The Ground Has Shifted

I think who leads the ticket is up in the air at this time.

We shall see.

Biden is our best candidate to win the Electoral College and beat trump. Biden has wide support. trump does not want to run against Biden. I don't see Warren as VP. She is more needed in the Senate and she does that job well. I see Biden running with a strong, progressive, Dem woman. They would make a winning team. Beating trump is all that matters.

He writes well and is politically astute. As I read the op-ed, I found myself shaking my head. And I can well imagine the readership comments because the community is liberal to very liberal. Biden is gauged--by and large--at the site as being far too moderate and old school. I don't agree with that assessment; I see Biden as a pragmatic liberal. With years of experience, he understands how the legislative system works--its strengths and limitations.

But then, as Marshall states, the reality on the ground is reflected in the polling. It is what it is, aka Biden Reality.

lean more left than the country on DU. They don't like being told this either. We have to win the Electoral College to beat trump. That means state by state. We have to win the middle voters. I wish those more left would understand how to win elections. You have to win the most votes. You have to appeal to a wide variety of voters. You have to win the middle.

put forth against Biden, they just like starting a fight. A very wise soothsayer has repeatedly told us "the polls are what the polls are".

You would think it would be the other way around but we had once talked about how great it would be if they were running mates.. but now I understand that can never happen because of the underlying ageism that has crept into our discord (both over 70).. even on the debate stage.. but so be it.. it is what it is.. but I think that the final will come down to the two of them..

My husband and I are on the same page with our support of Joe Biden. That being said, if Warren were to take the nomination, we'd both vote for her. My only criticism of Warren is that I'm simply not convinced she can take down Donald Trump, that her reach and appeal simply isn't wide enough to pull in the numbers we'll need to clobber the Republicans and fully repudiate Trump and Trumpism.

We shall see!

I see him on twitter standing up for reality a lot.

I'm not surprised by this "Biden Realism" piece.. and very much appreciate it.


Thank you!

Breath of fresh air, I'd say.

I believe Josh hold History degrees and I think that infuses his view of life and politics. One which I rarely disagree with. His points here on Biden are spot on. Biden fares very well as the 1st or 2nd choice of the other candidates. That's indicative of his broad appeal within the party.

If you do twitter Josh's a must follow. People who are unfamiliar with his style sometimes miss the keen sense of irony or sarcasm.

I'm a prime member at TPM because I really enjoy Josh Marshall's slant and knowledgable approach. And the WAR discussions (all things Trump/Mueller related) in The Hive kept me half-way sane over the last 3 years. For the most part the discussions on various topics are lively, well-reasoned and offer a perspective from a variety of backgrounds and points of view.

Good stuff! DU and TPM are my first stops in the morning.