe" when they should be more direct and honest at times.
But, you did catch the part that said it's an old political joke to call it a gaffe when a politician inadvertently tells the truth? Gaffe is defined seriously as: an unintentional act or remark causing embarrassment to its originator; a blunder. ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to bluewater (Reply #38)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:22 PM
Thekaspervote (29,103 posts)
51. You should look at post #3, 23 & 28....still think your negative comments are convincing voters?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #51)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:18 PM
bluewater (5,376 posts)
63. You should look at post #20,24,55,60.. still think personal comments are convincing voters?
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to bluewater (Reply #63)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 09:22 PM
Thekaspervote (29,103 posts)
70. Looked.. no ...negative comments do not win over voters
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #70)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 10:49 AM
HeartlandProgressive (294 posts)
84. then why not stop?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to bluewater (Reply #63)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 09:25 PM
TwilightZone (21,589 posts)
71. Aggressive negativity isn't going to win anyone over.
I would have thought everyone figured that out in 2016. But, alas, no.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to bluewater (Reply #2)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:49 PM
OilemFirchen (6,915 posts)
31. Is Senator Warren a gaffe machine?
Or is she generally "indifferent to the truth"?
Perhaps you should read your quotes more carefully. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to OilemFirchen (Reply #31)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:49 PM
bluewater (5,376 posts)
32. Non Sequitur?
Back to the topic of the OP....
Link to tweet Let's all salute Joe Biden for stating the truth, that all our Democratic candidates can defeat Trump. ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to bluewater (Reply #32)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:52 PM
OilemFirchen (6,915 posts)
33. OMG!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to bluewater (Reply #2)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 10:00 AM
MrsCoffee (5,587 posts)
81. No, his campaign staff isn't gonna sweat Joe being a decent human being.
Not gonna happen. He has proven he doesn’t need to take the low road.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to DrToast (Reply #1)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:03 PM
Cha (283,895 posts)
40. LOL.. the truth.
Joe Biden is country and planet over ego.. one of the many reasons I support him.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 05:37 PM
cwydro (49,032 posts)
3. This is why I love Biden!
He’s no longer my first choice, but he’s a damn close second.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 05:44 PM
Mr.Bill (20,195 posts)
4. That comment is directed
to Trump more than other Democratic candidates.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #4)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:01 PM
TwilightZone (21,589 posts)
8. Agreed.
The interpretations of the claim in that thread are certainly...creative.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to TwilightZone (Reply #8)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:29 PM
Mr.Bill (20,195 posts)
21. I would have stated it differently.
I would have said if Bullwinkle the moose were on the ballot he would beat Trump.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #21)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:21 PM
Otto Lidenbrock (581 posts)
48. People would say he was insulting Hillary if he did that
I can see the headlines now:
Biden slams Hillary Clinton by suggesting a moose would have been a better candidate in 2016 ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Otto Lidenbrock (Reply #48)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:39 PM
Mr.Bill (20,195 posts)
57. That would be incorrect.
We are talking about 2020 Trump, not 2016 Trump. A good number of people who voted for him then didn't realize what the next four years were going to be like.
I have to keep reminding myself that the vast majority of voters are and were far less informed than we are here. They are more informed about Trump now, though. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #4)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:44 PM
Eliot Rosewater (30,154 posts)
26. And his comment I hope would be said by ALL Of our candidates, because there is a very
real strategic reason for saying it.
Joe may forget dates and places sometimes but he wont forget that he worked for a great man and rump is a filthy fucking piece of shit traitor. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #26)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:25 PM
Thekaspervote (29,103 posts)
53. Indeed!!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 05:55 PM
Thekaspervote (29,103 posts)
5. Thx for posting! This shows mr. Biden's love of country and sense of duty. He's in it to win, but
Simply stating if it isn’t me then, one of our other fine candidates will.
Go Joe go!!! We’ve got your back! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #5)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:10 PM
BeyondGeography (38,560 posts)
13. My pleasure
I happen to agree with him. Literally.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #13)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:12 PM
Thekaspervote (29,103 posts)
16. Me too!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #16)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:46 PM
bluewater (5,376 posts)
30. Meh
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to bluewater (Reply #30)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:16 PM
KPN (14,689 posts)
45. ....
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #13)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:25 PM
Andy823 (11,478 posts)
20. I agree with him also
Even though I get told here on DU that Biden is the "only" one who can beat trump, and we are doomed if he isn't the nominee.
I wonder if that will change no that Joe has said himself others can beat trump also? ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Andy823 (Reply #20)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:42 PM
BeyondGeography (38,560 posts)
24. Highly doubtful
But this will serve as a handy rebuttal.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #24)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:45 PM
bluewater (5,376 posts)
27. bookmarked.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Andy823 (Reply #20)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:02 PM
Cha (283,895 posts)
39. Well.. once again I don't tell you that and
I support Joe Biden. He's a Uniter.. he will support the nominee if it's not him and work hard for the Nom.
One of the many reasons I support him ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #39)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:05 PM
Thekaspervote (29,103 posts)
41. This!! We need his leadership, focus and experience
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #41)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:09 PM
Cha (283,895 posts)
43. Mahalo, kasper!
We do! But if it's not Biden he will ".. break his neck working for the nominee.." That's paraphrase from a Biden quote. Biden talk!
![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #43)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:27 PM
Thekaspervote (29,103 posts)
54. Hey Cha ... Maloha to you... "It's Biden speak" at its best
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #39)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:07 PM
Andy823 (11,478 posts)
61. I never said you did Cha
but others say it all the time. I like Joe and I will vote for him if he is the nominee, I will vote for whoever is the nominee. I have said many times that we have a great bunch of candidates, and that we have more the one who can beat trump.
I don't have any problems with supporters of other candidates and I never will. The trolls I have a problem with. We had them with Hillary, trying to cause problems and we have them now trying to take down Biden, Harris, and Warren, and others if they gain momentum. It's going to be a long primary. ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Andy823 (Reply #61)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:13 PM
Cha (283,895 posts)
62. I know.. maybe I worded that wrong..
but logically no one knows who's going to be the Nom at this point.
I just know that if it's not Biden he will bow out gracefully and not keep running when he knows he can't win. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #62)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:34 PM
Andy823 (11,478 posts)
67. Yes I know he will
He is a great man and he would never be a sore loser. I also think that the three women in the top tier will also bow out gracefully, not really sure about Bernie, but I hope he does also. They all have to back the nominee and do everything they can to get trump out of office.
My son is 25, he likes Warren, but he said he would back any of our candidates because in the long run we can't let trump win! I totally agree with him. Take care Cha. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Andy823 (Reply #67)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:52 PM
Cha (283,895 posts)
68. You son is wicked smart!
You, too, Andy!:grouphhug:
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #5)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:11 PM
bluewater (5,376 posts)
14. Biden deserves credit for stating the truth, our Democratic candidates can beat Trump.
![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #5)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:18 PM
Chemisse (30,540 posts)
19. That's what I love about Joe Biden.
He's a good and honorable man.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #5)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:42 PM
Bradshaw3 (6,889 posts)
25. Meh
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #5)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:45 PM
Eliot Rosewater (30,154 posts)
29. Exactly...Hey, I didnt want Joe to run. But I knew if he did he would DO THE RIGHT THING
when necessary.
And that may end up being to win or to do whatever, but I have NO DOUBT he wont FUCK with us to massage his ego! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #29)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:06 PM
Thekaspervote (29,103 posts)
42. Exactly!!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:12 PM
progressoid (47,948 posts)
15. Ha! They taped a Biden poster on the computer monitor.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to progressoid (Reply #15)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:17 PM
FakeNoose (28,378 posts)
17. Yeah, many dead trees paid with their lives for that poster
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:17 PM
JI7 (87,736 posts)
18. Biden wants Democrats to win most of all unlike some people
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:32 PM
SCVDem (5,103 posts)
22. Maybe you have heard this.
When they go low,
Joe stays high. It sounds like some here really want ugly, divisive shit slinging type of a campaign. Biden will not abide! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to SCVDem (Reply #22)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:12 PM
Thekaspervote (29,103 posts)
44. Showing a bit isn't it!! why don't they say + things about their candidate of choice instead of
Negatives about others. It doesn’t convince anyone to switch...or help their candidate.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:39 PM
JI7 (87,736 posts)
23. Biden is higher on my list of choices than before
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:45 PM
SWBTATTReg (19,515 posts)
28. This answer was really directed at rump, after all, what other answer would make rump mad?...
this one answer, all of the democratic nominees...
Ha ha heh...my opinion of Biden has gone up a lot after this answer of his... ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:53 PM
treestar (81,151 posts)
35. Good for him not claiming to be the only one
who can beat Dotard and not dissing other Democrats in the form of saying they can't beat him.
This is supposed to be a bad thing? ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to treestar (Reply #35)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:27 PM
BeyondGeography (38,560 posts)
55. Ask his staff
Think they sent him out there this morning to tell WaPo that just about any ole Dem can take Trump?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #55)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:38 PM
bluewater (5,376 posts)
56. His Campaign staff must be proud of his honesty and graciousness.
For former Vice President Joe Biden, the 2020 presidential campaign has been focused primarily on one question: Who is best to beat President Donald Trump?
His campaign's answer: Joe Biden is. But, in an interview for a podcast with the Washington Post's Jonathan Capehart, Biden seemed on the verge of undermining his own camp's argument in favor of his electability relative to the rest of the 2020 Democratic primary field. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/08/30/joe-biden-i-think-almost-anybody-could-beat-donald-trump-2020/2168099001/ It takes a big man to contradict his own campaign's cornerstone argument. ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to bluewater (Reply #56)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:02 PM
BeyondGeography (38,560 posts)
60. There ya go
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #55)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 09:44 AM
treestar (81,151 posts)
79. i think he decides what he is going to say
which explains the "gaffes." He speaks off the cuff, from the heart. Not over prepared or wooden or all that stuff.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to treestar (Reply #79)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 09:57 AM
BeyondGeography (38,560 posts)
80. I think he has no idea what he is going to say
If you read the transcript this was something he volunteered. Capehart asked a follow-up. So the week after Jill is sent out to deliver an eat-your-peas and vote for Joe because he’s the one who can win, Biden himself is saying most anyone can win. That’s the mark of a haphazard campaign which is what always happens with Biden.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #80)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 10:07 AM
MrsCoffee (5,587 posts)
82. It's the mark of a decent guy who isn't afraid of the competition.
The question was begging to be followed up by questions about why the other candidates can’t beat Trump. Why on earth put those sound bytes out there for Trump to use like he used Bernie’s sound bytes against Clinton?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #80)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 10:13 AM
treestar (81,151 posts)
83. How should he know what is going too be asked?
It would be said the DNC is rigging it for him if he was handed the questions before hand.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to treestar (Reply #83)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 11:25 AM
BeyondGeography (38,560 posts)
87. Hello, he wasn't directly asked if anyone else could beat Trump, he VOLUNTEERED it
This is the question he was responding to:
CAPEHART: Old school against old school. What do you think about that?
He went there all on his own and made it the headline of the interview because what he said was at odds with all of his campaign’s electability messaging to date. That what an undisciplined candidate does. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #87)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 12:44 PM
treestar (81,151 posts)
89. well so, what was wrong with his saying that?
He isn't a trained dog.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #80)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 10:53 AM
HeartlandProgressive (294 posts)
86. Joe did bring up who else was electable all on his own
It was not a direct question that he had to answer
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:59 PM
NYMinute (3,256 posts)
36. Such a gracious guy .. he didn't put other Democrats down. nt
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 06:59 PM
Cha (283,895 posts)
37. Biden is not one of those who says..
"..“I intend to be the Democratic nominee,.."
![]() Biden is a Uniter. If he's not winning he will support wholeheartedly whomever the winner is. That's just one reason I support Joe Biden. Country and Planet over ego ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #37)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:17 PM
Thekaspervote (29,103 posts)
46. Indeed he is a uniter...with that kind of public statement his message shines thru
It gives me hope that not all is lost.
Go Joe go!! We’ve got your back!! ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #46)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:21 PM
Cha (283,895 posts)
49. Yes! I think this only
makes people want to support him more!
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:18 PM
AlexSFCA (6,086 posts)
47. Does gaffe simply means speaking his mind unscripted?
If so, it could be the single most important quality against trump.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #47)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:23 PM
Thekaspervote (29,103 posts)
52. Could be.. interesting point!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:22 PM
peggysue2 (9,769 posts)
50. An example of Joe Biden's graciousness
And his loyal support of all our Democratic candidates. This will be the fight of our lifetimes. Biden knows that and will not dismiss anyone for the 2020 election. Nor will he give Trump anything to hang his hat on.
AGO4JOE2020 ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to peggysue2 (Reply #50)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:47 PM
bluewater (5,376 posts)
58. And honesty!
I believe Joe when he says almost any of our Democratic candidates would defeat Trump.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to peggysue2 (Reply #50)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:33 PM
Cha (283,895 posts)
66. "Nor will he give Trump anything to hang his hat on."
Like some others have done.. very ungraciously.. but Joe Biden keeps on going Forward!
Mahalo, Peggysue! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 07:58 PM
redstateblues (10,559 posts)
59. Problem is you gotta win the nomination first. So far Joe is standing strong!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:18 PM
highplainsdem (43,165 posts)
64. Biden is very gracious. Another reason to admire him.
He's also a team player who will work his heart out for the nominee, if he doesn't get the nomination himself.
We need more people like him. And we're very, very fortunate he's running. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to highplainsdem (Reply #64)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 08:24 PM
Thekaspervote (29,103 posts)
65. Yes, we are fortunate.. his positive attitude and nature is contagious, as shown by most of the
Comments here!
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to highplainsdem (Reply #64)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 01:18 AM
Cha (283,895 posts)
74. Yes, Joe Biden is a Gracious TEAM Player.. just
what I want in a President! Country and Planet Over Ego
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 09:12 PM
DanTex (20,709 posts)
69. Good for him! Is this supposed to reflect poorly on Biden?
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Fri Aug 30, 2019, 11:59 PM
quickesst (6,247 posts)
72. the funniest part of all this....
.... is that there are polls all over the media which clearly shows numerous candidates who on a head-to-head basis today would beat Trump. I think Joe's statement was a friendly overture to his fellow candidates, and reflects the positive and honest attitude of a gracious and caring person. For all of those people who continue to pretend they are aghast at every small criticism of Biden, it has steadily progressed from mildly entertaining to just plain tiresome.
![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to quickesst (Reply #72)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 01:15 AM
Cha (283,895 posts)
73. Exactly, quickesst! Biden's just
verifying what the polls say.. and they do show Biden as the one who beats trump with the most % points!
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to Cha (Reply #73)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 03:13 AM
quickesst (6,247 posts)
75. yeah Cha
I think some people believe they can take Joe Biden down by inflicting a thousand cuts. The problem is they are trying to do it using a butter knife.
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to quickesst (Reply #75)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 03:18 AM
Cha (283,895 posts)
76. Yeah, I've noticed that..
so excited.. here's another cut! But, it doesn't quite do the trick.. too dull.
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 05:42 AM
elocs (21,748 posts)
77. BIDEN: "Well, I think almost anybody" (could beat Trump).
Why??? Why would he ever say that?
Yes, the mouth is faster than the brain. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to elocs (Reply #77)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 10:50 AM
HeartlandProgressive (294 posts)
85. In the long run, it is always better to tell the truth
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to HeartlandProgressive (Reply #85)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 11:27 AM
elocs (21,748 posts)
88. Nope, that kind of talk leads to complacency such as,
"Why should I vote if anybody is going to beat Trump?"
Choosing not to speak a truth does not mean you are lying, and every truth does not need to be told. ![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 05:44 AM
marlakay (10,537 posts)
78. I really admire and like Joe
He’s not my number one because I tend to lean more left on a few issues than him but I would be proud to vote for him if he makes it.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Undecided |
Response to marlakay (Reply #78)
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Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 04:36 PM
colsohlibgal (5,259 posts)
90. He Is Almost Certainly Correct
Lawrence O’Donnell has had Rachel Bitcofer on several times lately. She correctly called the Blue Wave in 2018 almost perfectly. She says her data shows that any of the top 5/6 dem contenders will crush Putin’s Cuddly Toy Donnie, that the vote is more anti Trump than pro any candidate.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |
Response to BeyondGeography (Original post)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 04:42 PM
andym (5,250 posts)
92. With this statement Joe Biden reaffirms that he is authentic
Some politicians only state that which they think will help them win. Joe Biden is honest and does not self-aggrandize. It is very endearing. I would be very happy if he is elected President-- he will do much to repair the damage Trump has inflicted on America's culture. It also goes without saying that Joe is running because he believes he will be the best possible President.
![]() primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden |