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Biden campaign says Iowa is not a must-win state
Joe Bidens campaign on Tuesday said Iowa is not a must-win state on the former vice presidents path to the Democratic presidential nomination and signaled that the campaign is already ramping up its Super Tuesday efforts.
Do I think we have to win Iowa? No, a senior adviser told campaign reporters Tuesday in a background briefing. The adviser said Iowa, which holds the first nominating contest in the nation, will be critical.
We think were going to win. We think its going to be a dogfight. But we think there are several candidates in this field, theres probably three or four, that are going to go awhile.
Specifically, Bidens campaign mentioned Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, California Sen. Kamala Harris, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker and Pete Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Indiana.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)There's more to the process than Iowa. Super Tuesday will be quite important, particularly with the changes for 2020.
This is also about the fourth time this has been posted in the past few hours. Perhaps you could comment on one of the others instead of posting your own.
in ALL CAPS!!!
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emmaverybo
(8,148 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,837 posts)Remember when Jeff Sessions was criticized for scapegoating immigrants in his remarks criticizing DACA:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/speech/attorney-general-sessions-delivers-remarks-daca
In other words, the executive branch, through DACA, deliberately sought to achieve what the legislative branch specifically refused to authorize on multiple occasions. Such an open-ended circumvention of immigration laws was an unconstitutional exercise of authority by the Executive Branch.
The effect of this unilateral executive amnesty, among other things, contributed to a surge of unaccompanied minors on the southern border that yielded terrible humanitarian consequences. It also denied jobs to hundreds of thousands of Americans by allowing those same jobs to go to illegal aliens.
Well, you have to wonder how is that different from the views of Bernie Sanders and right wing Iowa conservative Chuck Grassley who also blamed immigrants lost jobs and lower wages:
https://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/bernie-sanders-and-immigration-its-complicated-119190
Back then, the Vermont independent warned that the immigration bill a product from then-Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) and Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) would drive down wages for lower-income workers, an argument thats been used by hard-liner reform opponents. He paired with conservative Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) on a restrictive immigration amendment. And Sanders backed provisions characterized as poison pills to unravel the bill, while voting to block the final measure in June 2007.
Sanders history on immigration that year is complicated. But his overall record has come under renewed attention after criticism that the senator was being too quiet on the issue during his long-shot campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination.
You have to keep in mind that Steve King has cruised to victory in Iowa for years by preaching hate, and you have both Steve King and Chuck Grassley seeing eye to eye with Bernie on immigration.
To me this is the downside of Iowa going first. It encourages Democratic candidates to cater to views that are very conservative if not racist, particularly on the subject of immigration. It is no accident that Bernie has been pushing the same "open borders" boogie man as Trump during this campaign even though no candidate supports open borders.
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George II
(67,782 posts)Bwahahahahaha!!!
PS - I guess fourth time is a charm...
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LonePirate
(14,367 posts)It is very, very difficult to win the nomination without winning IA or NH. If he is throwing in the towel in IA, that makes NH pretty much a must win state for him against NH neighbors Sanders and Warren.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)That doesn't sound like throwing in the towel, frankly. Context is important.
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highplainsdem
(62,137 posts)But the polling we've seen so far indicates it will be close. The same is true for NH.
They're not "throwing in the towel." If you'd try reading the full article, it makes it clear they know this primary race won't be won in the first states.
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LonePirate
(14,367 posts)If the campaign is saying those things publicly, then internally they are worried.
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highplainsdem
(62,137 posts)The polls wouldn't back up any such claim.
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TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)I think you're reading too much into the statement and ignoring its context. You're not the only one, however.
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brush
(61,033 posts)Many more delegates up for grabs on those two dates and Biden will clean up. Iowa and NH aren't that important anymore as Biden doesn't need to win them to get funding as he has enough to get through to the primaries with many more delegates. He'll pick up delegates in both and move on to SC and Super Tuesday where there are demographics more representative of the national party constituency than mostly white Iowa and New Hampshire. The African American and other POC voters will come out for him.
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Joe941
(2,848 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SergeStorms
(20,591 posts)So what's the story here?
Are you saying Iowa's caucus outweighs California's primary for some reason? Iowa is more a popularity contest than anything else, and assigning it undue gravity is preposterous. It's long past-time to mix the primary order up and stop making like Iowa is the crown jewel in the tiara.
Sorry, Iowans. Just my opinion.
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myohmy2
(3,721 posts)"...Iowa is not a must-win state..."
Do I think we have to win Iowa? No,
...lowering expectations?
...not a good sign...
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Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)I notice the reflexive attack on Bernie is present. He wasn't even a part of the topic, except as a Democratic contender. I can only imagine what would happen if someone posted something like that about Biden.
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floppyboo
(2,461 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(179,847 posts)Link to tweet
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